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There ARE deaths of children. I heard 12. Not sure which school. I thought it was the Plaza Towers School. This makes me cry.
My husband is on his way home through some strong storms north of us. I hope it's not too bad. (this system is the same one coming across from OK)
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WHY OH WHY weren't these children protected somehow!! I can't get past that it was reported that they knew the storm was coming but they didn't let them out early.
Somebody please tell me why the deaths if any of these were children were not preventable??? I am just sooo upset!!
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I THINK I heard that most had been picked up. The remaining kids may have had no place to go, so they stayed in the "protection" of the school.
With a tornado you may only get 5-10 minutes of warning. I think they had about 15 min warning.
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What protection??!! I read where a few kids went into a bathroom and had to be dug out from everything that fell on them. WHAT???
Surely someone could come up with some kind of a safe room when a tornado hits. We can be build skyscrapers can't we? Sorry, just sad and frustrated reading about kids getting hurt and killed.
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Most schools and homes in Oklahoma dont have safe rooms that will withstand 200 plus winds. Tornadoe shelters in what we call tornado alley should be below ground. They only had 16 minutes and thats not long enough to notify parents and get them to safety. They were huddled in hallways and interiors but it wasnt enough.
God help them but the death toll is already 51 and they said probably will go much higher
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20 of the 51 are children! Just heard it on the news.
Absolutely heartbreaking!!
The newscaster said Oklahoma has a shallow water table, so they can't build shelters underground.
Goodness, we can send men to the moon but we can't figure out THIS problem!
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I am sick of this kind of stupidity!!! Especially when children are involved. As far as I can see there is NO excuse for not planning ahead!
"We can send men to the moon" The kids were in hallways and bathrooms. Surely, they know how to build a steel room inside the school!!
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OMG I didn't see or listen to the news at all today. This is just awful. My thoughts and prayers go out to these families and parents of these kids.
Gael, I'm with you.
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Why can't they build some tornado shelters underground as part of building planning there, including for schools, and whatever else they can do it for?
Like here, everything has to be retrofitted for earthquakes.
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The tornado in Joplin was actually 3 tornadoes merged into one monster. They never got a video of it because of the rain that accompanied it. That makes it more dangerous because you don't SEE it. When you see it, you take cover!
Robin .. in many areas of OK .. (MOST) they are unable to build underground shelters due to the soil structure. Safe rooms are built but in an F5 tornado that may not even work. They say you have to be underground to survive.
Safe rooms are very expensive, but you can't put a price on your life! I know here they built some safe rooms for the schools after what happened in Joplin 2 yrs ago.
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The one school that took a direct hit survived the 200mph winds, but the other one, an elementary school was demolished and that is where the children died. Must have been the difference in the construction.
These hard hit areas need to take a more serious look at what needs to be done when building schools especially. Like you said tutu, you can't put a price on life. Spare no expense especially when it comes to our children!
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We don't send our children to school when we see a terrible snow/ice storm is eminent for that day.
This all set up weather wise. They just didn't know for sure where and when.
Maybe it's better to be safe than sorry. School days can be made up. Children lives can't.
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I feel for the teachers too. Can you imagine their worry and concern while trying to protect the children when they KNEW they might not be able to!?
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No Tutu I can't image how those teachers felt yesterday trying to keep those children safe. The teachers were as frightened as the children, yet they had to try to calm the young ones.
That's a lot of responsibility to put on someone. There's going to be a lot of post traumatic recovery for many of them.
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i heard that children drown because the water pipes burst and they were buried under rubble and couldn't get out.
one teacher died because she was laying over the children. the children lived but she didn't.
how very sad....
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I know. I was so shocked when I heard they drowned. How awful.
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There was a news article regarding the Boy Scout camp that was hit on the west edge of Iowa,,,along the Missouri River,,,I think.
3 or 4 Boyscouts were killed there a few years ago in a terrible tornado,when they had no where to hide but under a table.
They have now rebuilt the same camp with 12" concrete walls on the huge house/shelter. It was outfitted with solid steel window shutters to keep out debris.
All controlled from the inside. And hey have 2 of these huge buildings,one on each end of the camp for easy access
I agree building in a shallow water table,,,basement stuctures are out. But 12 inches of rebarred concrete WILL survive 200 to 300 mph winds.
More suspect is the type and style of doors and windows.
Sorry I mis spoke on the earlier info but news was incomplete at the time. Too much confusion down there.
From footage I have seen those kids would have been better off at the school than at any homes I saw.
When the devastation is so severe nothing helps
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