Topic: it seems permethrin is not killing ticks the way it used to
lpkayak
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Around my house anyway. The mild winter we had in New England has led to warnings about high numbers of ticks. I am usually able to keep ticks off my dog by spraying a tiny bit on her belly and legs and bed once or twice a month inthe summer. I have found two aattached ticksin the last few days. Im really upset about this second one because she had been sprayedand her bed had been sprayed after the first one and she still got another. Also this one was very active and didnt seem to respond at all to permethrin i sprayed into plastic bag i put it in. This really creeps me out because i really felt like i could keep us safe from ticks and now i really dont know. She rarely goes out, is mostly on patios and until the last few days i have never found a tick in my yard since i moved here 3 yrs ago. How is everyone else handling this now? Ty.
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hiker53
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What brand do you use? I wonder if that makes a difference. I always use Sawyer, but I only spray my clothes. Haven't tested it in a tick infested area, yet.
Scary.
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I wonder if you could have someone come and spray your yard? I would freak out if someone came near me with chemicals, but maybe you can handle it?
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lpkayak
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Tutu...i have a company cuz of the mice...they have been gone for awhile but im afraid to stop the company. The first they had to deal with carpenter ants and occasionally bee nests. But i really dont want to ask for more chemical s if i dont have to. The smallest amount on my boots/shoes and on the schnauzers belly and feet every two weeks kept our yards and pastures without ticks for all these years...i hope the ticks arent immune or resistant
Hiker...i just buy spray bottles for horses at the feed stor. The brand changes. They have all worked all these yrs. Its a lot cheaper that way.
Im going to try and contact tom grier and see what he thinks
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Tincup
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Maybe it is the current "brand" you are using? Not as good as others? I wouldn't give up on spraying. I'd also take other measures to get rid of the ticks like "Creating a Safe Zone". (See link below.)
And I wouldn't think the ticks could suddenly be resistant. There are no studies indicating this can happen.
And I personally would call in the expert sprayers. They only spray a few times a year and when I've done it myself it has lasted a couple of years.
Only have them spray the most "used" areas.
In MY opinion, it is better having chemicals on the lawn here and there instead of getting one or more diseases (again) that could kill you.
Also spraying the lawn is better than putting chemicals (drugs) INSIDE you for the rest of your life to prevent your own death from tick diseases.
lpkayak
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Im not sure whst im ginna d. The dog was on the patio...not the grass. She hardly goes out. Five min here or there.
Last year i did see a robin on the patio that eas infested with ticks. I dont have many birds but neighbors do. Maybe they fell off.
This spray has got to be good i boght it late lastfall sometimes a bottle lasts 3 yrs
Thanks for reply tin...you saved me from researching if ticks are becoming resistant. Also the last time i tried to have a tick tested they laughrd at me and there was a time it cost hundreds of dollars so if thats not the case nowi have 3 ones a yr old. All died from permethrin eventually. I wonder if that matters. I ll check link when i get to computer. Thanks
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lpkayak
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Ps. Ok i can send ticks out tomorrow. TIN...my friend. Really great site and info. I kept up with your work years ago but have gotten lazy. Im excited to get results...dog went on tx when i removed second tick
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I used to bowhunt ,out in the woods all the time. Sawyers for me has been a super product .
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Although I abhor having to do it from an environmental perspective, for the sake of my family, I treat my woodsy yard edge for ticks, because they were everywhere. I talked with reps at doityourselfpestcontrol.com . They recommended a combo of Talstar (for immediate kill) and Archer (which is a juvenile hormone mimic that interrupts the tick life cycle). This has worked well on my property...no ticks for 6 years, and a huge weight off my shoulders. Although I still make my kids dress for tick prevention and spray their exposed areas.
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Tincup
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kayak, will be anxious to hear your results. Please lettuce no!
norcal- great to hear that news. Bowhunters do have a lot more risk than most, so it is nice to know you are using Sawyers.
At night when I didn't have much to do- I mean when all my boy friends were already committed to performing at big concerts and royal events and stuff...
I'd look up hunt clubs, find an email and send them info on Lyme and prevention measures geared towards hunters. I use to get back some very nice emails by doing so.
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