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nefferdun
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I need some support. I could literally live on nothing but bread and cheese. I am going to give it up for a month to see if there is any improvement in my brain function.

Good grief, what do I eat instead! I am feeling withdrawals already.

But if I post my resolve here maybe I will be able to follow through with this test to see what happens. Is a month long enough?

Here it goes. Day one.

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old joke: idiopathic means the patient is pathological and the the doctor is an idiot

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its worth the investment to buy some gluten free cook books. my experiance is positive with it. be patient and dont cheat.

when your month is up pig out on glutten and see how much it affects u. good luck

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misdiagnosed for 19yrs until 2007 and trying to be positive for the future

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There are plenty of answers out there. As I asked this question about two months ago.

Do a search for gluten-free.

I went gluten, wheat, dairy and sugar free and it was not working for me after two months.

I was starving all the time and miserable.

I am super skinny already and lost about 4 pounds in a little over a week-not good.

I bought a ton of gluten-free products and switched to rice milk/coconut milk.

Being the only one in the family using those milk products I ended up throwing away more than using due to going bad.

I was basically living off of chicken and vegs which got old after awhile.

I have switched things a bit now.

I do consume dairy-only plain Greek yogurt and cottage cheese.

I usually eat a bowl of gluten-free cereal and use organic fat-free cow's milk.

I figure it's only a small amount and I need the dairy for my bones-osteoporisis runs in the family.

As far as sugar goes, I just watch my sugar intake and keep it as low as possible.

I tried many different gluten-free breads and
love Udi's bread (about $5 a loaf) and they even make a granola that's very tasty.$1 off bread coupon on their site. http://udisglutenfree.com/ppc-gluten-free-udis/?jkId=8a8ae4cc2bf6559a012c0930d2b91c9f&jt=1&jadid=7463834253&js=1&jk=udi's%20gluten%20free&jsid=22255&jmt=1&&gclid=CIr0_pKjg6cCFcbc4A odtj8mfQ

If I want to sweeten my yogurt I add a pinch of granola-just enough to add some flavor/crunch without too much sugar.

For breakfast I've been eating Eco-Planet organic hot plain cereal with flax seed added, 1 egg scrambled in coconut oil, two slices of nitrate free ham or turkey and one slice of Udi's bread with coconut oil on it.

Nature's Path makes very good gluten-free cereals.http://www.naturespath.com/eat-well/gluten-free-celiac-diet

For other snacks I eat-
air popped popcorn
raw vegs and hummus
hard boiled egg
celery and organic pbutter (many will say no to pb)
cashews

I also eat plenty of steamed, sauteed vegs with chicken or turkey

Quinoa as a side is good and they even make a quinoa flakes for a hot cereal.

I occasionally throw in a sweet potato as a side.

I don't know feel that going gluten-free has helped me other than with a face rash.

Once I stopped the wheat/gluten free the face rash I've had for years disappeared.

I strayed around Christmas and ate all the bad stuff-wheat/gluten and the rash reappeared.

You'll get plenty of advice here. Good luck.

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nefferdun
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I don't feel I have any symptoms of allergy. I just have memory and focus problems. This was developing before the tick bite so it is not all related to lyme.

Your diet is similar to mine one4. I do not eat any sugar or red meat. I do eat some chicken and fish and am trying to incorporate more vegan into my life - which is hard.

When my adult son was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes I was in a panic about food allergies which can cause autoimmune destruction of the beta cells in the pancreas. I eliminated the milk and glutten to try to inspire him to do the same. Neither one of us lasted a week.

I tried almond milk and rice milk but did not like either of them much. Then I was told the goats milk is ok to drink because it does not have the A1 beta casein in it which is what causes the allergies. I wonder if I can still drink goats milk. It is the best milk I ever had.

There are no grocery stores here that carry gluten free bread. One health food store has some frozen Udi but it is very expensive. I will have to try to make some.

I have always had very dark circles under my eyes. It will be interesting to see if that improves any.

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I didn't find that this diet has helped with my typos/mixed words.

I tried goat milk yogurt, but at $2.99 for a 5 oz cup eating one a day for a week adds up.

I tried so many gluten-free breads and Udi's was the best.

Luckily, two of our local grocery stores carry it.

I bought a gluten-free bread mix for the bread machine but haven't tried it yet.

I am sure you'll get more responses.

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I like the rice dream original in the refrigerator section. Not the kind on the shelf, they are different.

My son had a cows milk intolerance since birth and he was on goat's milk from age 15 months. It is expensive but probably the closest to real milk.

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Here is a list.. but it's more for the yeast issue.. not necessarily gluten-free or dairy free...

BUT it should give you a good beginning!!

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/3/26772?

Celiac. com ...
They have a great board and a great discussion board. I think there's a whole section on recipes. Many there are also soy, dairy, and corn intolerant. (on top of gluten)

.. Go to www.celiac.com

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If you've been eating the diet you mentioned in your first post.. then you likely have yeast issues.. so be very careful not to add to that. Many gluten free items are full of sugar.

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Nefferdun,

I think it's a great idea to try. My daughter is fully gluten and dairy free, and I am at about 95%. Her mental capacity and concentration have improved DRAMATICALLY.

It's super easy, once you get past the learning curve which lasts a couple of weeks. The easiest way to transition is to remember that MOST natural food is gluten and dairy free!

Meat
Fish
Poultry
Fruit
Vegetables
Nuts
Beans
Eggs

My daughter often uses rice cakes instead of bread to make a sandwich.

Just stick with the food in its natural state (like, not breaded or gravies) and you should fly!

A couple of gluten free substitutes are OK, but they are usually sugary and not too healthy. But I bought a bunch for my daughter to help her transition, e.g. Enjoy Life cookies, Udi Bread

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It is day 2 and I am sticking with it.

I made a berry crisp last night with very little honey and gluten free flours. It was so good I ate nearly the whole thing. Just now, my husband was shouting "where did it all go"! Poor man. I told him he needs to be quick as my ability to resist is limited. There is nothing I like more than berries.

Is goats milk ok? I am going to believe goats milk is fine as I love it. I need something to put in my morning cup of tea and my home made granola. Off to the store with my shopping list.

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Goat's milk might be ok, but until your body is clean from dairy, maybe you could try a substitute, such as almond milk. Then you can introduce goat's milk in small amounts, to see how you react.

Just a suggestion. It's better to be sure, I think.

As an alternative, I think Almond milk is delicous in coffee and tea. Try it, especially unsweetened vanilla, and you may like it a lot. Even my husband drinks it now in smoothies, and he is a die-hard dairy fan : )

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Don't forget about yeast!

If that granola recipe is gluten and sugar free, I want it!! [Big Grin]

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I have tried almond milk and Rice dream. I had to force myself to drink it. I love almonds but unfortunately I did not like the milk that much.

I got goats milk this morning. It is often the A1 beta casein protein in the cow's milk that causes allergies and that is not in goat's milk so most people with sensitivity to cow's milk can drink goat's milk.
I never felt sensitive anyway. I just want to be sure dairy and glutten are not contributing to my mental fog.

My LLMD;s never told me to avoid either of these but other people swear it has made a big difference. It would be nice if I see no improvement at all so I could comfortably go back to eating them. But it would be even more wonderful to get my brain function back - so I am determined to give it try.

I bought some vegan cheese this morning. Odd but not bad at all. I also got some gluten free crackers that are just like cardboard but won't be so bad with a dip - and a gluten free bread mix (because I couldn't find the bread).

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Honestly, I didn't see any difference on the GF and SF diet. Did it for two months before I started to slip. Now I'm back to eating whole grains and small amounts of sugar, while watching my tongue carefully for signs of yeast.
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Svforest, I have a feeling I am not going to see any difference too.
I do have a problem with sugar though so I gave it up 3 years ago although I still use some honey and maple syrup.

In the past when I was lax about how much honey I was eating (making things like carrot bread) I got bad yeast and increased symptoms. There is also hidden sugar I was ignoring. The worst yeast infection I ever had was followed by a daily ritual of eating Activia yogurt. That is when I went downhill with the babesia.

Wheat is very addictive for me. I can eat a whole loaf of home made whole wheat bread. I don't eat as much dairy but milk has a lot of sugar in it. I can do without dairy much easier than wheat. I do like cheese.

For me it might not be a sensitivity or allergy. It might be that I can just eat too much of it and get too much glucose.

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