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Harmony
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Hi,

I know there is a Rife thread and have looked at it.

I am not worried about which machine or frequency right now.

Just wondering if some of the more experienced forum members would be so very kind and let me know a 30 sec summary of what they have heard people post - does the emf work to get better? or not?

I have been struggling for 20 years and got lots of neuro-stuff going on now and my heart feels at the end - BP extremely low - feeling like this may take me soon

does Rife/emf present hope or is it just another torture trip and expense with no results?

I have done conventional docs, LLMDs, herbs, clean diet and sheer will power and my body is at the end, I feel

I got a rife machine now, but I would really appreciate your wisdom and knowledge on the topic - it is such a lonely and crazy and desperate situation with Lyme for those who have it

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Hi Harmony,

You might want to take a look at this book for inspiration: https://www.amazon.com/Second-Chance-Beat-Chronic-Disease-ebook/dp/B0160IPQN6/

The author tried nearly every treatment without success, but was able to recover using Rife.

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Thank you, project.

Very kind of you to take the time to respond - I do appreciate it - as all of us, I look for replies and hope to find one when I posted something and I appreciate any effort from someone out there to help me, truly

having said that, the link does not inspire me too much - not to sound too critical, but I was hoping for some evidence from someone who is not trying to sell something, like a scientist or the very kind moderators and long-time standing members of this forum, who may have observed a pattern in the anecdotes they reviewed, for example

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Well the point is that her story was inspiring to me. I've actually corresponded with the author and she said she's spent $1200 on self publishing fees vs making less than $100 on the book. So she's trying to help share information not make money by selling a 99 cent ebook.

There are a lot of anecdotal stories out there. Check out the Rifing Lyme facebook group which is pretty active and has a lot of good info.

I've been using Rife for about a year and have made progress. The herxes have been brutal though. Financial cost aside, the pain required to recover from this illness almost makes it seem not worth it to me.

I don't want to be discouraging but the question people should be asking themselves is how much do they really value life? Would I be willing to work in a Siberian gulag for 10 years in order enter a lottery to have a 30% chance of receiving another 20-30 years of decent quality life after that? Probably not, and this is essentially what the cost of recovering from Lyme is like.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.

Essential to rife treatment, to help calm the herxheimer reaction.

Also remember that to treat lyme, only every 12 days and work up to the time / frequencies that are not too much of a strain.

Other things can be addressed by rife during the breaks in the only every 12-day plan for lyme approach. To treat lyme more often than that can really cause harm to kidneys.

Start out slowly, work up to what is comfortable, as best one can determined in advance (sometimes, of course, even the best thought out timing can clobber, though).
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Harmony
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Hi project - I really did not mean to say that your post or even the book are not 100% accurate and made with good intentions - I guess I am just a bit low right now and not looking forward to another round of God-knows-what without any hope of coming out better

I agree with you - it has been a long, long road for me already, too, and I think what bothers me most is the inability to make plans - for a cure, for life, for the next day -

I have so many chores and I am almost like a child that way - maybe it is good - I keep on saying that I will do this and this and this tomorrow and none of it gets done, often

instead I lie in bed - or it takes me all day just to feed the animals and make some food for us

and I think: tomorrow!

I have been through all the insults, the pain, the fear, the support group, the LLMD, the herbs, and just have doubts about this rife idea now

Am I just doomed to die? I am not even mad at doctors, insurance companies, or anyone else anymore - they got God to answer for their Hippocratic oath and their arrogance and their ill-gotten riches - I forgive them for they know not what they do

there - if Jesus can forgive us, I can do the same

it makes no sense to me to be mad anymore - maybe I say this because I really am close to dying and I release this world - it has got nothing more to do with me

but there is maybe the hope that rife will give me my life back? I would just like to understand it a little better before I hope that - how can radio frequency emf kill anything?

sound waves are mechanical waves and mechanical waves can set up resonances and shatter something that swings further and further out of shape - a glass, a bridge, etc.

but emf is electro-magnetic and only ionizing radiation can cause damage to atoms, molecules and living beings

I never heard of low frequency radio waves to do anything but go right through matter

maybe if I could repeat one of Dr. Rife's experiments with a germ I can see under my microscope, that would help

alternatively, I am seeking the empirical experience of others - I am not so arrogant to think I know everything and anything I don't understand can't exist

sorry - I just reacted negatively to the "I'll sell you a book with my experience" idea - not saying it is not kind or genuine, I was just looking for something very strictly free of conflict of interest, just to be sure

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Hi Keebler,

do have experience with the rife method or know of others who have done it and gotten results?

if so, what results? what do you observe as the results that most people get?

any time you can take to explain is much appreciated!

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Its helping slowly...there is video evidence with anthony holland..project and i are having progress attacking proto..i do think it has to be plasma rife to actually kill microbes

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Harmony,

the discussion thread here - and Rosner's book - will answer many of your questions. Good luck.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117755;p=0

RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS
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Thanks, bluelyme - I'll look into those.

Hi Keebler, I've seen the thread and have the book - was just wondering about our forum members' experiences. but thanks!

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Harmony,

I have an EMEM5 rife but have not really started using it yet. I hope you find what you need for both decision and solution.
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I used a Rife machine AFTER I was well. I used to keep me well. It worked. I used it for probably 8 years, then I got slack with it.

With an investment of about $500 for the EMEM5A, I think it's worth a try.

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Thank you Keebler and Lymetoo ( I love your ballerina smilies - they have me smile when I see them and I know it's you =])

I will start the rife soon - just need to figure out the detox first, in case it works - any advice there?

I have the MTHFR gene defect - only one, not two, but I am a bit challenged there

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I too have trouble detoxing ...i am using bw detox ,epson salts baths , ir sauna , sparga ,burber, methycobalimn support and lots of fiber

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My wife is not cured, but well 95% of the time. Joint pain will come now and then and I treat her and she if fine for months.

I use frequency treatments for my Crohn's disease. It is keeping me normal. The medications did not do that for me. I had to find the pathogens involved which was a slow process

It's for real but of course it will only damage the pathogens you target so knowing what all is involved is pretty important.

I would make sure you use these frequencies for Lyme in addition to any others you use. I only run the first and the last one, but 432 works for many people, just not my wife. May be a different strain. Who knows?

2016, 432, 840.6.

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I, myself, would be nervous to use electric based instruments if I had a weak heart.

I have a PEMF (pulsed emf) mat and it did not get

rid of lyme but the rife does help.

If one uses PEMF, it is good to take magnesium

first.

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My wife is not cured, but well 95% of the time. Joint pain will come now and then and I treat her and she if fine for months.

I use frequency treatments for my Crohn's disease. It is keeping me normal. The medications did not do that for me. I had to find the pathogens involved which was a slow process

It's for real but of course it will only damage the pathogens you target so knowing what all is involved is pretty important.

I would make sure you use these frequencies for Lyme in addition to any others you use. I only run the first and the last one, but 432 works for many people, just not my wife. May be a different strain. Who knows?

2016, 432, 840.6.

Dan

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Dan, thanks! Good to hear it seems to be working for you.

I will try it!

Thanks also for your frequencies - you are right, there are so many strains

lookup, I am not sure, but I think the heart uses different electrical signals than the radio waves - and we are exposed to so much emf daily

I will have to look into it, but I don't think there is a current running through the body when you use the rife-like machines, just emf waves - they are photons or light waves - current is electrons and affects matter (tissues, muscles) differently, I think

blue, thanks for he detox suggestions - can't have enough of those - I have been using activated charcoal (not every day - only every so often) and Zeolite

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Bart treatment affected my wife's heart temporarily. Bad enough we went to the emergency room as heart disease is common in her family. Everything checked out fine, but all the symptoms were there until the Bart was reduced.

Magnesium is critically important for the heart in particular.

Be careful and go slow with any frequency treatment or any other treatment for that matter, especially for Bart.

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Thank you, Dan

good to know that her hospital visit was also showing normal fidings

I had an abnormal EKG at the hospital but the cardiologist could not find anything on his exam

it drives you crazy, because you feel like the end is near and nothing shows on tests - well, not the tests they run (see my car analogy of having Lyme in the General Support)

what Bart frequencies did you use?

I know there are many kinds of "BLO" Bartonella Like Organisms, but it may help to try the ones that worked for others

Thanks again

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Dan how often did you rife for bart? And is dna fequencys pretty accurate as far as pathogens?

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Harmony good luck. Im glad you got some good advice. I have an expensive rife machine but cant use it because even very small amount knocks me out for days and then i cant take care of myself. My machine is different than most that are used here so i would just say go slow and really hope it works for you

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Is anyone familiar with the Spooky2 Rife Machine, and if so, how would you rate its effectiveness?
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Using spooky 2 with plasma ...it has many more features and options good compilation of frequencies. ..yoh can do custom...it is a good machine not quite as much juice as the gb4000 mopa ..but very good ..it has helped knock bart down quite a bit .....the harmonics are powerful ..vey customizable ..going to try microscopy next week with it ...little bit of a learning curve ...very prompt delivery ..little off gassing from plastic ...conrent so far was thinking of getting back up bulb ..is good for 8800 hrs

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My hubby uses rife. He started out rifing for Babesia and felt better almost immediately.

He had more bab symptoms than lyme symptoms.

He uses it for headaches, adrenal support, when his gut is unhappy, and when his muscles are tight.

The muscles-to-relax freqs are ones I've used also and can say it really does make a difference!! My neck and shoulders were so tight and after rifing, I could freely turn my head.

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MannaMe - I missed it - is it in the thread? - what are the muscle-to-relax freq?

Thank you, All!

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