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bcb1200
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Hi folks:

My 9 Year Old Daughter is being treated for Lyme, Bartonella and Mycoplasma.

This past weekend she was bitten by a horse fly on the inside of her leg near the knee. She has a classic, large raised welt from the bite.

Fast forward to today, a large bullseye-like rash has formed around the welt. Classic lyme-like bulleye except for the large raised welt in the middle. (Tick bites typically don't cause large, raised welts.) The rash is hot but doesn't itch. The bite in the center is still raised in a large welt which again is not common for a tick bite.

She is already on Minocycline and MC-Bar-1 drops for her Lyme treatment. So that is fortunate.

I've called LLMD and am awaiting a response. Wondering what we should do. She's already on treatment. Only option is to add more abx. Perhaps a cephalosporin? Thoughts?

Also, is this even Lyme? I've heard of horse flies potentially causing bulls eye rashes. But there aren't a lot of good cases.

Anyway, what would you do in this situation?

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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sixgoofykids
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Since she's already on meds, I think she's likely okay. See what your LLMD says.

Maybe the bite brought out existing Lyme symptoms (bullseye rash). My daughter (in her 20s), had a bullseye reappear years after being well from Lyme when she started a program with a functional medicine doctor with the intention of optimizing her health in her childbearing years.

She had no Lyme symptoms at all, but when they started strengthening her detox, a bullseye showed up, then went away. That was a couple years ago. It never was connected to any Lyme symptoms.

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bcb1200
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Thanks. Fingers crossed. We may be adding omnicef just to be safe.

Here is an article from the New England Journal of Medicine detailing a man who got Lyme from a horse fly bite.

http://tinyurl.com/bq64o

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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Does not surprise me. Its good she was on meds.
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Rumigirl
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Thank God she is on meds & has a good LLMD.
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Seven spirochetal strains have been successfully recovered from mosquitoes and black flies:

BR149 (Culex pipiens), BR151 (Cx. pipiens), BR173 (Cx. pipiens), BR177 (Cx. pipiens), BR193 (Aedes cinereus), BR208 (Cx. pipiens), and BR231 (Simulium noelleri).

The strains have been adapted to laboratory conditions (BSK-H Complete medium).

Their preliminary determination based on 16S rRNA gene sequencing has shown that they differ from the Lyme disease spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato as well as other members of the Order Spirochaetales indicating novel bacterial species in the Family Spirochaetaceae.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20618647

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We have little doubt that it is LD.A pastor friend of ours was helping his dad move some things in Cali. When he got back home to Idaho his body started failing quickly.

Couldn't walk regressed to inability to stand, then to sit up and finally get out of bed. Went to the hospital and initial dx was Guillain-Barre.

As his condition worsened the he told his doctor that he had been bitten by a horsefly and the doc decided to test him for LD and surprise, surprise he tested positive and received treatment.

Mind you, horsefly bite in California = LD.

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Brussels
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No wonder dr. K is saying that lyme is not a TICK BORN disease anymore.

It's an insect-vector disease!!

I hope he will be fine!!

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