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randibear
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my doc keeps insisting i go on zocor. I ain't doing it.

are there alternatives that won't make me sick. I triedc cholestoff, red yeast rice, even niacin.

after a few months I got muscle pain, twitches, etc.

I read where some alternatives are used to make statins. so wouldn't these naturals have the same side effects?

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First focus: a diet nearly as free as possible of TRANS fats. And one that includes healthy forms of cholesterol in balance with all the good fatty acids.

Liver support; adrenal support. and directly & assertively addressing TBD as they can be the reason for off kilter cholesterol in the first place .

Be cautious about any supplement that claims to be a "statin alternative" for the very notion that we need that action in the first place is in question.

yes, there are some specific nutrients or herbal supplements that can be of good help here - after we stop seeing cholesterol as the enemy. It is not. Yet, there is a bit of reading to go through first.

One point is that cholesterol is not the problem as much as the pharmaceutical world paints it to be - or in the ways they make us think.

Another point - those with lyme have liver dysfunction and adrenal dysfunction. It just always goes with lyme, TBD, etc. And those dysfunctions will play havoc with cholesterol.

The two links below are not about lyme, but my han ds are so numb now and it;' a plc to strt

You might start with the work of Stephen Sinatra, MD. I think you said in previous threads on this topic that you have at least one of his books.

Also, do a site search for "cholesterol" at www.mercola.com - he has many excellent articles there.
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/20/cholesterol-myths.aspx

Cholesterol Myths You Need to Stop Believing

By Dr. Joseph Mercola - April 20, 2016


http://www.mercola.com/infographics/cholesterol-levels.htm

How to Make Sense of Your Cholesterol Levels

Excerpt:

. . . But did you know that high cholesterol is not necessarily a precursor to poor health nor is it an indicator of heart disease?

In my years of practice, I have seen people whose total cholesterol levels were over 250 but had a low risk of developing heart disease. I have also encountered patients who were highly at risk for heart disease despite low cholesterol levels (under 200).

Conventional doctors neglect to tell you the truth: your body NEEDS cholesterol. And there are far better indicators of your heart health than just your total cholesterol level.

Back to Basics: What is the Purpose of Cholesterol? . . .
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Policosanol is a possibility.

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https://www.verywell.com/non-prescription-cholesterol-lowering-policosanol-1745256

http://my-cholesterol-blog.com/policosanol/index.php

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Thanks for posting about CholesLo, TuTu. This actually looks like a very nice balanced formula that supports the body in various ways & it's not going to force unnatural actions.

Good that it is "additive and filler free" and that it "Does NOT Contain Any: Artificial colors, wheat, gluten, dairy, egg, fish, soy, peanuts."

By scrolling all the way down, there are individual tabs with more detail about each ingredient.

http://www.choleslo.com/lp/lower-your-cholesterol_OG-lp.php

CholesLo™ - official website
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But I don't get the math on that. Wouldn't four pills a day = 120 capsules for 30-day supply? I know number just jumble for me but my eyes or brain just can't reconcile this. ??

They state:

• Supplement Facts: 80 capsules; 30-day supply.

• Instructions: Take 2 pills, 2x daily with water.
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Cut sugar. Your body can process fat if there is no sugar in the diet other than what is naturally occurring in fruit/dairy.

My LLMD believes it and I'm proof of it. Latest research also supports. 85% of products in the grocery store have added sugar.

Low fat Stonyfield blueberry yogurt has more added sugar than a can of coke.

Stop eating sugar, start eating fat, and your cholesterol will be fine!

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quote:
Originally posted by bcb1200:

Stop eating sugar, start eating fat, and your cholesterol will be fine!

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A nurse practitioner I went to was insistent that I take Lipitor or something like it. This may be the top bestseller for big pharma.

At any rate, I have been listening to some health summits and on one of them, they were discussing cholesterol. There were a lot of health care professionals speaking and they all said that cholesterol is not an issue, but rather it is blood sugar.

Also, when my lyme doc looked at my test which showed high triglycerides, she said that you can eat a piece of cheese a week prior and it would effect the test.

All I had to do to decide on the issue was to look at lipitor side effects on the internet.

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