randibear
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well I'm n ot a happy camper. I thought I'd go in there, hop on the treadmill...piece of cake.
uh not so fast. I failed the test. I did about five minutes. ok at low level straight but when they cranked it up I got really short of breath and started sweating like crazy.
they called 2 hours later. they said there were enoughblips on the ekg that warrant a nuclear test. I have to go in on wednesday.
I don't deal with this kind of thing well. already I'm a nervous wreck.
so I guess I sit and wait.
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Are you able to put your arms over your head? I think this is the one you have to put your arms over your head while lying flat.
I'm not sure I'll be able to do that one again. OUCH.
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randibear
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oh geez. I had one test, I think it was some kind of cat scan, where I had to lay flat for quite a while with arms over my head. I was in so much pain afterwards I almost cried.
it was months before i felt better. I hope it's not going to be one of those.
she said you lay on a table and they take pictures of your heart but didn't say how. she said it was not a ct scan tho.
well we'll see. strange. she said to bring a coke with me for after the test.
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That arm over the head test that goes on and on, it horrible. Randi, if there's something wrong with your heart, it's better to find out now than when a heart attack takes place.
Don't stress. When it comes to the heart medicine/treatments, they have come a long way.
Take care of you.
Pam
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randibear
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thanks. my family history is horrific, 3 uncles, 1 aunt, grandmother and father all died of heart attacks before age 70. mom died of congestive heart disease. at age 83. one sister had heart attack and had to have stent put in.
husband did agree to take me.
problem is my anxiety which goes through the roof. my bp was at 168 jus doing a regular treadmill test.
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I think we're talking about two different tests. Not sure.
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Silverwolf
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Hi <<<<< randi' >>>>>,
I had the echo test, then pictures in a revolving chair, and then the Nuclear test.
My problem hit so quickly, I don't know what a normal Nuclear stress test would be like. I am so glad I did it tho', likely w/o that test I'd have died.
An antidote to the Nuclear med they give you to speed up your heart,is kept close by. And if they feel it is serious, they'll have you checked, then give the antidote, and off to the Hospital you'll go.
TrekC', doesn't recall having to raise his arms over his head w/ his Nuclear stress test either. By the way he has another echo test and Nuclear test coming up again.
The VA docs' gave him,a medicine that isn't good for folks w/ stents. He has one stent in heart from his two attacks last Holiday season [2016],and one in right common Ileac from his aneurysm in 2011.
So now it has to all be checked carefully again. All I know to do is keep giving these situations to the Lord.
Randi' hang in there, we are praying, let us know how it goes hon'. For me the two echoes I've had done were worse than the Nuclear Stress test, but as I said my problem hit so quick i don't know if it was a normal test.
It is hard not to be nervous, but better to learn what the issues are as soon as possible. it may be something that only requires meds. Hard to know, 'til after your test.
The test is worth it tho' it can save your life! Honestly, if we hadn't found my issue in May, with all the stresses we've been dealing with, I don't believe I'd be here on this earth now.
Keeping you in prayer...love from Silverwolfi [TrekC' is praying too!]
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randibear
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myocardial perfusion spect stress test and rest.
whatever the heck that is.
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Keebler
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- Myocardial perfusion imaging (MPI) is a non-invasive imaging test that shows how well blood flows through (perfuses) your heart muscle.
It can show areas of the heart muscle that aren't getting enough blood flow.
This test is often called a nuclear stress test. -
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Keebler
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- Ibuprofen constricts all blood vessels in the entire body. Not a good idea to take that before such a test as the results would be skewed.
Actually, not a good idea to take it anytime since it's so hard on kidney blood vessels, too.
But most troubling of all, current studies reported in the British Medial Journal link ibuprofen to 97% increased risk of heart attack. -
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The popular pain reliever ibuprofen can cause kidney failure in people with mild kidney disease, according to a new study.
A three-year study on the drug was reported today in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine. . . .
. . . gave participants above-normal doses of 800 milligrams of ibuprofen three times a day - the equivalent of 12 ibuprofen tablets - for up to 11 days.
After eight days, three women developed kidney failure, which reversed when ibuprofen was discontinued. The remaining nine women, who received ibuprofen for 11 days, showed changes in kidney function but did not develop kidney failure.
After recovering, the three women were given 400 milligrams of ibuprofen three times a day, equivalent to normal doses of the drug.
Two of the three again developed kidney failure but recovered when the ibuprofen was stopped.
Ibuprofen relieves pain by interfering with the body's production of prostaglandin, a substance involved in inflammation.
But at the same time, the drug constricts blood flow. . . . -
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Keebler
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- Ibuprofen is a NSAID; this category of analgesics pose increased risks of heart attack
Risk of acute myocardial infarction with NSAIDs in real world use: bayesian meta-analysis of individual patient data
British Medical Journal - Full article. BMJ 2017; 357 doi
Excerpts from the abstract:
. . . Objective: To characterise the determinants, time course, and risks of acute myocardial infarction associated with use of oral non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). . . .
. . . Data sources Studies from Canadian and European healthcare databases. . . .
. . . Results A cohort of 446 ,763 individuals including 61, 460 with acute myocardial infarction was acquired.
Taking any dose of NSAIDs for one week, one month, or more than a month was associated with an increased risk of myocardial infarction.
With use for one to seven days the probability of increased myocardial infarction risk (posterior probability of odds ratio >1.0)
was 92% for celecoxib,
97% for ibuprofen, . . . .
. . . Conclusions: All NSAIDs, including naproxen, were found to be associated with an increased risk of acute myocardial infarction . . . . -
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Keeb .. I'm not saying ibuprofen is good for anyone. I can't take it at all.
I was just concerned that she would be in pain from raising her arms over her head for 20 minutes.
She needs to check with her doctors about any meds she might take .. or NOT take.
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Keebler
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- Understandably, I don't want anyone in pain either.
I sure would not trust the typical US doctor regarding either acetaminophen or ibuprofen or any NSAID, actually, or even most Rx. Many of them are in the dark regarding ramifications.
However, if they are looking at the heart and blood vessels ibuprofen can ruin the test. The results simply won't be the same as if that were not in the body. And it puts the heart at risk to use it even away from image testing.
There are so many other ways to address pain. Some things are hands on like massage, heat, ultrasound, yoga, etc. And for immediate relief, acupuncture is a good option, too. Sadly, our medical system would rather patients take dangerous drugs, IMO.
Herbal / nutritional supplements can be very helpful, though also not a good idea before an imaging test as you'd want to see the body as it is without anything that interferes or alters the picture. -
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randibear
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they told me nothing to eat or drink and no medications the day of the test. same thing as regular stress test.
hmmmm, the cardiologist did start me on a baby aspirin every day. but I don't take anything but my diovan and nadolol.
husband can be in waiting room and can sit in drs office after the test to hear results. I guarantee I'll be zoned out.
I'm going with him to discuss his cancer treatment options too.
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