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Keebler
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Where there are lids on toilets, a good idea to CLOSE PRIOR TO FLUSHING - if there are lids, of course. Otherwise, scoot on out the door as soon as possible.

& not to hang around in rest rooms chatting or primping when toilets are being flushed as the spray can fly far into the air we breathe.

Even just to help prevent spread of common flu, etc.

And, while it's hard to avoid toilets, of course and our bladders need not to try . . . feel love for humanity and the immune system is said to do better.

Basic immune support herbs for more tender times also a nice helper in the prevention arena.

http://www.treehugger.com/bathroom-design/more-proof-we-should-change-way-we-design-bathrooms.html

More Proof That We Should Change The Way We Design Bathrooms

By Lloyd Alter - December 30, 2011
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Hospitals have a big problem, a bacterium known as Clostridium difficile. It has thrived in hospitals because it is resistant to many of the antibiotics we are so busy feeding to cows and pigs, let alone human beings who are sick and old in hospitals.

It is often spread by medical staff who don't wash their hands, but a new study shows that it may be spread by flushing toilets. . .

. . . They recommend that toilet lids be closed when one flushes. I think we should go further than that and put the toilet in its own room, the water closet.

I have noted previously the work of Dr. Charles Gerba, who wrote that a toothbrush should not be in the same room as a toilet:

There have been found over 3.2 million microbes per square inch in the average toilet bowl.

According to germ expert Chuck Gerba, PhD, a professor of environmental microbiology at University of Arizona the aerosolized toilet water is propelled as far as 6 feet, settling on your dental toothbrush inclusively. . . .

. . . Closing the lid or keeping the toothbrush in the medicine cabinet isn't enough; they should be in separate rooms. The new study just confirms it. . . . [end excerpts]


Some more recent articles talk about using copper to help prevent yet no one seems to have a perfect solution. I'm no fan of the harsh chemicals in toilets [who wants those chemicals to shoot into their lungs or eyes?] and those might not actually work as well for the "spray" that is emitted.

I like the idea of some kind of LIGHT that help neutralize germs in their tracks. A certain kind of light has been used in patient rooms to kill germs but the equipment is scare and more to learn.

Easy to make a sign for toilets at home, place on or right at the flush handle.

PLEASE CLOSE LID; THEN FLUSH


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02WuF5Jf9KU

The Science Channel - see it for yourself - a real "blue light special"

Why It's so Important to Close the Lid BEFORE flushing.

3:15 Video

They go a very disturbingly long way" . . . even over to the wall. "These drops fly about . . . ."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrrbdSqhLNM

Discovery Channel with Mike Rowe in the bathroom

Spray Back from toilet 3:33 video

[taking to the guy] "When you pee, you get this fountain of . . . spraying about . . . " far from the toilet.
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Wooooooahh... That's disgusting!

thanks for posting this Keebler!!

Good advice: close the lid BEFORE flushing!

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Gross!!! Yet much needed info, Keebler. Thanks for posting. I will now work on using my foot or getting toilet paper to close a toilet lid.

What about public restrooms with no toilet lids? Flush, hover and run out of the stall?? It sounds funny, but for real. What to do in this situation?

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I don't want people thinking it's "disgusting" as we humans really do require bathroom use and it's just something to be mindful of regarding the physics of where stuff goes.

When we think this is "disgusting" we may not be so kind in thought or attitude to others around us. It's all just natural yet we can certainly keep our breathing room in mind.


"me" - you asked about public restrooms?

Do not flush and hover. If you hover, all that spray (not just from what you leave but others before) is just going to latch onto you and go with you, all the way home.

Do not flush until you are composed and ready to exit the stall - if no chance of someone else coming into stall, go ahead and wash hands. Then go back to flush.

Take a breath, use foot to flush - keeping good balance - hold breath, turn and exit without touching surfaces.

If there is a handle on the door, use a paper towels to hold it open.

Try to use public restrooms when the capacity is not at the peak. You might also seek out the quieter ones in place you frequent.
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Thanks, Keebler. I appreciate it. No hover and running for me then. [Smile]

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Also, running in a rest room will likely result in messy fall. Those floors are very slick!

And I forgot an important consideration. After flushing, one really should check the toilet seat to be sure no drops of water are left. It's just good courtesy. So that creates a dilemma. You can flush, get out of the way and then go back and wipe down any water drops.

This helps the next person's peace of mind to not wonder if it it's toilet drops or others' urine.
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As c. diff is discussed in first link of thread, some other considerations regarding this potentially serious infection, especially in hospital settings -

- and even with some of the Rx that many people may take in their every life that could make them more at risk, to be aware:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=131809;p=0

C difficile - prevention
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