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We have a local chiropractor on the forefront of Quantum Neurology. My fiance had a visit with him this morning, unrelated to Lyme, and I asked him to discuss what methods he employs.
He reprograms the brain to realize that it is not good for the body, whether it be Lyme, fungus or any pathogen.
Told my fiance not to waste our money on other treatments until we reprogram the brain that something is bad for it, otherwise, the brain will keep allowing it to cohabitate in the body.
He said the abx treatments mess up other systems in the body badly and allow other coinfections to move in more easily.
Supposedly he treats a lot of Lyme? (Whatever, his nurse didn't even know what it was when I called last week to inquire.)
Our chiropractor is very progressive, and I believe in the light therapies he does; however, I take issue with him touting his 'Lyme expertise' to my fiance who doesn't want to spend $ on anything.
I told my fiance to get Chris to program his brain that this disease is highly likely to cost us money. FRUSTRATED already that someone is planting seeds in his head that abx are bad.
Early on someone mentioned a seminar or program that a doctor can take to become ILADS trained. Can anyone refresh my memory of that? I'm going to propose it to Chris.
Does anyone here use a Quantum Neurologist to supplement their abx or naturopathic treatments?
Thanks,
GlitchyMomma
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Keebler
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- Not sure if my words will make a difference to your fiance, but (and sadly) he's in for a real wake up call.
Lyme is very complex. Even for those who deal with the stuff we can't see (psychological aspects & the yet uncharted waters), they have to understand as much as possible about the science and complexity of lyme - and all that goes WITH it.
I would not do this. I've tried so many similiar things all through the years. And, many who say they know about or treat lyme, really do not.
Looking back, I wish I could have recognized and cracked their arrogance which, at the time, was the perfect masquerade for their incompetence. I only saw the smoke & mirrors and really WANTED to get well so wasted a lot of time on some things that were futile.
Now, I do believe in the power of our minds, to a certain extent. But, that's another whole topic and it is neither quick nor easy, nor the only tool one needs for this task.
If you are looking for a complementary or integrative approach, the last thread provides an overview of the skill set to look for:
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures;
Knowing that support supplements are important, but NEVER enough alone. And knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL links, and
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
RIFE links,
BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and
LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail. -
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Keebler
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- You are perceptive about the nurse not having known about lyme. That's a good clue.
About what he said regarding abx and how they can mess us up. Yep. They can. But NOTHING is as bad as untreated lyme or some of the other serious infections and parasites that can come with ticks.
Still, because we know that abx can be hard on us, many LL doctors strongly suggest certain protective measures.
Probiotics, Liver support, etc. are absolutely essential, IMO. The last thread above details all this. -
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He does not seem very caring about you or your fiance - if he cared, he would be much more careful about making statements that may be true but have not been proven and therefore may be wrong and may keep people from necessary treatment.
Someone like that sounds to me like a profit-oriented person: trying to sell what he has, not considering what may help you the most (for example, abx that he cannot sell to you and would not profit from)
In case of Lyme, that behavior is cruel.
That is what I think.
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Listen to Keebler. I think she understands very well the issues of antibiotics vs alternative therapies. If the nurse doesn't even know what lyme disease is, do you really have any confidence whatsoever in that office???
I, too, have tried just about everything in the past 22 years. My best friend was a naturopath who introduced me to so many modalities of healing. But a chance sepsis infection landed me in the hospital with two daily IV antibiotics for 6 weeks. For the first time in many years I was out of a wheelchair! My speech started back up and I could read a book, go for a walk! Everyone said "It was a miracle" and no one tested me for lyme, even after I developed a rash all over my body.
I got up to a mile a day of walking and began the long road of rehabilitation. But gradually I began to backslide. My speech became halting and I was too tired to get up. My persistent husband found the sophisticated testing that found the lyme disease and he found me a well known and respected LLMD.
I have been on oral abx for the past two years and am remarkably better. I can read anything and my speech is fine unless I am tired. I am still not well enough to live a normal life and that is why I am planning to begin a year of IV Rocephan, as soon as we can figure out how to get it and pay for it.
I get regular liver function tests, take excellent probiotics and supplements, avoid sugar and junk food, stay well hydrated and just use plain common sense. And I am lucky enough to have an incredible, smart and very funny husband! Laughter is great medicine, too!
The only alternative therapy I use these days is IMT (Integrated Manual Therapy). I get it at the hospital rehab center. It is a very gentle massage that gets things moving and helps me get rid of the dead bacteria that are responsible for the inflammation in my body. I have no idea how it works, but it certainly does!
I am writing today because I had the therapy yesterday so my energy level is higher. Even my normally white face has color in it and I am thinking quite clearly for a change. I go twice a week and it is paid for by Medicare.
The therapist warned me that the herxing may get worse with the IV Rocephan but that they will help me handle it with the IMT. They have other lyme patients on IV abx who come there for treatment.
I think antibiotics get a bad rap because people, including doctors, do not understand how to work with them. Bacteria that cross the blood brain barrier can do terrible things to the body and can affect all organs. I was told I had an autoimmune disease and that my thyroid had to be removed. It was. At Stanford.
But now we realize that the bacteria in my brain were affecting my body in many ways and that we had to find antibiotics that could deal with them. Then we had to deal with the dieoff of the millions of bacteria that had been growing inside me all of these years.
My husband is a well known and respected scientist. He has had long, very technical discussions with our doctor. He believes that bacteria are responsible for many things attributed to "autoimmune" and other disorders. They talk about stem cell therapy being the cutting edge of conquering disease. Then I glaze over because I cannot follow their discussions.
I have a good mind and powerful will power. I think that is partly why I am still alive. My mother died of ALS, but we all believe that it was simply untreated lyme disease. Doctors replaced her heart valves, her hips...but never tested her for bacterial infections such as lyme. I have identical symptoms, but I am certainly not going to die of ALS!!!
So do your homework, stay away from quacks and keep in touch with all of us. This is a wonderful place to learn and to share experiences.
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