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Pebbles
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I was wondering if anyone who has some experience with testing and treating Adrenal fatigue could give me some input.

How would treatment differ if you were to just treat using ashwaghanda, some vitamin C ect. vs if you were to get the cortisol test done.

I am strapped right now and fatigue is pretty much my only symptom right now and I was just wondering if I could just start treating or would it be better to know the results of the test because the treatment would be better or different?

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I didn't do the tests but had severe fatigue despite using ashwagandha. What's really helping me now is Standard Process Desiccated Adrenals, but any quality bovine adrenal product should do the job well. Here's two brands from amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Process-Adrenal-90-Tablets/dp/B018XWKQSW/

https://www.amazon.com/American-Biologics-Adrenal-Glandular-capsules/dp/B000EGJILM/l

And then there's this, which has some ashwagandha but isn't the largest ingredient:

https://www.amazon.com/Adrenal-Support-containing-Ashwagandha-Schizandra/dp/B0131EDZKS/

Hope this helps.

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How long did it take to start feeling better. I tried something like this awhile back, I can't remember how long I took it though, maybe 6 months, never noticed a difference when I took it.
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I think it was a week or so, maybe less. I've since stopped using ashwagandha.
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My hubby used Dr James Wilson's Adrenal Rebuilder, Super Adrenal Stress Formula and Adrenal C.

In a month's time he went from struggling to work 2 1/2 hours a day to working 5 hours a day.

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Thanks for the input jory, it probably wasn't the right supplement for me.

Thanks MannaMe, I have been hearing a lot of things about Dr James Wilson, I am going to check it out.

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Wow, Jory! Good to know!
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I was just looking at Dr James Wilson's website and took the quiz. He said that for moderate adrenal fatigue it can take between 12 to 18 months, so that's good to know that even though I took that adrenal supplement it still might not have been long enough.
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I think with Lyme, its a continual stress on the adrenals and we probably need to supplement longer.

My hubby still takes the supplements, just the maintenance amount unless he has extra stress.

I don't have Lyme and did have adrenal fatigue several years ago. Once my adrenals recovered I was able to stop taking them. I only take some occasionally when I'm under major stress and feeling 'jangly'.

Hope you find something that helps.

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MannaMe, I don't have lyme anymore. I just still struggle with fatigue.

Do you take all the supplements. It seems like the Super Adrenal Stress formula has all the ingredients already that are in the Adrenal C Formula.

Also, did you find anything to be too stimulating. I am really wired, so I need something to help me calm down first....right?

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I only took the Adrenal c and Adrenal Rebuilder. I thought the Super Adrenal Stress Formula was more of a multivitamin and I had a multi I liked.

My hubby is still taking the Adrenal C and Adrenal Rebuilder. 1 of each 3 times a day unless he feels extra stressed. Then he will take 2.

Neither of us found them too stimulating. I would say I feel 'jangly' or 'buzzed' when my adrenals are too stressed. Then I know I need to start taking adrenal support again. It doesn't take long for those feelings to leave again.

Vitamin c and real salt (with minerals)are two things the adrenals need.

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Thank you so much for all your help and input!!
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Does anyone know if a regular Dr does this type of testing, or is this just something that a ND would do?
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I think most regular doctors will do a blood test which Dr Wilson says isn't as accurate as the saliva test.

We had the saliva tests done.

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That's what I thought, that even if they did they wouldn't be helpful or even accurate....thanks again for all your help!
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The family doctor told me, "we have nothing to treat adrenal fatigue until the adrenals stop working. And then its a life or death situation." But they do have something to help you once it gets that bad.

I wasn't at the doctor about adrenal fatigue at the time or I don't think I would have gotten all this info. The doctor said "go to the health food store, they can help you."

I found Dr Wilson's book at the health food store and that started our journey towards better adrenal health!

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" . . . "we have nothing [I'll add, in the world of our regular doctors] to treat adrenal fatigue until the adrenals stop working. And then its a life or death situation." But they do have something to help you once it gets that bad."

Exactly as MannaMe explains. But then, with failure, it's full on with steroids for life. Not a good match for lyme.

A lot of the testing is just not helpful for those in our position, I've found.

Though a saliva test can offer a hint, just one point in one day just cannot encapsulate a full view. How you feel is a better determination, I think. See how you feel with the various top notch adrenal supports. Rotate to find what serves you best.

Avoid anything that offers a boost, though. You do not want a boost. A "boost" can zoom us to the moon and then drop us into a crater, so to speak. You want support - food for the adrenals, and herbs that work to calm the overactive neuro response.

As MannaMe says, most doctors are not educated in the kinds of adrenal supports that can really serve us.

And most doctors are clueless as to the adrenal issues for those with chronic lyme. LLMDs, usually know some adrenal supports. Burrascano has had Cordyceps as part of his protocol since he started.

Naturopathic doctors are educated beyond that, but only if they are truly lyme literate, too, to really understand how very different a lyme patient is from others.

Most ILADS educated LL NDs can be excellent to help guide us in this regard, far beyond anything in the links set below, they know much more.


Avoid ANY CHALLENGE testing where you would be given any kinds of hormones or steroids to test reactions. Detail, with book link MannaMe mentions:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT
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MannaMe,

Thanks for the specific supplement names a few posts above. Always nice to have details.

I also wonder if many with lyme are not very vitamin C deficient if they avoid citrus.
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