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zeitgeist
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Dear Group,

My chiropractor says I need to "strengthen the Collagen matrix" in my back.

What is a good supplement that is effective for doing this and also strengthen connective tissue?

There is so much for sale out there on the Internet I kind of don't even know where to begin, and that's why I came on here to ask---to get some recommendations from people who are having good success with what they are taking.

Thanks,
Zeitgeist

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How about bone broth or something like that? I heard that when you make bone broth all the collagen goes out of the bones into the broth.

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Bone broth sounds so wonderful--wish I liked the taste. My husband bought some ready-made bone broth
and I thought it would taste excellent but I couldn't get past one sip.

Are there any that taste good? Does it taste better when you make it yourself?

What about this thing I found on the Internet called
"Bone broth protein powder?"

Would that be a way to gain collagen?

I wish I wasn't so sensitive to tastes, but I am.

Thanks,
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You have to season it yourself. Most brands make it plain since so many have various sensitivities / preferences or use with different recipes.

Sometimes, just a little sea salt in it with hot water is enough to get a cup down and just call it a cup of nutrients. For flavor, you can go beyond and have it with your meat, veggies and whatever seasonings you use for those foods will enhance the taste of the broth.

Best brand I've found and tastes a bit smoky yet also delicious with just salt and hot water added is

BONAFIDE PROVISIONS - in the freezer case if your store carries it.

Butchers bone broth is very bland yet will work with seasoning and with cooking.

It's easy to make your own chicken bone broth though. And beef and lamb bones can also be used if you have from your cuts of meat -- or find bones at the butcher / your market.

I let it simmer overnight in my oven at about 230 degrees. I make is very condensed so that it's easy to put into and pull out of the oven.

The bones are covered enough so I see no point in huge amounts of water in a pan. Easier to freeze a cup in small jar that way too.

After straining out the bones over a smaller pan for the broth.

Let some steam out, of course but leave covered to cool - first on counter for an hour and on a cooling tray if you have a strong one until the warm is nearly subsided so as not to heat fridge, then in fridge overnight before then putting cold gel into jars for freezer.

If you have some blue ice packs in freezer, set those in fridge near the pan when you set it in fridge to chill.
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You ask: "Bone broth protein powder?"

No, I sure would not do that. Sounds horrible to me. It's too processed and that is farther from what you want in your food.

GREAT LAKES makes a nice collagen powder.

Also be sure to eat good organic pastured meats that are not lean but have a good amount of fat and connective tissue still on them. This matters a lot in the nutrients absorbed.

When you eat roasted chicken, be sure to eat the soft cartilage bits, too. They may be a bit crunchy and a bit weird, but it's vital to eat that, too. You might want to pull them apart and put those bits back in the oven for a little while to get softer, though.

Do not expect to enjoy this - still, delight in the health benefits and "just do it" before you've finished the last bits of delicious meat in the meal. I always eat the parts I like less at the start of meal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartilage

Cartilage
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From my file notes:

https://greatlakesgelatin.com/storefront/the-glg-difference.html

[note: differences in their gelatin & collage products but start with their main page here]

GREAT LAKES GELATIN - manufacturer's website / information on their sources & practices.

https://greatlakesgelatin.com/storefront/why-collagen/wellness.html

Why Collagen - from Great Lakes' site

[I am appalled at the photos and emphasis on extreme body building - I hate those kinds of sales tactics. Still, regardless of you want to win Ms. or Mr. Muscle Mass Galore title or just regain your health, this product and the source / method seem to be among the best. And that matters.]


https://draxe.com/what-is-collagen/

What Is Collagen? 7 Ways Collagen Can Boost Your Health

by Rachael Link, MS, RD - Dr. Axe blog - July 18, 2018


https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3570003

Q: Buhner, collagen support?

A: Posted 1/18/2016

Excerpts:

. . . Buhner lists the following for collagen protection:

1 tablespoon daily Great Lakes gelatin powder (he prefers pork) . . . .

[Vitamin C also must be on board so you can absorb this.]

. . . Buhner has an expanded collagen support protocol outlined in his new book on Lyme. He writes: . . . .


iHerb and VitaCost are good vendors to find.

https://www.vitacost.com

Search site for:

Great Lakes Gelatin Collagen Joint Care Porcine Gelatin

Unflavored -- 16 oz - $21. VitaCost
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Regarding nutrients in meats and all the tissue that goes with that, a wonderful research work in a book:

Nina Teicholtz - The Big FAT Surprise
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