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Does anyone have thoughts on Lamb pituitary supplements to help heal HPA.
I had a holistic dr. put me on it before I knew I had lyme. It seemed to help with hormones, but I'm not sure about how it would be with Lyme. Any thoughts?
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- Along WITH addressing lyme and other TBD assertively . . .
Makes sense and I'd feel better about this than a bovine source. Just find out exactly where the sheep are raised, treated, etc. Free range, organically raised, etc. and no time in feed lots at the end of their life is best.
Likely the company will have all that detail.
The bottom line, after researching the source, though - is if this is right for your body at this time?
Is this a very much LL doctor? This matters so very much. Lyme changes everything about how the endocrine system works. Everything.
That is absolutely vital as someone with lyme will most likely not respond / react to what's called "glandulars" in the same manner as someone without lyme.
And, usually pituitary glandulars are not given alone but also with others that address the full HPA-axis, a "triangle" of major stress for those with lyme.
H = Hypothalamus P = Pituitary A = Adrenal
axis - a network of sorts. These endocrine organs all work together. If one is kaput, the others can go haywire, too.
You might want to start off with some of the key adrenal support herbs such as Ashwagandha, Cordceps, Siberian Ginseng, and then add Rhodiola gradually.
Then, if you need more adrenal support, consider glandulars. -
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- How I missed the chronology of this, well, now my eyes see that this was in the past that you took these BEFORE you knew you had lyme.
If you got a sense before that they helped you feel better, great. Then your body likely responds well and it might be something else to consider now as part of your adrenal support plan.
You ask how this could help with lyme? Adrenal support is REQUIRED with lyme. That's how it helps, for better explanations see the "Heal Hormones" link in the set above by Connie S.
With glandulars, though, the idea is not to supply too much but just enough so the organs are not having to push and push beyond their capabilities with an illness on board. You want to be mindful to not go too high so that they organs would not be able to then work on their own later on.
On the other hand, they need to be give enough, too. It's a fine line.
Usually, I've been able to tell when a glandular is just too high in dose as I'd get jittery and just feeling unwell. But, then, I did not have a very good response to bovine glandulars at all, even at low dose.
Best to have a LL naturopathic doctor assess / test along the way to be sure all is on track, if at all possible. -
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Thanks Keebler. I know my HPA axis is messed up, so just trying to think of a few options.
The Dr. was not LL. So that's why I was checking on here for thoughts.
I think if I could support the HPA axis, I just might sleep better too.
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- Indeed - should help with being able to settle down at night and rest - as long as the support methods are not too "boosting" in nature.
Good luck with your reading. Burrascano starts with Cordyceps & Siberian Ginseng (Eleuthero). His link to that excerpt is in the Adrenal thread.
The Adrenal book by Wilson is also a good start. It's also in the Interlibrary loan system if cost is a factor.
If you have a LLMD, talk to them about this, of course. And ask around at your various lyme support groups about those who have benefitted from endocrine support and inquire as to who is guiding them.
If you do start back on sheep glandulars (after checking to be sure they were "happy campers" so to speak) start slow and low.
Oh, and Buhner's books, too, are a great source on this matter.
Still, be sure your lyme / TBD / chronic stealth infection approach is all it should be (as best you can obtain). For until the infections are taken out of the picture, they will always stress the HPA-axis.
And, I think the gut flora also matters. -
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I don't know anything about the lamb pituitary glandular, but want to report that I have been treating my brain with natural anti-inflamatories, as a brain marker has dropped continously in bloodtests.
I had high prolactin, a pituitary hormone. It's now come down from an off-the-charts 220 number to in the 40s, which is almost normal range, which is around 20.
At the time, way back when, I had brain surgery and the surgeon couldn't find any pit tumor and declared me a medical mystery. When I found out it was Lyme, I emailed him!
I've been doing natural anti-inflams for the past 5 years. My major one is turmeric, followed by mangosteen juice.
I get turmeric in bulk at the health food store and dip 00-size capsules into it and take them throughout the day.
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- Excellent point, Robin. Addressing inflammation can help in so very many ways. Often, that's the most important mode of action, actually.
Fortunately, planet earth gives us lots of bright antioxidants like turmeric and mangosteen (and so many others) to help us in this action. -
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Keebler, thank you for the reading direction. I'll check into those. I will bring up a lot of this with my LLMD next time.
I wish I also had a LLND to monitor the 'natural' part of supporting what's broken. hmmm. Have to think about that.
Robin, I take a bit of turmeric, but I don't think it's nearly enough.
I just take 1 or 2 capsules. I'm going to have to look into mangosteen juice. That's a new one for me.
Does anyone else feel like a walking pharmaceutical between antibiotics and natural supplements. HA HA.
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I like the Mango-Xan version, as it's the most tart of the mangosteen juice blends. Found in health food stores and online. Some drink Xango, the pure version, but it's too strong for me.
Yes, we are the new frontier folks for blended treatments! Also add energy treatments to that!
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