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Have been looking into essential oils for Lyme based on findings that show oils kill Lyme. I joined a Facebook group for it, and I also learned that dr k uses Rizols which are basically ozonated essential oils. Not sure what ozonating them does, haven’t been able to find the science behind that. I first started using the oils topically and seeing if I notice a difference. I don’t really herx so hard to tell. Then started putting them in capsules, diluting them with olive oil.
I started getting an upset stomach though. So then I tried to find a way to dilute them further. I looked into making liposomal essential oils. It is basically encapsulating the essential oil with fat, and makes it easier for the oils to permeate into tissues and possibly easier to cross BBB etc. so I started making them using a jewelry cleaner and lecithin which was very easy, the oil turns white when it is done processing.
I take the oil now and I mix it with juice and it’s amazing- the oil does not float to the surface of the juice . It mixes completely with the juice...so i don’t know it seems like this could be a powerful tool in fighting Lyme.
I am worried about taking this internally though, as there isn’t much research behind that. I am still feeling like my stomach or intestines are a little irritated but it seams to be getting less, maybe I’m building a tolerance to that part?
I know my stomach was upset when I first took antibiotics too. Has anyone experimented with essential oils? Do you think it is a bad idea?
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- There is no way to read your post with zero breathing room for the eyes. However, essential oils are best not consumed internally with few exceptions. They are best for aroma therapy.
They can burn a whole in one's stomach when taken internally. It's best not to experiment. -
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Also it seems like when you are dealing with Lyme, sometimes stronger is not better. If you feel like you need something really strong you could try oregano oil (not essential oil) or olive leaf.
I tried peppermint oil internally (because I heard it is so good at killing Lyme but I don't think it did much for me at all.
Since clove oil is too strong I've been taking whole cloves. Clove is supposed to be good for bartonella I've heard. They are really strong enough by themselves. The whole cloves are so strong I think I need to take a break from them (and I'm not usually sensitive to herbs).
Also you mentioned jewelry cleaner. If you are ingesting any amount of jewelry cleaner that is probably not a good idea.
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The problem with essential oils, is that they are very potent and they work better than many antibiotics, and that is why any practitioner saying that they work will find trouble with the FDA.
Long ago, here in lymenet, there was a practitioner called F., who treated basically with essential oils.
She had a practice and nice oil mixtures specifically for brain, encephalitis, joint pain, lyme symptoms etc.
She used them topically, if my memory is good, and in desperate times, I think she ingested a bit of them too (I can't remember, as my brain was fully lymied back then....).
But the truth is: her practice was probably closed, as no one could find her anymore, after she reached remission and started working again.
Her website led to a dead end, so I suspect, she got harassed by the FDA or something alike....
So you won't find a lot of info on essential oils against infections, nor on ingested essential oils.
I guess, it depends on the dilution you make. As people say above, better take it very diluted.
----------------- I produced my first batch of liposomal acerola, and am looking for other recipes with oils.
Could you share with us how you do? Where did you get your recipe?
I'd like to do that with VitD + K2 (oils) and hemp oil. I'd love to see how they feel.
I've been again in love with Vit D + K2. After a while, I forget to take them, but my body feels the effect.
Now that I take them daily, I feel how much they support my body, even if it's sunny already.
I would love to try to encapsulate my hemp oil too, that is already super potent, but I'd like to try to take it before bed to see what it does (to my brain, sleep etc).
If you could share your recipe, I'd be grateful !!
I used essential oils on the skin, and also breathe some deeply. They do something to my brain, I'm sure. Some feel like heaven.
For emotional problems, some essential oils are great friends. Rubbed on the scalp, thyroid, thymus, liver, belly, joints, they always do something positive.
I was less brave than you concerning ingestion. But who knows diluted with olive oil + encapsulated with lecithin, they would be less bad?
Know that by encapsulating them, you will probably reach INSIDE your cells.
So if they are too concentrate, I would be wary as they may hurt organelles (it's just my own guess....), as well as kill some intracellular pathogens...
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I edited my post. Sorry I forgot about spacing the paragraphs.i am not ingesting jewelry cleaner. I use a jewelry cleaner to make the oils into Liposomes.
It is supposed to be a lot more diluted and less harsh turning the oils into a liposomal solution that is diluted with water and then further diluted with juice. Because the finished product can mix with liquids I think that the potential to burn your stomach is a lot less.
This hasn’t been studied though but I doubt essential oils will have many studies done on them for Lyme in the near future. I’m sure if the essential oils were burning a hole in my stomach that I would feel it? And I did feel some irritation using just straight pure essential oils, but this is much less since using liposomal essential oils.
I think since antibiotics haven’t touched my Lyme and since there really aren’t that many antibiotics left to try that exploring easential oils could be a good thing, especially since it has been found that the Lyme bacteria have little chance of building a resistance to the oils.
If anyone else has experience with essential oils specifically liposomal ones I would like to hear of your experience. Dr k is using essential oils internally like I said, I would think that if they were so dangerous that he wouldn’t be using them ? But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe he has used dangerous things before I don’t know. I believe his are liposomal as well as ozonated.
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For how to make liposomal oils look up how to make liposomal eo’s on google and the website I believe is Eytons earth that has step by step instructions.
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Is he using liposomal essential oils? I'll ask someone... I know he uses rizols, which are ozonated oils, very different than liposomals.
Just start slow, and check.
I tried my first batch of liposomal Vit C, and it's feeling very good. A surge of energy, out of nothing!
I guess, as you said, if they really burned your stomach, you would feel it in your throat already...
These oils were initially INSIDE the plants, right? So we all eat these oils, but in minute amounts.
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