Been a while since I was here and I was doing relatively better. I was on Malarone and IV Zith + IV Zinacef + IV Flagyl (yes, I don't know how I survived it all but I did) last summer and I gave myself a break from the IV's and switched to a teenie tiny dose of Cryptolepsis in the late fall.
Now I'm trying to get back on Malarone + Biaxin and it's super tough and I feel completely drained without doing anything at all. Zero energy, can't go out, appts rare, etc. I've gone backwards.. help!! Any experiences out there would be grateful!!
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Catgirl
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Yes it can. Babs is tough to get rid of. My doc got rid of hers with IV treatment and artemisinin in just 3 weeks but she wasn't treating it long term. I think it's easier for some to get rid of it with the first treatment (newly diagnosed). After that it's much tougher.
The bug can adapt (just like lyme does), the person could have metylation problems or worse, proto (FL1953) which mimics babs. Proto protects all the bugs with biofilm. People who are not getting over babs should consider proto. Not treating it means nothing goes away.
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I don't think babesia is more resistant to treatment than bart or Bb.
I think many tick-born infections are hard to treat.
I found particularly difficult to treat babesia because it kept 'hiding'. Every time I found a good treatment, I crashed, took binders like hell to keep functional at least some hours a day, then I had to keep changing treatments until babs disappeared.
The problem was that it kept CHANGING symptoms. Before, I had clear babs symptoms: night sweats, hot flushes, low ferritin, whatever.
Then I attacked it with Riamet, 3-4 days, crashed badly with awful headaches, sweats, but I got better. So I thought. Then it came back again, but NEVER as clear as it was at first.
I tested it energetically, that is how I could keep track of it, because I never had again a total clear babesial infection (until the next infected tick bite...).
Babesia dislikes changes of treatments, and dislikes binders (because that is the main gun of babesia against us: toxins from die off!!!).
I could manage in both infections to treat it, but with quite some herbs. Riamet was the only drug I took, some artemisinin, then Artemisia annua, some Chinese herbs, cardamon, noni tincture, microcurrent with rife frequencies against babs.
It went away in both cases, but with a lot of work and changes of herbs.
Babesia returns too, when lyme gets too strong (in a bad relapse). But never too clear, in my case.
Keep treating, changing treatments and taking a lot of binders like MSM, chlorella, whatever you take. In a lot of amounts. Only massive doses of binders could make me feel almost like a normal person during babesia die off.
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Thank you Catgirl and Brussels, your responses were very helpful. It is very helpful to hear your experiences, Catgirl, sounds like your doc must have had a very mild case of Babesia? Art elevates my liver enzymes and makes me extremely weepy/depressed.
Brussels, I am so glad your Babesia improved significantly, you were definitely persistant! The Lyme returning actually did occur to me and I might bring it up with my LLMD when I meet with him next. Thank you for reminding me of that.
I might switch Mepron for Malarone though I find the former much more difficult w/ brutal herxes + so much more awful pain. Maybe I'll be lucky and add some Welchol...??
I really appreciated both your responses, so helpful and supportive. I'll report back soon. Thanks!
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