WPinVA
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Got Lyme 5 years ago, and after a really hard time with it, now I'm off antibiotics, I have been doing pretty well and I am trying to focus on candida. I'm not 100% but decent enough to be very thankful.
Two weeks ago, I got a flu-like illness. Flu test negative. Lasted 5 days, then recovered. Since then, back to pretty much ok, maybe a little more tired.
Saw LLMD today. He said that my flu-like illness is very suspicious for a new Lyme infection. However, I did kick it in 5 days. So it's hard to tell.
We talked about whether or not to put me back on antibiotics. During the appt, we decided not to but I've been thinking about it since then, and thinking I should go back on. I don't want to take any chances!!
So Lymenet, what do you think? Should I go back on abx? Which one(s) and for how long?
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bluelyme
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Try rife or bvt . .its painfully fun..go herbal to cover your bases ...hypocritically ppondering as i get ready to juice the rocephin...but doing previously mentioned modalities also...have you treated parasites ? Its fun too
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Jordana
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Personally I would do it. You only have a limited amount of time to hit a new infection.
You and I both know there's no such thing as a summer flu.
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I would never do that preventative. Too dangerous, in my opinion.
I find that the antibiotic even sometimes WAKE infections.
For example: for low grade infections, the body is putting all energy it has to try to fight them.
Then you take antibiotics, thinking you will help your body.
But you do no help for the immune system, because:
- you knock down good bacteria (which helps your immunity),
- you make a mess for digestion (nutrition is less well absorbed, so lower immunity)
- you add toxic chemicals from abx that need to be taken care of (fatigue, detox organs are loaded, lymph gets loaded...)
- you increase food allergies, with that, then inflammation.
- with inflammation, your body gets weaker to fight infections (just see how people with pollen allergies, or nose allergies get much easily lung infections...)
- you help creating abx resistance for all other pathogens that react to that abx in yourself, and in the people around you.
---------------- You take the abx, then stop it.
If the infection is still there, it may come back IN REVENGE! Now the terrain is clearer, your immunity is weaker, you are busy trying to get rid of toxins, to get proper nutrition inside your body, to fight inflammation...
Have you ever got that experience? I had that with urinary infections. Either it knocks it down completely, or it just comes back with much more resilience.
Attack the pathogen with abx, if it works partly but not totally, you think you are getting better, then when you stop it, it's like your body is knocked by the same infection that was low grade, but now it is in rage!
I don't know: I see really no positive point in using abx if you are not in real trouble.
Even my own lyme disease. I wonder today if it didn't START BECAUSE of doxy.
But that's a long story. I just say that, because some people with EM rash (like I had) in fact do not develop a full lyme disease their whole lives.
I didn't have any lyme symptoms (except the rash) until I took doxy. Then my hell started.
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well - you could be right - probably are for you - we often "know" things for our own bodies through observations we don't even register
but just to add another data point
I had the EM rash, too, and everything was fine for a while
no doxy
and then it got really bad
so it can happen that way, too
another fun anecdote: we had an infestation of lady bugs - probably because of farmers using them as natural insect killer and releasing them in 1000s
there were hundreds at every window in our house - inside
the neighbors had the same problem
they told us that they sprayed (they had small children they tried to protect from insects in the house) and were proud to report that the lady bugs were gone in 2 weeks
only our lady bugs were also gone in two weeks - they just naturally died in that time period - and we did nothing to them at all
I am sorry this is so hard for everyone
we really need good science to first **believe** the patients and then do good work to uncover what is going on
I would take herbs ASAP after an incident like this - personally - because I have quick access to the herbs and I know which ones have worked for me in the past
if abx is the only thing you have access to or are familiar with, you may want to take them for 4 weeks at least, if you feel like your body can handle that
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Catgirl
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Been there, done that. I got bit again, tried abx and they didn't work for me, they just caused more damaged and the bugs adapted.
Follow your gut though. If they worked well for you before, then take them. If you're even the tiniest bit leery though, that's your inner voice telling you to try something else.
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I would have to be sick for more than 5 days to guess reinfection and go back on atbx.
Theres a price to pay for atbx(physically).
Wait a little longer to see what develops or doesn't develop.
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hiker53
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I personally will never do antibiotics again unless I got something like MRSA. Totally trashed my body.
Yet, when I saw a friend with a Lyme like rash the other day, I immediately told her to go to the MD and get some doxy. Go figure.
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TF
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If you have a great lyme doctor, and if you talked with him about the situation for a full half-hour appointment, then go with the conclusion he came to.
About 10 days ago, I lost all energy starting on a Friday evening. I spent all Saturday and Sunday sleeping, mostly in bed! On Monday, I had just about half of my normal energy. Over the next 2 days, I slowly got back to normal.
From what I can gather, there was "something" going around at that time. You are not far from me. So, if this description matches what went on with you, I really believe some type of illness was going around. This is how it manifested. My husband was also affected, but not as bad as me.
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WPinVA
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Thank you so much to everyone who weighed in. This is not an easy call. I think if I had herbs handy and knew I could handle them, I'd be more likely to do that. But I don't - need to order them and wait for them to be shipped - and the doxy is right here.
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TF
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Stay out of the sun then.
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