MADDOG
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I hate politics but.
I have no health care!!!!!!!!!!!
I was a certifyed staunch republican for 35 years.
I was one of the original militia dudes back in the gun ban era.
When i could work, like 38 years I had my health insurance slowly become NO insurance,coopayments got so bad i couldent NOT even use it USELESS it was.
While rich insurance people lived in luxury.
THIS President wants to cutoff the rich roll in doe insurance theifs.
But OH no my past party who acted like retards while gas got so expensive that auto companies got bankrupted,and got in a war in a place were we had no business going!!!!
Are now destroying the only chance people who are not millionars have to get health care.
Just to kill the presidents bill for their rich insurance buddies while sounding a false cry to the melitia Black hating people as a way to kill health care that is not to line the pockets of the rich.
They are using the black haters to kill a good plan.
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It isn't just black haters, it is people who are so partisan, who treat legislation like it was a football game, that they won't support any plan the other side likes. They think that if they prevent the health care reform, they will win.
Too bad for the country when this happens. I have a feeling there are more who would support a genuine reform if it were correctly explained and the liars were not so vocal. But even if they did suppport it, their reps in Congress might only listen to lobbyists and rich corporations and ignore their constituents.
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LisaS
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Today on Good Morning America they said they were one step closer to agreeing on a plan. Let's cross our fingers! I think President Obama is working hard and there's so many people against him. I don't get it.
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Regardless of the outcome it is not going to help us with lyme though :/
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"Regardless of the outcome it is not going to help us with lyme though :/ "
Nice attitude Coltman. What about those of us who don't have insurance, and who can't get insurers to cover us w/out paying an ungodly fee, IF it is even considered?
I expect to be helped by this. I NEED this, many do.
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How much more expensive and dangerous does the health care picture need to be before Congress wakes up and does the right thing?
Congress people who make this issue political are shameful excuses for representatives of the people in their states, let alone our whole country. The rest of the world must find us very stupid and very entertaining.
I was glad to hear the President's speech and thought he left lots of doors open to compromise which is the answer to all Congressional conflicts.
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I am not overly enthusiastic about current healthcare bill. It is not primarily aimed at the benefit of the people.
Its a cop-out, with many provisions in there specifically to benefit commercial healthcare providers and other corporate entities (pharma, insurance).
With corporate lobbyism so ingrained in current legislative branch its not possible to have other bills passed.
Government regulations end up working for big monopolistic corporations , not against them.
Check FDA for example. Their sole purpose nowdays is to ensure biggest pharma companies get their market dominance with their expensive patented drugs, while they are working hard to bar any competition from overseas or generics
Drugs are most expensive in US and FDA protectionism is one of the main causes.
What happens is US that federal regulations overtime are crooked in such way that they corner market in hands of a few powerful rich corporations. You can witness this process everywhere - energy , defense , telecommunication, agriculture and ,yes, healthcare.
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No... we do not live in a perfect world. It never has been and I don't expect it to happen anytime soon either.
What I DO expect is that something will change. Will it make everyone happy? Not likely. That is an impossibility anyway.
Will it save lives? Yes.
I am not about the debate. I have neither the time nor energy for that. I am for the patient who suffers and dies due to little or no healthcare. To me, that is unacceptable.
So, personally, I chose to remain realistic AND hopeful... it is possible, you know?
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quote: What I DO expect is that something will change.
Will "something" change ? -Absolutely yes. Will it be for any better? - most probably no. I like english saying "be careful what you wish for". What you think will happen and what actually happens are often very different things
quote: Will it save lives? Yes.
Highly doubt that. I dont think it will change overall picture in a positive way. Most likely it will stay the same.
quote: I am not about the debate. I have neither the time nor energy for that. I am for the patient who suffers and dies due to little or no healthcare. To me, that is unacceptable.
People rarely die in US because of " no healthcare". There are many deaths/suffering/lost income caused by horrible medical system overall , but not because there is absolutely no access for acute cases.
One always can go to ER -because of EMTALA(another 'wonderful' regulation) they cant refuse you.
And if you think situation will be any better with proposed health "reform" I think you need think more about it - what are current drivers of healthcare costs, what are inefficiencies in the system and how the bill actually addresses them (hint not very well)
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The president paints a pretty picture. But inevitably we will end up with the same socialized medicine that they have in the UK and in Canada.
Do I think something needs to change....Yes. I have so much compassion for those that can't afford insurance and do believe they should have better options.
But I happen to be one of the 80% of people with private insurance that actually like their insurance. Is it perfect? No. But I don't want the government in charge of my health.
Over time the government will take over and private insurance companies will fade out, they can't compete with the government; and at some point when it comes to that, we won't have a choice. When it gets to a point where you don't have a choice, I call that socialism.
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MADDOG
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The health care systen we have is just like the big banks before they crashed and burned.
WORTHLESS, BULGING ,RICH PEOPLE.
They health ins, corps need to be scraped ,the sooner the better.
This system doesen;t work,the fox in the hin house it is.
Public option is the only answer!!!!!!!!
It is allready over for millions of people who have no health ins..
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Southerngirl, do you plan to use social security or medicare when the time comes? If you lose your insurance for some reason, will that change your mind? If your insurance that you are so happy with decides not to cover your lyme treatment anymore, and you need IV, will that be OK? Suppose someone in your family needed social security disability, would you be opposed to applying?
Stop throwing "socialism" at every attempt to improve the system. This is mindless name calling. Your compassion for people without insurance is pretty useless to them.
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sadly, i don't think it will help us get good lyme tx. they will follow the idsa guidelines etc
but-it may help some get regular health care that they can't afford.
over the years i have found it very helpful to deal with health issues not related to lyme with traditional medicine. it lowered my pain and increased my function
deep down i believe lyme probably did casue my arthritis...but traditional docs got me out of my wheelchair with new knees and i can use my hands better than before with carpel tunnel and trigger release sugeries
my allergies and strep throats get covred and that leaves me with more money to put toward lyme tx
what scares me more-and i know this belongs on another thread-is if/when they stop us from buying herbs and supplements
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Very good points Kayak,
Most of us w/out any insurance can't afford any sort of additional healthcare. And when you have been dealing with TBDs for SO long- a LOT of things tend to head south. When that happens, some band-aids are needed to cover other issues while the main issues are being addressed.
But without extra money for band-aids, things get much worse... and it becomes a vicious cycle!
Personally, I have spent so much out of pocket on treatment the last 6 1/2 years, that the normal preventative stuff has taken a back seat. This is a choice NO ONE should have to make.
How I would love to get a pap, or my eyes checked, or teeth cleaned, or to even be able to afford steady required blood work or other meds I should be on but can't be on because they are not affordable...
for me, and for SO many others (40 MILLION), this is simply NOT an option.
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"People rarely die in US because of " no healthcare". There are many deaths/suffering/lost income caused by horrible medical system overall , but not because there is absolutely no access for acute cases.
One always can go to ER -because of EMTALA(another 'wonderful' regulation) they cant refuse you."
This is not completely true, Coltman. I hear ALL the time from those IN the industry about people who are turned away from the ER because they either have NO insurance, or the ER is too full to take them.
And why are our ERs full? Because too many people can't afford preventative healthcare. They are going to acute care for something that is not an emergency OR their wait was too long for a PCP, and what may have been taken care of easily is now something that has become an emergency.
In the meantime, people w/out insurance who are on the verge of bankruptcy due to a health issue, have decided to not go to the ER because they can not afford another 6 grand. This is a deadly decision for many.
If you are not aware of this, you really need to pay more attention to patient stories.
TBDs present with both acute and chronic issues. Go ahead and ask how many have made emergency visits during their treatments and recoveries. Then ask how many actually were helped while in the ER.
I do not negate that the business of medicine is what drives this problem. It has become all about turn-over and costly overhead to cover administration and other expenses NOT even related to patient care. That is well known.
However, when you speak to the healthcare providers, the physicians and nurses in the trenches... they are just as upset about this as patients are. They do not appreciate being regulated either. Nor do they feel that they are doing the best job possible when quotas have to be filled.
Nothing is ever black or white... there are MANY shades of grey here. If the answer were easy, the issue would have been solved a long time ago.
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quote:If you are not aware of this, you really need to pay more attention to patient stories.
Well I used to read medical blogs from ER Nurses/docs and paramedics (such as this http://allbleedingstops.blogspot.com/) , . The major refrain by them is EMTALA abuse by non paying patients (including medicare/medicaid ones) , plethora of unnecessary and expensive tests done on them to avoid lawsuits and malpractice charges .
Plenty of resources wasted on keeping practically dead people in ICU. Heck I used to dragon boat with a few nurses - they told me in person all same things. One quit working in ICU exactly because of the issues of keeping dead bodies alive for no reason... Those issues drives hospitals out buisiness for real
I also spoke personally with a few immigrants illegally in the country (I am immigrant too btw) , some of them been illegal for 10+ years and with their whole family they did not have any access to healthcare besides ER which they used, giving false names ( I am ambivalent about their abuse as they were really hard working but sometimes you simply can not afford insurance as was with their case )
I also personally had not have healthcare for 5 of my first years in US and lost it a few times when I lost full time job (I could not afford paying $500/month out of pocket after being fired)
I also know a then uninsured guy (he was working on hourly basis without benefits) who fell on the street and lost consciousness he ended up in ER. They did (CT scan, MRI , physical eval and some blood work up). They billed him $15k for 2 hours of work- up
So I am very familiar with situation on that side of life. So well informed ,thank you.
quote: This is not completely true, Coltman. I hear ALL the time from those IN the industry about people who are turned away from the ER because they either have NO insurance, or the ER is too full to take them.
If hospital accepts medicare they can not refuse patient -EMTALA law. I am not aware of "too full" - from what I read paramedics obligated to deliver patient till someone accepts thim
quote: And why are our ERs full? Because too many people can't afford preventative healthcare. They are going to acute care for something that is not an emergency OR their wait was too long for a PCP, and what may have been taken care of easily is now something that has become an emergency.
True.
quote: In the meantime, people w/out insurance who are on the verge of bankruptcy due to a health issue, have decided to not go to the ER because they can not afford another 6 grand. This is a deadly decision for many.
True again.
quote: Nothing is ever black or white... there are MANY shades of grey here. If the answer were easy, the issue would have been solved a long time ago.
Thats why I am not so optimistic about the reform. It does not properly addresses all nuances and drawbacks of the current system, I believe it is just paint job over creases and holes
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MADDOG
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Hi Gang,
Today I cancled my regular check up with my urologist,it would cost 100$.
I am 54 the avarage age of prostate cancer in my family is 55.
So I can't afford ,my digital test and my PSI this time,while SS screwes me arround on my reconsideration.
If I loose this reconsideration it will be 2 years till I win with the judge,then you dont get medicare till 2 years lator that is 4 years of no health care.
By then my prostate canser will be inoperable,they will have to make my faviorite part into a tuna can, and i will die a horrible death.
Murdered by SS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If that happens i guarante i will, well you wouldent want to be a employee of,a ohio determination .something service.
OH BUT WE DONT WANT A HEALTH care SYSTEM!!!
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Maddog IS Mad.. and with good reason.
So sorry Maddog!!!
This is NOT how it should be in the USA. For anyone!
You've paid taxes all your life... some of which goes to pay Congress reps to work FOR you.
I've not heard of a Congressmen having major problems with their health care.. and YOU are paying for their health care.
So, to me it is especially sad that the people they represent must suffer and die because they don't have access to the same care that we foot the bills for.
Interesting side note-
If you are called up for jury duty, you can be rejected if you or any close relatives have had any claims against insurance companies in the past. (Car accident, etc)
The "gist" is....
Most people who have had to file an insurance claim are unhappy with the outcome and, more often than not, they have been burned by their insurance provider in their time of need..
So having people with those life experiences supposedly "taints" their perspective and objectivity ...
And if you fit that scenario, you can be disqualified because you might make an award too high for the victim.
Also, in some situations, if the word "insurance" is even mentioned by a witness, there will be a mistrial declared...
Even though most jurors are smart enough to realize in a car accident there usually is auto insurance involved (mandated by law), the word is not allowed to be mentioned.
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Maddog,
Sorry you had to cancel that appointment for your cancer prevention tests. "IF" you hurry,,,you can still make it here.
Monday is a "FREE" clinic for just such a visit. Did I forget to say I LIKE the word "FREE",,,being also without health insurance (and scared to death of it)and without even a doc that sees me and knows my track record.
See ya here Monday!!
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MADDOG
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Just Don,If I had the bucks to get there??
Well Diesel would easily cost as much as the doctor visit.
WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here are some people who have never been sick in their lives.
"Stop throwing "socialism" at every attempt to improve the system. "
Lou, it is socialism. You assume that this healthcare bill is going to improve the system. You are hopeful because you do not have insurance and you believe this will provide you with the care you need.
Would you feel the same way if you had health insurance, and the government was going to take away your money (in taxes) to pay for everyone else's medical issues?
I don't believe that treatment will be available for Lyme Disease sufferers under the new program. After all, if we can't get proper treatment now, we won't get it under a government run program.
Make no mistake, the government won't be providing your health care, the taxpayers will be the ones providing it. The government will regulate it however, and I've never known that to go well.
Also, the health care issue isn't simple. Many people who don't have health care are wasting their money that should go to health care on luxuries and addictions.
One such instance, a woman complaining in one breath she couldn't afford health insurance, then going on to tell me she didn't get a good enough settlement in court for a fall, didn't even pay for her flip flops which were $110. (I didn't even know flip flops could cost that much.)
Unfortunately, we live in a country where everyone thinks they deserve the best of everything, and have no problem with someone else paying for it.
I believe that Southerngirl is right. We will end up with lousy healthcare just like England and Canada.
I've been informed that in England, after age 55 if you come in with a heart attack they send you home to die. A friend of a friend just came from England to America so he could get a stent. He was 59.
I know Canadians who come to America for their medical care because the wait is too long in Canada.
I'm sure it will be the same here, and I'm not looking forward to it.
I think you will find that human nature will take over in this. Many who don't have health insurance will be for the government program as it will improve their situation.
Many who will be paying for the health care reform via their taxes will be against it as they are tired of losing their hard earned money to pay for everyone else, and it will damage them financially.
I also believe the government will end up deciding what health care we can and cannot have, instead of our doctors deciding. Not a pretty situation.
Having the government in charge of health care is a very scary proposition to me. I'm encouraging my representatives to vote against it.
-------------------- Wishing You Showers Of Blessings! Lyme since Fall 1983 = Diagnosed Summer 2008 IV Rocephin 7 weeks Stopped due to drug fever Now doxycycline "For I know the plans I have for you...plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 Posts: 430 | From Sunny South | Registered: Jul 2008
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"Many who will be paying for the health care reform via their taxes will be against it as they are tired of losing their hard earned money to pay for everyone else, and it will damage them financially."
This assumes that everyone w/out insurance for whatever reason, does not pay taxes... not true. Many, like myself, pay just as many taxes as others, but are also paying full price for healthcare, when it can be afforded.
The truth is that none of us know what the new programs are going to look like. How could we when they are still in the works?
Those with insurance that they are pleased with are upset based on a fear that may or may not manifest... understandable.
Those w/out are hopeful for some sort of coverage... again understandable.
But is it really helpful to point fingers that cast negative dispersions on ALL in either category? That sort of generalization only increases polarity and is usually not accurate.
I am certain that there are incidences of abuse on both ends, however this is not how the majority behaves.
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Melanie, I was not assuming that everyone without health care does not pay taxes, but thank you for pointing out that it may seem like that.
I was simply pointing out, perhaps poorly, that human nature being what it is... the majority of people tend to desire what is most beneficial to them personally.
That also is understandable. Fortunately, not everyone fits into the majority.
-------------------- Wishing You Showers Of Blessings! Lyme since Fall 1983 = Diagnosed Summer 2008 IV Rocephin 7 weeks Stopped due to drug fever Now doxycycline "For I know the plans I have for you...plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 Posts: 430 | From Sunny South | Registered: Jul 2008
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"Melanie, I was not assuming that everyone without health care does not pay taxes, but thank you for pointing out that it may seem like that."
Its OK... I am sure you weren't trying to say that everyone w/out insurance is a dead beat addicted moocher with poor spending habits. (I don't even like flip-flops)
"I was simply pointing out, perhaps poorly, that human nature being what it is... the majority of people tend to desire what is most beneficial to them personally."
I do agree with this statement. However... my feeling though is that what is happening now may not be the most beneficial- even to those who are pleased with their current situations.
As you pointed out- we are all paying way too many taxes to keep this system going. The costs of current healthcare practices are outrageous. So, when you think about it... How is that the 'most beneficial' to anyone?
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Maddog,
More specificly I point out,,I realize you cant come Monday,,,
I say that with hoping YOU can find a similiar program there.
I found it by reading the newspaper,,,as outdated as THAT is!!
I see lots of ads every now and then offering same screen at health fairs for like 35 bucks
I dont know where you should LOOK there,but sure there are discounted programs for the asking.
Might have to travel a smidge to a large enough town to offer same.
ask around at your hospitals of choice there,they may know a source of contact.
try googling health fairs upcoming in local larger cities
All else fails,,,read the newspaper,,,even if its recycled a time or two!!'somebody' has old papers for the asking
Even a 35 dollar fee is alot lower than a full rate doc visit!!
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"Its OK... I am sure you weren't trying to say that everyone w/out insurance is a dead beat addicted moocher with poor spending habits. (I don't even like flip-flops) "
No, Melanie, I wasn't saying that. What I said was... "Many people who don't have health care are wasting their money that should go to health care on luxuries and addictions."
Many, not most or all. That is a true statement. You, however, chose to pervert my words and add your own embellishments.
Therefore, we shall have to simply agree to disagree.
I believe that government run health care will be more detrimental than our current system. I accept that your opinion differs.
-------------------- Wishing You Showers Of Blessings! Lyme since Fall 1983 = Diagnosed Summer 2008 IV Rocephin 7 weeks Stopped due to drug fever Now doxycycline "For I know the plans I have for you...plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 Posts: 430 | From Sunny South | Registered: Jul 2008
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Cottonbrain, I like your name. I feel the same way sometimes.
Canadians often wait 6 months for medical attention that we receive here within a week.
I am sorry to hear about your friend who passed away from heart problems. I was of the understanding that a hospital receiving government funds cannot refuse treatment.
In fact, I personally know a couple that received all the care they needed, and sent $50 a month to the hospital until they passed away. They both had arterial disease, and he had two amputations. So very expensive health care.
I was told the story about England's situation by a very good friend who is English/American, with many relatives living in England. So I believe it to be accurate.
I do wish there was a means by which the whole mess could be fixed, but I don't believe socialized medicine is the answer.
I respect the fact that you disagree, and wish you well.
-------------------- Wishing You Showers Of Blessings! Lyme since Fall 1983 = Diagnosed Summer 2008 IV Rocephin 7 weeks Stopped due to drug fever Now doxycycline "For I know the plans I have for you...plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 Posts: 430 | From Sunny South | Registered: Jul 2008
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Melanie Reber, you are the voice of reason! I think you see both sides and I'm always interested to read your posts.
My best friend is from Germany but moved here and liked the care over there better. Another friend that I met on here, said she is saving every penny to go back to where she is from ( I won't say where in case it is obvious whom I'm talking about.)
I'm sure you can find good/bad stories on either side of this issue. I have worked my whole life in health care. Not once, was I offered insurance at any of my healthcare jobs. Not once!
So I hope the President can come up with a plan to make most people be able to get insurance. I hope those of you who like their insurance can keep it and those of us who don't have the luxury of insurance can get it.
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"I believe that government run health care will be more detrimental than our current system. I accept that your opinion differs."
I think we all eventually need to accept that opinions will differ. They will be as unique and individual as each perspective that voices them.
I apologize if you took exception to my 'perverted words' they were NOT intended to insult you or upset you at all. Please forgive me if they did. Obviously, this is a touchy and personal subject to which we each have a stake in the outcome for various reasons.
I believe that most people want to make amends when mistakes have been made.
I believe that most people do the right thing if given a choice.
I believe that most people work hard and play by the rules.
I believe that most people think that if they are 'good honest citizens', that their government will take care of them, because most people in govt also want to do the right thing.
Now... does this mean that we turn a blind eye on things and hand over our voices or votes? No, of course not. What it does mean to me, is that it IS possible to work together when the best is assumed.
Perhaps this is insanely naive... but it has pretty much worked for me for 45 years. Yes, these are assumptions and generalizations. And yes, there are exceptions.
What really doesn't work for me is when people make assumptions and generalizations of wrong doing about me or others... that assume the worst... based on circumstances beyond our control or based on a few exceptions of irresponsible behavior.
Lisa, thank you for the kind comments, I really DO tend to see both sides, and that is precisely why I normally pay attention to my better nature... and stay completely OUT of issues such as these. Knowing that it is very difficult to 'read' some intentions behind words and very easy to get caught up in the emotional vortex of words.
I'm sure I have made my point by now... so I will bow out of this conversation before I get myself into any further trouble. In fact, I really need to continue packing because ironically, as it turns out, I am only one of many facing bankruptcy and a move due to prolonged and increasingly unaffordable healthcare expenses.
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MM said... "Lou, it is socialism."
BIG question... Is then Medicare, Medicaid and Veterans Benefits socialized medicine?
If so, those who have been helped by those programs should be made to pay it all back!
So, get off that rocker Grandma and get to work!
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MM said.. "You assume that this healthcare bill is going to improve the system. You are hopeful because you do not have insurance and you believe this will provide you with the care you need."
When I was without health care for years... after working hard and paying taxes for years on end.. and my insurance company that had been paid premiums for years was not wanting to pay...
And after losing my home, my job and all I owned and loved to medical bills...
Government health care stepped in and saved my life. I was FINALLY able to get some health care... and recover.
I appreciated it very much... still do.
And I am glad it was there when I was destitute... and I am glad others will be able to get health care if they are sick... and not have to get to the point that I was at before Medicare stepped in.
Is that wrong?
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MM said... "Would you feel the same way if you had health insurance, and the government was going to take away your money (in taxes) to pay for everyone else's medical issues?"
To answer the question... I have health insurance (besides Medicare) ... always have.
And...
If someone is in need, I feel the decent and honorable thing to do is to give, so they can receive what is needed.
I couldn't live with myself otherwise.
If my taxes went to help people who would suffer without that help, may my taxes FINALLY be used for something that is vital to someone's life, health and happiness...
And I would gladly pay more to help them if it was necessary.
MM said.. "I don't believe that treatment will be available for Lyme Disease sufferers under the new program. After all, if we can't get proper treatment now, we won't get it under a government run program."
Actually, I had not one, not two but THREE insurances that should have paid for my health care and for my expenses related to Lyme disease.
They didn't.
They burned me as they have burned so many before me. I nearly died from lack of treatment... while all three insurances refused to pay. (The courts finally MADE them.. but not before I was permanently disabled because of lack of treatment).
BUT.. Medicare did take care of my health care needs ... and my Lyme treatment.... when every one else failed me.
To note- I didn't see anywhere that Lyme disease treatment would be something excluded from President Obama's proposed health care plan.
Is that stated in the bill somewhere?
Actually, I know it isn't.
My point... scare tactics and promoting things that just aren't true, for whatever reason, doesn't seem right.
People ARE getting medical care with government run programs .... and as a result...
I don't have to wear wool undies or trudge through snow barens to go to my neighbors home ... or march in the town square under a dictatorship... or be part of the Communist Party....
And I can even speak my mind, even though it isn't appreciated much.
Things are badly broken in this insurance world we live in. They need to be fixed.
Fat cats sit back and are getting fatter as people suffer.
Thank goodness we have a President who knows it and is trying to do something about it.
After all, he had a mother he watched as she was suffering through insurance problems.
I believe his heart is in the right place... and he is doing the best he can.
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