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I know that the current thinking is that Lyme crosses the placenta and can infect the fetus so all pregnant women should be on antibiotics during their entire pregnancy. My question is regarding freezing of eggs for use in a future pregnancy. Is there any information regarding whether or not these eggs would be infected with Lyme when they are retrieved and frozen for future use. Thank you.
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Excellent question. Are we talking about a woman who has Lyme when the eggs are removed?
I would think YES, but would freezing the eggs kill the spirochetes? Seems like it would?
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- I'm not so sure freezing would kill spirochetes. It is an importnat question to find the answer to, certainly. While spirochetes and ticks are not the same, ticks can survive up to -17 F (below zero).
I don't know if tests have been done to examine the infections within ticks that survived -17, though. I also don't know how low a temperature human eggs would be taken to for the preservation process.
Also consider other tick-borne infections that might be on board.
I'm not sure why consideration of freezing eggs, though, unless age is creeping up or going through chemotherapy or other harsh treatments.
Many women have gone through proper treatment for lyme / TBD and gone on to be able to conceive a healthy baby.
Treatment for lyme / tick-borne disease does not require eggs to be taken out. You can hold onto them right where they are.
After a proper treatment for lyme / TBD, it also may be that newer eggs will be in better shape than any removed and set aside now, if your age is still in a good window for "good" eggs, though. -
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HopingandPraying posted this:
The top LL Pediatrician, Dr. J, has put together a protocol for pregnant women with Lyme which can be followed with one's own doctor. I'd call his office to ask what is recommended in your case. -
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- Found my file notes:
A Pediatric LLMD & also advises women considering pregnancy - he is held in the highest esteem. Start here:
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Yes, I had been diagnosed with Lyme 15 years earlier and I had been on antibiotics on and off for 10 years before I did the egg freezing and was negative on Western Blot but was still very symptomatic. And I completely agree with staying on antibiotics if I get pregnant utilizing these eggs but was just wondering if there was any information regarding Lyme infecting the ovaries. Thanks for your help.
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- Dr. J's office will be your very best link to top information.
Yes, though, borrelia can find its way to anywhere in the body. It does not need the bloodstream to travel as it can literally spring through tissue as it's a corkscrew. It can even burrow into the bones.
Be sure that antibiotics are also always accompanied with other methods to address the cystic form of lyme. Antibiotics, alone, can cause the borrelia spirochetes to go into a tiny round ball of sorts, the cystic form of borrelia and that hides from antibiotics. Other methods are required as well to address that form.
And, again, lyme rarely travels alone. Other tick borne infections should be assessed and, if on board or suspected by an ILADS educated LLMD, should be addressed. Often, antibiotics will not work for some of the other tick borne infections (such as babesia).
As antibiotics and other Rx can really clobber the gut, the MICROBIOME (gut health; vaginal health) also requires specific "foods" and probiotics. This matter to the entire body for many reason, really, even to the nervous system that relies on gut health.
Hope you connect with Dr. J's office and with the others in the links set for you.
The best of luck to you. -
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I think, personally, it's not a bad idea to freeze the eggs for future use...
The problem to have babies while fighting lyme is also on the mother's side: it's very time consuming to look after small babies, SPECIALLY when you are ill.
And just imagine, that even if the baby does not have lyme, it can have other problems (specially if they are on those loads of vaccines).
It's not easy to worry and treat a baby while still ill. I speak due to personal experience.
Some people though feel better during pregnancy...
that is the other side of the story.
And also: just think: if most of the people in the US are exposed to Borrelia, but not all fall ill, chances are that the baby will also be exposed to Borrelia, even if the egg and mother are Borrelia-free.
It's not only Moms that infect their children. The environment is full of Borrelia, by mosquitoes, spiders, ticks, G knows what else infects people.
I even think that small bugs living in the mattresses (microscopic insects that live by thousands in ALL mattresses), could also pass on Bb to people who sleep in the same mattress.
If Bb is so tiny, there could be loads of Bb in the digestive tract of these bed critters.
Don't feel it's only you that can protect your child by being Bb free. You won't be Bb free 100% as much as people with Herpes will never be Herpes free 100%.
So there is no magic solution for the problem.
If you think too much, you make no babies!!!
It's quite a big responsibility, but what you get back as a reward is also 'big', positively (my experience)...
I hope you arrive to decide!
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