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Sonoma 1
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Questions about treatment for hormone deficiency to those who have healed from Lyme and had hormone tx. Or for that matter those who are treating hormones now.

Llmd has Rx'd cytomel for t3 thyroid. I haven't started it yet as I'm afraid I won't be able to get off of it once I start. Also afraid of it throwing me into a tailspin as I've made some great progress this summer. Have you used it temporarily?

My total t3 is 84ng/dl and the range is 80-200. My free t3 is 3.2pg/ml and the range is 2.8-4.4.

He also has me on testosterone cypionate Injections which I'm taking every 10-14 days. It's improved my energy, strength and has corrected my muscle and weight loss.

I weighed 166lbs pre lyme, though a good 10lbs of that was love handles and torso fat. Now I'm back to 158 but without the torso fat.

I don't want to take Testo forever either. Side effects are miminal, mostly on the day of the shot I feel a bit wired.

Thanks.

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I can't speak to testosterone but, generally, be sure to stay with PHYSIOLOGIC (replacement) RANGE, no more, with any hormones.

Is this a time released cytomel? If not, I would not touch it. It nearly killed me many years ago because about the same time each day, it would drop me like a rock and it was the more horrible drop from which there was barely an escape.

It took me a long time to figure that out - after hearing others with same experience.

BEST to go with NATURE THROID, a natural T3 & T4.

It's also gluten free.

Not sure cytomel is gluten free as many thyroid Rx, and many other Rx do contain gluten, too. IMO, every Rx we take must be gluten free as so many with lyme have issues with gluten and for those who also have celiac, it's a must to avoid even a trace.
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http://rlclabs.com/

RLC Labs


http://getrealthyroid.com/why-get-real/nature-throid/

Nature-Throid


http://www.pdr.net/full-prescribing-information/nature-throid?druglabelid=496

PDR - Full Prescribing Information

Nature-Throid (thyroid) - RLC Labs
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See the "Heal the Hormones" article here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT
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I pulled some key articles from that links set above. The adrenals MUST be in good shape for any of the body's hormones to work well and with each other.


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Heal+the+hormones+to+heal+from+Lyme+disease.-a0231544999

Heal the Hormones to Heal From Lyme Disease

By Connie Strasheim - July 2010 The Townsend Letter

http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/July2010.html


http://webhome.idirect.com/~wolfnowl/thyroid7.htm

Get To Know Your Endocrine System -by Lauri M. Aesoph, N.D.


http://www.prohealth.com/ME-CFS/library/showArticle.cfm?libid=14383&B1=EM031109C

http://tinyurl.com/detwtt

Underactive Adrenal Gland - Stresses and Problems with the Body's 'Gear Box' - by Dr. Sarah Myhill, MD

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Many libraries carry this book and you can read 95 customer reviews here (average 4.5 star out of 5) AND see inside the book:

www.amazon.com/Adrenal-Fatigue-Century-Stress-Syndrome/dp/1890572152/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263516913&sr=8-1

Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome

~ James L. Wilson, ND, DC, PhD, Johnathan V. Wright, MD

About $10. And qualifies for free shipping with a total $25. Purchase at Amazon
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I just came across this article today. Read what it says about testosterone & other hormones, too in the section about DHEA, the The zona reticularis.


http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1898785-overview

Suprarenal (Adrenal) Gland Anatomy

Overview

The suprarenal glands, also known as adrenal glands, belong to the endocrine system. They are a pair of triangular-shaped glands, each about 2 in long and 1 in wide, that sit on top of the kidneys (image below).

The suprarenal glands are responsible for the release of hormones that regulate metabolism, immune system function, and the salt-water balance in the bloodstream; they also aid in the body’s response to stress.

[Much more here about the anatomy and duties of the adrenal glands. Great illustrations, too. It's very intricate, indeed. See all THREE PAGES]
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We are all different when it comes to our response to thyroid med. I get sick on Naturethroid and can only take Armour Thyroid. Both of those are natural glandulars with both T3 and T4.
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The best hormone treatments for me are Vital Force Tech. No side effects, they also treat the hypothalamus axis, etc.

My lyme doctor is using these hormones to his lyme patients.

Vital Force also uses Ashwaganda in some formulas.

It's even better than homeopathic hormones, or bio identical hormones, and incomparable with chemical hormones. they are another league.

I had a great transformation, so fast, when I started having a pre-menopause sort of crisis. It was so fast, and I was back to my old self.

They also have T3 hormones. I took homeopathic T3 when I had lyme, but today, I would try their T3 too, in case I have problems with T3 again.

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If you'll be taking only T3, please consider the timed release compounded version. I couldn't tolerate it straight even if I broke it up throughout the day, and TR was the perfect solution.

By the way, my FT3 is where yours is and I feel great (FT4 is in the upper range). I do take full replacement thyroid hormone and a higher FT3 causes me to be very tired. Others do really well with a higher FT3. You'll have to experiment and see.

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It turns out that my ft4 is also at the bottom of the range and rt3 is dead center of the range. I don't know what to expect though many supplements or meds make me wired, anxious, or agitated.
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Sonoma, please check out this site. Stop The Thyroid Madness. They also have FB page if you do FB.

I've been on T4 meds only for 30 years. It wasn't until my Lyme & co symptoms let up, that I realized something else had me by the tail.

This website will educate you and it's done by folks who have been there done that. There's nothing simple about Thyroid disease....it reminds me of the Lyme world.

Pam

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Sonoma- I am actually treated by Dr. S in the second Stop the Thyroid Madness book. I am on generic cytomel now (gluten free) with nature Throid. My TSH was close to 6 a month ago. I was joking with the pharmacist- but not realy- Lyme was easier to figure than this at some level. Cytomel has been hard for me to adjust to. Drink a lot of water. I have a problem with too much Reverse T3 so I have to do some cytomel. Will report later when I have more info. This is another health issue that demands your knowledge and studying up in my humble opinion.
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I looked over the sttm website. They're big on the cortisol issue. My symptoms are a much more like hyper thyroid than hypo. My 4 point cortisol is mid reference range at 6am, lower quarter at noon, way above range at 6pm, then slightly above range at 10pm.

FT3 & ft4 are lower end of reference range. Rt3 dead center of range.

Any ideas about that?

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