randibear
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curious. where do you get your olive leaf extract capsules?
both ann and i are interested. somebody said seagate.
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Keebler
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- SEAGATE -- or White Tiger Myrolea-B tablets
Olive Leaf Extract, according to Morton Walker in his book, will not destroy good bacteria in the gut. In fact, when added to cultured foods (sauerkraut, etc.) it enhanced the availability of such.
But, it's important to also take key probiotics &/or be sure to eat probiotic foods. -
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Seagate was great stuff till my stomach caved! The only OLE I actually felt was working.
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- You might want to copy and paste this to your desk top reference file.
OLE (Olive Leaf Extract)
PROBIOTICS are always good to include - timed away from most Rx and herbs. Yet - new writings seem to indicated that OLE actually HELPS the good gut bacteria, even that OLE "feeds" the good gut microflora.
EASY GOES IT. Start with just one (as this can produce a herx). It may take a week or so to feel the benefits if there is a herxheimer reaction or any kind of microbial die-off even from viruses or candida.
SYNERGY. A combined formula - or some other antimicrobial is good with it (as always) to help avoid resistance.
ROTATION is also good.
For herbs complementary to OLE, and those good for rotation, this thread has articles & books by many holistic LL doctors of varies degrees:
Also can cross search with any symptom or organ system to find abstracts that may relate more to the reason you may be interested in this. For instance:
Olive Leaf Extract, endothelial - 8 abstracts
Book below covers so much more, too, it's very important to have this:
You can buy it from a store which carries it in your area. Look on the Seagate page in the top right-hand corner under "Monthly Specials" where it says "Stores". Click on it and put in your state or zip code to find one.
I have purchased OLE locally from a store and also from Amazon. You can also purchase it from the Seagate company directly.
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Keebler
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- Seagate has a new OLE tincture, too.
This is good for those with mouth issues, as it's so "calm" it can be left in the mouth for a while, straight. No alcohol. No burn. With xylitol (also good for oral tissue) and a pleasant raspberry & mint (does not burn like many mints do).
I just received a bottle. Very impressed. It's so gentle that I put it on a perpetually inflamed lip an hour ago and it feels soothed. Hope this topical addition helps mouth & lip heal but that will take some time to tell.
I suggest using both capsules and tincture for the full effect. Still, either independently has benefit. Tinctures, I think, help the raw herbs go a bit deeper. -
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My Natural Market almost always has it two for the price of one:
linky123
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Seagate is very good, but it is more expensive.
I take Country Life OLE daily. Along with cranberry, it helps my urinary tract.
IHerb has the best price on it that I have found.
Also, free shipping if you order over $40.00.Usually arrives in a couple of days.
You can google for promo codes and sometimes get some extra $$$ off.
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Keebler
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- It's always nice to hear of what brands help particular posters.
For others who might also want to make comparisons, it's important to research all the steps taken by any particular brand of olive leaf for how it is grown, tended, harvested & processed.
That makes a world of difference for the full amount of support it may provide.
As for Seagate's cost, their extended two-for-one is to help. It's a wonderful deal with 90 capsules costing just $15. No fillers at all, and processing maintains potency.
(450 mg per capsule -- two 90-capsules bottles for $30. the large bottles are also two-for-one -- and their 2 oz. tincture is half the normal price of others).
Free shipping over $40. So an order of two 90-capsule bottles and one 2-oz. bottle of tincture will be just that and qualify for free shipping.
It's just good to learn the similarities and differences of our choices among the brands out there.
Seagate's methods are described in fuller detail in articles and books above - and what to look for in how OLE is processed. A bit of detail from their site:
Elucidation of mechanisms underlying the protective effects of olive leaf extract against lead-induced neurotoxicity in Wistar rats.
Excerpt:
. . . Collectively, these data support the use of OLE by traditional medicine to counter Pb neurotoxicity. . . . -
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Secoiridoids delivered as olive leaf extract induce acute improvements in human vascular function and reduction of an inflammatory cytokine.
[From the UK - Authors listed at link]
Excerpts:
. . . The aim of the present intervention was to investigate the influence of olive leaf extract (OLE) on vascular function and inflammation . . . .
. . . The present study provides the first evidence that OLE positively modulates vascular function and IL-8 production in vivo, adding to growing evidence that olive phenolics could be beneficial for health. -
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Thanks Keebler, I always appreciate the scientific and research info that many on this forum find and post, and your posts are greatly appreciated.
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- Nice to hear. It's always "fun" to go to PubMed every few weeks and see what's new for some of the favorites. -
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- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .
BODY WORK methods / links (and why anyone who works on your spine MUST be LL to the degree they at least know to never suddenly twist neck or spine. Never. Ever. And that we should never be advised to do neck / head / shoulder stands.) -
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Immunomodulatory properties of Olea europaea leaf extract in intestinal inflammation.
[Four authors listed at link. From universities in Italy & Spain]
Mol Nutr Food Res. 2017 Jul 21
. . . Conclusions:
Olive leaf extract presented intestinal anti-inflammatory activity in colitis mouse models, maybe be related to its
immunomodulatory properties and the capacity to restore the intestinal epithelial barrier.
Besides, the extract could also regulate the activity of cells involved in the inflammatory response. [Full abstract at link above.] -
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- Epithelial: relating to or denoting the thin tissue forming the outer layer of a body's surface and lining the alimentary canal and other hollow structures.
A mucous membrane or mucosa is a membrane that lines various cavities in the body and surrounds internal organs. It consists of one or more layers of EPITHELIAL CELLS cells overlying a layer of loose connective tissue.
It is mostly of endodermal origin and is continuous with the skin at various body openings such as the eyes, ears, inside the nose, inside the mouth, lip, the urethral opening and the anus, frenulum of tongue, tongue.
Some mucous membranes secrete mucus, a thick protective fluid.
The function of the membrane is to stop pathogens and dirt from entering the body and to prevent bodily tissues from becoming dehydrated. . . .
Why this matters for many of use here: borrelia and other chronic stealth infections tend to attack epithelial tissues (among cells, too.
So, if the epithelial lining is compromised, misery can ensue (from burning or dry mouth all the way through the entire GI tract, through colon, etc.) and worsening of health can take such sharp turn. -
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Metab Brain Dis. 2017 Oct 16. doi: 10.1007/s11011-017-0131-0.
The neuroprotective effects of hydro-alcoholic extract of olive (Olea europaea L.) leaf on rotenone-induced Parkinson's disease in rat. -
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- The take home as I see it: if OLE can help regarding morphine neurotoxicity, impairment & damage . . . that's a clue it might also be of help with similar issues of neurotoxicity and brain issues.
Naunyn Schmiedebergs Arch Pharmacol. 2019 Jun 24. doi: 10.1007/s00210-019-0167
Effect of oleuropein on morphine-induced hippocampus neurotoxicity and memory impairments in rats.
At link: Ten authors, from 4 medical instutitions in Iran.
Abstract - Excerpts:
Oleuropein, as an olive leaf extract antioxidant polyphenol, has been reported to be a free radical scavenger.
This study was done to investigate the effects of oleuropein, against morphine-induced hippocampus neurotoxicity and memory impairment in rats.
The Morris water maze (MWM) test was used to assess the effect of oleuropein (5, 15, and 30 mg/kg, i.p., co-administrated with morphine)
on spatial learning and memory of male Wistar rats which were treated with morphine sulfate (45 mg/kg, s.c., 4 weeks). . . .
. . . The data showed that oleuropein treatment (15 and 30 mg/kg) improves the
spatial learning and memory impairments
in morphine-treated animals.
Also, oleuropein treatment decreased the apoptosis and oxidative stress levels in the hippocampus CA1 area of morphine-treated rats.
Oleuropein can prevent the spatial learning and memory impairments in morphine-treated rats.
Molecular mechanisms underlying the observed effects could be
at least partially related to the inhibition of neuronal apoptosis and oxidative stress in the hippocampus CA1 area of morphine-treated rats. -
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Front Cardiovasc Med. 2019 May 16;6:56. doi: 10.3389/fcvm.2019.00056. eCollection 2019.
Olive Leaf Extract Attenuates Inflammatory Activation & DNA Damage in Human Arterial Endothelial Cells.
At link: Thirteen Authors from 5 medical institutions in Slovenia, Switzerland and Serbia.
Abstract, Excerpts:
. . . Olive leaf extract (OLE) is used in traditional medicine as a food supplement and as an over-the-counter drug for a variety of its effects, including anti-inflammatory and anti-atherosclerotic ones.
Mechanisms through which OLE could modulate these pathways in human vasculature remain largely unknown.
Serum amyloid A (SAA)
plays a causal role in atherosclerosis and cardiovascular diseases
and induces pro-inflammatory and pro-adhesive responses in
human coronary artery endothelial cells (HCAEC).
Within this study we explored whether OLE can attenuate SAA-driven responses in HCAEC.
HCAEC were treated with SAA (1,000 nM) and/or OLE (0.5 and 1 mg/ml). . . .
. . . OLE significantly
attenuated certain pro-inflammatory and pro-adhesive responses and decreased DNA damage in HCAEC upon stimulation with SAA.
The reversal of SAA-driven endothelial activation by OLE might contribute to its anti-inflammatory and anti-atherogenic effects in HCAEC.
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