1) Is it normal to occasionally have body or appendage spasms/jolts?
2) In 2011, I had a 'shaking attack' that lasted an hour. Went to the ER and they didnt know what it was (big f*ing surprise ). I thought it may have been due to a recent prozac med dose change... My psych at the time said no that's not the reason. My psych NOW, after I told him, said it could have been.
I had been going down in dose (from 600, gradually) and was at 200 mg...I went up to 400 and had the attack. So then I went to 300 and have been on that ever since as I'm scared to vary the dose at all now due to the attack.
Could it have been Lyme related? I was dx'ed in 2016 with it but they think I've had it 20+ years.
And for each of these questions, anything i can do?
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Hmmm... I'm with you. Keep the dosage the same for awhile and see how you do.
I have muscle spasms quite a bit. I think for me it's from MCAS and from the meds for that depleting my magnesium. I always try to up my mag when I get spasms. It seems to help.
There's a great product called ReMag you might want to look into. It gets mag right into the cells.
Feel better soon!
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I've been at 300 since that time (2011). I'm on I think 300 mg of mag glycinate. Maybe I should up it....
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- . . . He found reports of tics and other neurological side effects . . . .
Like many others, Elizabeth Wurtzel '89 and Lauren Slater, Ed. M. '89--the authors, respectively, of Prozac Nation (1994) and Prozac Diary (1998) -
- suffered "Prozac poop-out": the drug's mood-altering effects wore off and depression returned.
In fact, according to a 1995 study by associate professor of psychiatry Maurizio Fava, Prozac wears off within a year for about one-third of those who take it.
"This is tolerance," says clinical instructor in psychiatry and University Health Services physician Joseph Glenmullen, M.D. '84.
His new book, Prozac Backlash (Simon & Schuster), documents not only tolerance, withdrawal syndromes, and drug dependency,
but a panoply of dangers linked to "Prozac-like drugs"--selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs).
"We now have unequivocal evidence from a wide range of side effects that Prozac-type drugs
impair the normal functioning of the brain," Glenmullen says.
SSRIs include Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa--trade names that invariably include an x or z for drugs that are best known as antidepressants.
But "calling them that is misleading," says Glenmullen . . . .
. . . What is not washed out are the side effects, which include the potential for brain damage.
A few years ago one of Glenmullen's patients who was taking Prozac developed a tic--the tongue darting in and out of the mouth--that persisted for months after the drug was discontinued.
That sent Glenmullen to Countway Library. He found reports of tics and other neurological side effects, like drug-induced Parkinsonism, associated with SSRIs.
"The tics include lip smacking, lip puckering, fishlike kissing motions, and pelvic thrusting," Glenmullen says.
"They are involuntary, disfiguring, and can be very noticeable--and may persist long after the drug is stopped.
This is the dread side effect in psychiatry, and it can indicate brain damage. Such reactions are not rare. Neurologic agitation is estimated to occur in 10 to 25 percent of patients, and muscle spasms in 10 percent." . . . .
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- In a different thread, you report uro-genital pain deep inside (not outer tissue) . You say it's been intense pain that comes and goes.
the " pelvic thrusting" mentioned as a neurological "tic" side-effect &/or even nerve damage from prozac
might give a clue that, perhaps, prozac could be triggering the pain attacks in your pelvis just not to the point of thrusting, though it would be the same nerve pathway, likely. -
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- Never just stop any SSRI / antidepressant. Very careful tapering off over time - - along with certain foods, specific nutrient & and anti-inflammatory supports are required.
Magnesium & the best quality Fish Oil, along with lots of green veggies (& maybe also B vitamins) top the list.
Turmeric also helps.
There are many organizations that help with this. Some doctors do. Both your LLMD & your Rx prescribing doctor - if experienced with this aspect of care could be a good help. Even if not, be sure they both know of any decisions you make to change your dosage.
If the Rx prescribing doctor is not open to this, find a doctor with this kind of experience. Your LLMD might know.
Some of the websites or YouTube videos by patients can be very helpful, too.
If you consider doing this, know there are ways to go about it safely but a plan must be in place. And there are other ways to offer relief from troublesome symptoms. Many other ways.
One that looks reasonable, at first glance, though keep in mind the personal accounts are not direct medical advice, just what helped others.
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Magnesium glycinate is pretty high in oxalates. Oxalates rob us of minerals .. like mag.
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- TuTu,
What is the best form of magnesium to take then, for someone wanting to be low oxalate? Is the the Re-Mag I've seen you suggest? Could you please post what ever form is best for 6Hypnone to consider - to save her time of sorting that out? -
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Thank u for the info. Seems like u don't think this has to do with Lyme. And I'd love to come off but... 1) I'm afraid of the attack coming back 2) what if the initial depression I went on it for, comes back? I dunno what the initial cause was back in 1991. Seemed out of nowhere. Which leads me to believe w/out some 'help' it will hist return. And I'm on glycinate bc its specific to nerve pain
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