This is an urgent reminder to everyone that they need to contact the individuals below with their medical needs and concerns regarding their Lyme infections. If you don't ask for ILADS treatment, you won't receive it!
We need them to see how many of us are being turned away and not given adequate treatment. Respectfully request ILADS based treatment. Please CC: [email protected] so I can keep records of who has contacted them. Also, please pass this on to others you know.
We can't get a thing accomplished if we don't step up to the plate and request what we need. Do not let this opportunity pass us. They are listening....will you tell them what you've been going through? The time to act is now.
Colleen Nicholson Research Assistant to Dr. Burrascano, MD Founder, Military Lyme Support Moderator, MT Lyme Support, AK Lyme Support CALDA, ESLDA, ILADS, LDA, LDPR, TTC
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Hi everyone,
I've been trying to get the word out to our top medical officials about the lack of care at the Military Treatment Facilities for Lyme and it's co-infections. Please send your brief story and contact info ASAP to:
Focus on how many doctors you've gone through, whether or not you're chronic, and if you've ever requested ILADS treatment and been refused by your military doctors.
Please make it short and sweet....as they're wondering "how many" are having/had problems. Also, be sure you are 100% respectful at all times, and address him accordingly.
I've been assured that he is an honorable man, trustworthy, and wanting to help us. Also, if you could, please CC me so I can keep track of who has contacted MG Granger. I may need to assist with a meeting in DC in this regards, so if I can use your story, please send it my way.
Take heart! Looks like some very good things are starting to happen. Have a great day!
Colleen Nicholson Research Assistant to Dr. Burrascano, MD Founder, Military Lyme Support Moderator, MT Lyme Support, AK Lyme Support CALDA, ESLDA, ILADS, LDA, LDPR, TTC
In a message dated 3/12/2008 10:37:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: CSM Holland the MHS is standing by and ready to assist these great Americans. Again give us the names or tell them to contact us or their local MTF. Thanks. EG
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Granger, Elder, MG, OASD(HA)/TMA; LAWRENCE.HOLLAND; Casscells, S. Ward, Assistant Secretary of Defense, OASD(HA); Kelley, Joseph, CTR, OSD-ATL; Smith, Jack, Dr., OASD(HA); [email protected] Sent: Wed Mar 12 00:08:53 2008 Subject: Lyme in the Military
Sir,
I have lists upon lists of people who have come to me because the Military physicians will only treat them according to the IDSA guidelines. Yes, they do get medical care, but it's inadequate at best. The IDSA's guidelines exclude all scientific data pointing to Lyme in it's Chronic stage. Because of this, the IDSA is being investigated by Atty. Gen. Blumenthal of Connecticut for violations of anti-trust law, and exclusionary conduct in forming their guidelines.
Sadly, when our Military physicians are asked give further treatment based on the very effective ILADS guidelines, the patients are refused based on the IDSA's guidelines. They are often referred to an Infectious Disease MD who then continues to give them the same inadequate treatment. Time and time again, this is the story I hear from our Active Duty members, their families, and our Veterans.
If it would be helpful, I can have every military member with Chronic Lyme email their personal experiences to you, just advise me of who to send them to........
Edited to correct w i d e format. Lou B
[ 15. April 2008, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: Lou B ]
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daise, thanks for the prewarning that this post went SUPER WIDE!
i'm going to REFORMAT RIGHT MARGIN so it doesn't go superwide and we NEURO LYMIES CAN READ AND COMPREHEND IT! bettyg
if i accomplish it, could you delete your super wide one and show the NORMAL WIDTH one i'm redoing below; then I'll delete it so we don't have 2 right under each other?
i,bettyg, have broken this up as MAJOR INFO was buried in some of these long paragraphs written by Colleen, I believe a non-lyme patient; not knowing the difficulties we have!! I take full responsibility for doing this; breaking it up!
my new pc/lymenet will NOT let me bold individual words like before; so i've shown ** on MOST IMPORTANT INFO! bettyg
thanks my active vet friend!! YES, THIS IS IMPORTANT!!*****************
quote:Originally posted by daise: Everyone!
This is an urgent reminder to everyone that they need to contact the individuals below with their medical needs and concerns regarding their Lyme infections. If you don't ask for ILADS treatment, you won't receive it!
We need them to see how many of us are being turned away and not given adequate treatment.
Respectfully request ILADS based treatment. *********************************************
Research Assistant to Dr. Burrascano, MD Founder, Military Lyme Support Moderator, MT Lyme Support, AK Lyme Support CALDA, ESLDA, ILADS, LDA, LDPR, TTC ><>��:*�`����`*:���:*�`� � ��`*:���:*�`����`*:��<><
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Hi everyone,
I've been trying to get the word out to our top medical officials about the lack of care at the Military Treatment Facilities for Lyme and it's co-infections.
Please send your brief story and contact info ASAP to:***************************************
** and if you've ever requested ILADS treatment and been refused by your military doctors.
Please make it short and sweet.... ******************************
as they're wondering "how many" are having/had problems.
Also, be sure you are 100% respectful at all times, and address him accordingly. ****************************************
I've been assured that he is an honorable man, trustworthy, and wanting to help us.
Also, if you could, please CC me so I can keep track of who has contacted MG Granger. ***************************************
I may need to assist with a meeting in DC in this regards, so if I can use your story, please send it my way.**********************************
Take heart! Looks like some very good things are starting to happen. Have a great day!
Colleen Nicholson
Research Assistant to Dr. Burrascano, MD Founder, Military Lyme Support Moderator, MT Lyme Support, AK Lyme Support CALDA, ESLDA, ILADS, LDA, LDPR, TTC ><>��:*�`����`*:���:*�`� � ��`*:���:*�`����`*:��<><
In a message dated 3/12/2008 10:37:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
CSM Holland the MHS is standing by and ready to assist these great Americans. Again give us the names or tell them to contact us or their local MTF. Thanks. EG
To: Granger, Elder, MG, OASD(HA)/TMA; LAWRENCE.HOLLAND; Casscells, S. Ward, Assistant Secretary of Defense, OASD(HA); Kelley, Joseph, CTR, OSD-ATL; Smith, Jack, Dr., OASD(HA); [email protected]
Sent: Wed Mar 12 00:08:53 2008
Subject: Lyme in the Military
Sir,
I have lists upon lists of people who have come to me because the Military physicians will only treat them according to the IDSA guidelines. Yes, they do get medical care, but it's inadequate at best.
The IDSA's guidelines exclude all scientific data pointing to Lyme in it's Chronic stage.
Because of this, the IDSA is being investigated by Atty. Gen. Blumenthal of Connecticut for violations of anti-trust law, and exclusionary conduct in forming their guidelines.
Sadly, when our Military physicians are asked give further treatment based on the very effective ILADS guidelines, the patients are refused based on the IDSA's guidelines.
They are often referred to an Infectious Disease MD who then continues to give them the same inadequate treatment.
Time and time again, this is the story I hear from our Active Duty members, their families, and our Veterans.
If it would be helpful, I can have every military member with Chronic Lyme email their personal experiences to you, just advise me of who to send them to........
daise, this is outstanding that colleen and dr. b are involved and have GOTTEN THIS FAR! best wishes to all of you.
daise, i'll also send this broken up NORMAL width post to my entire LYME LIST GROUP ... they may know of more VET LYMIES who could submit their stories for this SPECIAL PROJECT FOR EQUAL JUSTICE for our military vets/active members of our armed forces!
may i suggest to others that they also send the broken up version to THEIR OWN LYME LIST GROUPS/SUPPORT GROUP MEMBERS, ETC! we can really get the word out quick on this then!! WELL DONE EVERYONE! Bettyg
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I'm sorry, BettyG, but she asked that it be printed as is. Is it OK to leave both?
Is that OK for you to read, BettyG? Will it print-out OK?
I'm not good at this. I was a mac person for 19 years, now new to an old IBM.
Thanks, Lou, but the version you sent back to me printed the same, above. Oh well. It's POSTED! Yay!
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daise, YES, we'll leave both versions! ****************************************
i have no idea about printing out; hubby is sleeping; i don't want to wake him up!! he tolerates me on here IF I'M QUIET! shush... later, very busy here!
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daise,
i forgot to ask, are you going to post in medical, activism, off topic, and show the link to come here to reply! these are our 4 main areas, and some NEVER go to any other one!
I just got as far as I think I will get with those listed above.
I recieved a final phone call from the head of tricare yesterday.
He said that Tricare will not pay for Lyme treatment in anyway. He talked to the head of the clinic here and they decided together that I needed a second opinion from a different Infectious Disease doctor.
The second ID duck is from Walter Reed, mind you they refused to see me when I first tested possitive.
Second he said since policy is not going to change before my first LLMD appointment, he would recomend that I keep my appointment but I need to understand that it will not be covered.
So I dont know, I will continue to do what I need to do.
Hope everyone is doing well!
-------------------- PROUD : )
Dx: Lyme & Bart April 2008. currently on plaquanil, Roxid and Sulfameth. Posts: 89 | From Manalapan, NJ | Registered: Feb 2008
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daise
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Proudtoserve,
I'm so sorry they're getting nasty.
Perhaps you could contact especially Major Granger back to tell him what happened.
There are things moving in the military, but what happens when certain people--especially doctors--are too stubborn to listen?
For all your struggles, I'll bet it will help others who come behind you.
For you: Do you have an LLMD? I posted meds help yesterday on the Medical forum at:
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daise, i encouraged GWVET to come here to read and get involved; hope they find this too!
proud to serve; sorry about all the crap you're getting in trying to get PAID FOR treatments since you were bitten during your ACTIVE MILITARY SERVICE!
has MCCAIN been thru your state yet for election primaries? if NO, perhaps you can get word to him about your situation making him aware being a former military/POW ???
have you tried YOUR STATE'S FEDERAL SENATORS/HOUSE REPS? i'd use every door open to me to sound off. best wishes on overcoming ALL the obstacles you have endured.
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From Colleen, Military Lyme Support, Yahoo.com
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Hello to all,
I had a very good conversation with Dr. Jack Smith, and was encouraged that we may still be able to make a "believer" out of him yet.
He's genuine in his concern, but needs a lot more info.
What I basically have to do is try to convince him there is such a thing as Chronic Lyme by sending him good abstracts from respected journals.... which we have already.
I'm going to ask my doctors to help me with this, as their brain works much better than mine, and they can be quite convincing.
Unfortunately, we are still unable to get ILADS treatment at the Military Treatment Facilities, because the process to change policy is a slow one at best.
So, with that being said, I will continue to find you civilian LLMD's in your local area to get treatment. I'm also going to work with ILADS and ask them to at least sign up to be on the Tricare Provider's List.
Then even if our ILADS docs don't "accept assignment" we'll at least be able to get reimbursed for office visits, and such.
The best thing we can do NOW is to continue to support the legislation that the LDA has worked so hard for.
We only have a little time left before this dies in the house and senate, so let's get going! and please be encouraged.
The gentlemen in Health Affairs that are leading us have good hearts, and are willing to listen, which is so much more than we've had in the past.
If they're willing to listen, then they can learn.
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daise, i'm listening to toronto, canadA'S OLDIES RADIO show AM740, they announced earlier their govt. had discussed their post traumatic stress military would be getting help, etc. i just caught bits/pieces of this as i was concentrating on my typing.
at least canada is doing things for their vets/active military.
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