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Brussels
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This device became my favorite, for sure.

The cost is ridiculous: less than 50 dollars.

I guess that the most useful uses I found for it are:


1) it makes all liquids from glands and organs to be expelled. I use it as a hormone booster or enzymatic booster.

Ex1: on salivary glands, I can't keep saliva inside, they will pour in my mouth at the touch of the electrode (I use the thinnest electrode, like a pen format).

Ex2: on my GI tract, specially small intestine, I can see the movements on my belly skin, and hear it (it's literally, like gargling).

Ex3: on liver, gall bladder and spleen, I can also hear what's going on there: liquids being expelled. It takes just 1 or 2 minutes for that, with the strongest electrode (thinnest).

My liver has never been so well in the last decade. No more pressure, pain. I can take coffee almost any time of the day, usually, without getting anxious.

Dr. K. said that if you get anxiety after coffee, it is a sign that the liver is not working well.

In my case, I love strong coffee, and I stopped having anxiety, tummy ache, insomnia from coffee since I started on the violet ray.

Most people will notice their mouth gets dry with coil device treatments.

It is a sign showing that the water / liquids are moving away from places (cells, lymph, organs). At least, that is what I think...

It is also clear that my urine gets darker when I'm using it regularly. And that I feel dehydrated more than usual, so I need more water (with electrolytes is best).

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2) Open wounds or burnt skin : the violet ray undoubtedly helps healing the skin MUCH faster than any treatment I have (not even infrared can compare).

I apply directly to the wound (or through a cotton pad). It may be a bit painful, you can lower the potency then.

It usually works as a pain reliever (you got to treat for more than 5 minutes for that purpose).

I keep hurting myself with metals, because I'm building another net against electrosmog now, and in winter, my skin is dry.

I feel inflammation coming, local pain, until I do the violet ray. Then I close the wound with iodine in a plaster, and next day, it is healed or MUCH better.

It's an incredible pain relief for the skin.

I believe that in this case, the ozone disinfects the wounds better than any treatment.

The ozone won't work internally (I don't believe so...), but externally, you can smell it!

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3) the other main function of the violet ray is energy boosting.

No doubt about that either. When I don't use it for a couple of weeks, the 1st 10 minutes with the violet ray feel wonderful.

This energy is comparable to the energy I take from fresh food, or from breathing fresh air. It's very 'refreshing' as feeling. Really like charging myself in a plug!

When I use the violet ray often and I am not fighting any very active infection (like now), using the violet ray for 30-60 minutes a day will save me at least 1 hour of sleep in the night.

I need clearly less hours of sleep, wake up in good mood and refreshed. I've been using it for 2 years now, and I know it's not my imagination.

When infections are active is different (like candida). I can't see the difference, as my body is tired, fighting infections, so I need more sleep (with or without the violet ray).

But when I'm in good health, the violet ray adds energy and I can really see that in the number of hours I need to sleep.

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4) the other main function of the violet ray is detoxing.

for sure, the more I use it, the more I need chlorella and mineral supplementation (such as magnesium). I also need more alkaline salts (calcium, etc).

The body goes in detox probably because the liver / gall bladder is cleared and because the body has enough energy to go on detoxing.

I do feel I need more chlorella + bear garlic + minerals (sp magnesium) when I'm on the violet ray, or I get toxic symptoms (like tummy ache, loose stools, brain fog, fatigue, anxiety, liver pain comes back, etc).

Only using the violet ray won't help flushing these toxins completely away, in my experience.

Even if the urine gets much darker, which means I'm detoxing more through it, it is still not enough. I need extra binders.

Like with lyme, candida, only taking killers WON'T the solve the problem until I take binders and organ supportive stuff for as long as lyme / candida treatment lasts.

What's described in the literature is right: you need MORE nutrients (minerals) when on coil devices!

Probably because coil devices (rife, PEMF, violet ray, Tesla lamps etc) help boosting cellular activities, well, they consume nutrients for that!

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A last note: if someone wants to start on any coil device, go extremely slow in the first weeks!!!

the first thing this device did 2 years ago was to detox my nerves.

I had nerve pains the WHOLE body, specially around the spine, neck, but really, my whole body was in pain.

My theory is that nerves needed ions, which were given by the coils. Once laden with ions, they did what they had to, but couldn't: pushed neuro toxins away!

When they come out, it's very painful. Fortunately, it was just in the first months of use. These pains never returned.


This little device is the ONLY one I carry around when I travel. No other device!

This Xmas - year end, I only carried 2 things in my 'emergency kit': the violet ray and kimchi. [Razz]

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Do you think a violet ray device would help to cure Lyme Borrelia, Babesia or Bartonella? Also, could you take a look on Amazon's website and see if

any of their device would be comparable to the one that you use? Also, is it painful? Is there a downside to the treatment and is the treatment in any way dangerous?

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hmm. I wonder if this is similar to what my biological dentist used after I had amalagams removed and a new filling put in.

I HATE the dentist and always seem to have pain in the worked on tooth for months before my nerves decide to calm down and be happy.

My biological dentist used some sort of laser type thing and held it agains my jaw for about 1 minute.

I didn't have ANY pain from that procedure. Seriously, it was a miracle. I'm wondering if it is a similar type device. hmmm.

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Tulips, there is more than a simple device to cure chronic infections.

The violet ray is like food: will food cure lyme disease? Maybe, but not likely. At least, not too fast, I mean.

That is the one I will buy next when my own device breaks (as mine is too weak).
https://www.amazon.com/High-Frequency-Skin-Violet-Electrodes/dp/B00HGTVVC4

Mine is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DKHXRW2?psc=1

I don't recommend mine as some friends got some with defect... It's made in China. The upper one is from Ukraine.

Even eating certain foods may be dangerous. So...
Think of this device as a PEMF device. Or ionized water (to drink).

It acts similarly, I think. PEMF use similar coils, as well as Rife devices (to my understanding). Both are more powerful than the violet ray coils.

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HW88: it's not a laser.

It buzzes quite high, so if your device didn't buzz, it wasn't a violet ray.

It also feels like a mild shock, but it isn't a shock, like contact rife electrodes or micro current devices (such as TENS machine).

I prefer the feeling of the violet ray than TENS or contact rife (or any zapper). I dislike that kind of electricity, as it feels too aggressive to my body.

The violet ray felt aggressive because my body entered detox mode, quite violently, the first months. It's a bit like people drinking ionized water: they may also detox violently.

After a while, the major bunk of toxins left, and I felt fine.

My lyme doc uses a lot of lasers too. I had one, from dr. K (the green one), but used it only temporarily. Lasers feel too strong for me too.
My head gets 'high' and I can't stand long treatments.

I heard that blue or violet lasers are better though?

I can use the violet ray for 2 hours! The final effect feels a bit like grounding myself (laying on the grass).

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I do like running it on lymph and through amethyst or citrine crystals ...i think it stuns parasites also ..

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Oh. Interesting. I'll have to do some research. Thank you. I love learning all the different options.
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Bluelyme, great you are still doing the violet ray through the stones!

I do use it to fight viral infections. When I feel some sort of funny feeling in my throat, I zap it, and I usually get nothing.

I know it works for cold viruses pretty well.

My daughter also uses it against colds. I mean, she used to use it against colds, but it's been a while she doesn't get any cold (since being gluten-free).

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Ya directly on skin stuffs works good to . I wonder if it creates ozone in the blood ?
I am going to try different crystalline stones to see if effect is the same

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I don't know. I keep reading that ozone is made inside too, but I can't really believe it.

I lack biochemistry and physics knowledge to understand how this would be possible.

It is said that sparks from the electrode work like lightning. Those sparks create ozone, if I understood well.

The part of the electrode that directly touches the skin does not create ozone, only the other lateral parts do (I think).

If you look closely at the electrodes, you'll see they get very oily specially where it DOES NOT TOUCH the skin!

It's as though those sparks pushed oils from the body, and they attach to the electrodes.

the farther you arrive to have the electrodes and let them still spark, the more ozone it will be created, if I understood well.

so how can that happen INSIDE the body is for me a mystery. So I consider that they don't produce ozone internally. But I'm still open, if someone explains better.

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As for stones, I suspect different stones cause different effect.

Lately, I'm playing simply with river and lake stones (withOUT the violet ray).

I know they have some sort of 'energy', with or without voltage / electricity going through.

See the remarks of some people with the biomat, even when it's OFF!

And if you touch the stones, you'll know what I mean.

I have laden some river stones with fire (in my wooden oven). They get charged very strong with something I can't describe. Probably the fire makes them different.

I gave the warm stones to other people, and when they let them enough time on their skin, they all look like VERY relaxed, sleepy.

I thought it was the heat, but it's not: a hot bottle does not do that strong grounding effect as hot lake stones!

Try some black gems or stones with your violet ray: they usually help grounding too.

many people swear by quartz crystals, but I dislike their energy (too strong for me, it sorts of excite me instead of relax me, like the amethyst).

if you find something different in your experiments, let us know!!!

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I'm pulling this thread again to say I bought a new Violet Ray, from Novator / Korona, a Russian or Ukrainian device.

I actually prefer this new model than the Chinese one! It is stronger, better built.

I wrote it was bad, but it's because I totally missed the intensity control button.

All instruction come in Russian, so I haven^'t really tried to read the manual....

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With the years, the electrodes of the Chinese violet ray somehow lose a bit of power, but the Chinese devices are still working well.

I read recently in Amazon, that either you get a good one and it's good, or you get one with defect. It means, quality control is not very good, but I had bought 4 of them in total, all worked well.

I continue to use the violet ray for multi purpose, and I continue to enjoy it.

As I got so many tick bites recently, I'm zapping the bites with it too!

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Oh no, that is disappointing!! Which model did you get?

Mine just arrived today, I ordered the model 6 from Moldova. I am really hoping it will be better than the Chinese model! Hopefully the converter gets here in the next couple of days and then I'll be able to try it out and report back.

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https://www.amazon.com/High-Frequency-Skin-Violet-Electrodes/dp/B00HGTVVC4

that is the model I have (exact box etc). I think it's Russian (all instructions are in Russian!!)

Mine was about 70-80 dollars, but it is the same as this one.

Let me know about yours, when converter comes! Is it 220V or 110V?

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I have dug mine out recently and came here to refresh my memory on how or what exactly I should do with it.

I recently had a car accident and am really struggling to get better. I have lots of back, neck and shoulder pain. Should I treat these areas, and how long should I treat?

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And will it even help with muscle pain? I have been using it over my liver and stomach area. My blood sugar and blood pressure have been slightly elevated since the accident.

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guys, I will update the info on teh KORONA /KOPOHA.

It is NOT a weaker device: I missed the intensity control button!!

The button was built in, much more 'design' than the Chinese model, so I totally MISSED IT!¨

So the intensity is ACTUALLY STRONGER than the Chinese model!!

The only negative point is that it cannot be turned on and off, you got to unplug it to turn it off.

But it is STRONGER than the Chinese model!!! Sorry , I totally missed the intensity control button!!!
[bonk]

(I re-corrected my old post above!!!)

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Kidsgotlyme:

muscle pain: for me, almost nothing is as fast to relieve muscle pain! Yep.

Liver and stomach: try to use with empty stomach... Better than when it's full, I find.

Blood sugar, blood pressure: I would go into Vital Force Products. They have a liver / spleen / pancreas formula that is doing miracles to everyone I'm giving!!

Sorry to hear you got an accident...

Have you taken Arnica? Broken bones?? I hope not... [Frown]

for bigger injuries, I would get a Sota PEMF, not expensive, but it goes very deep, it seems!!

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Brussels A huge THANKS for the info. I will look into your recommendations. No broken bones.

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One more question, Brussels. I want to use the ray on my Dad's legs because he is having so much pain in them. He takes a lot of meds and has several cardiac stents. Is the ray still safe to use on him? He doesn't have a pace maker.

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I guess it's fine. So far I have heard only of problems to burn eletric devices.

The violet ray is not anymore sold for medical use (fried by the FDA and the medical association about 50-60 years ago....), too much competition...

that is why we can't find the specifications for what it is SUPPOSED to be used etc. And I suppose that 110 years ago, when it was invented, no one had pace-makers and the like. So there won't be any info in the old literature either.

BUT, you can check PEMFs or PLASMA Rife. They also emit high voltage and are used for medical use (even though Rife is also a forbidden device).

PEMFS are approved so far by the FDA, until too many people start using it (then they will probably suddenly become dangerous for the health!!! [Big Grin] )

There are many makers of PEMF and you can read around to be sure!!

Dr. Pawluk has some info that I find easy to understand, as it is a bit confusing to swim around so much info!

Let us know what you find and decide to do (and whether it helps pain).

As the magnetic fields are weaker int he violet ray, there is a rather inexpensive device said to work well, produced by Sota. I think it's around 300 dollars, and it does penetrate quite deep in the body, for what I've been reading.

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