Keebler
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- STINGING NETTLE LEAF (leaf or aerial parts - not root)
Sometimes just called "Nettles"
Be sure of the part of the plant you are getting. The root is for a very different purpose for men's prostrate health - an important topic but not the focus of this thread.
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The herb, STINGING NETTLE may serve to compensate for a herxheimer reaction by calming the the cytokine storm that is often involved.
Excerpts: . . . Nettle leaf extracts reduce inflammation, in part, by suppressing the release of inflammatory cytokines.
They do this by blocking a chemical inducer known as NF-KappaB, which alters gene expresion. This may be one explanation for the beneficial efffects this herb has exhibited in rheumatoid arthritis (Riehemann et al., 1999). . . .
. . . its ability to slow down the inflammatory cytokine response caused by endotoxins. . . .
For Lyme-related joint pain, Buhner recommends Nettles 1200mg/day.
I have found Nettles (I use organic powdered nettle leaves) to be fantastic for relief of my joint pain - including the wandering joint pain in my legs, arthritic hand pain, etc.
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- Well, Spirulina has excellent nutrients. Both are very dark, rich green when stirred in water. They share some benefits but are also different in some ways.
Not sure if Spirulina would have the same effect as calming a cytokine storm, though. Good details:
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Thanks! I've been taking spirulina for about a week.
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Stinging nettle is a prostate treatment.
I had lots of them growing in my woods. Someons kid must have gotten in them,so they sprayed my woods killing all my woods flowers and since it is a bare wasteland.
What a crock of crap ,people tresspassing and then having the nerve to spray someones property.
Had I been home they would not be spraying anything ever again.
I bought the seeds and replanted the nettles,however the recent drought has made it difficult to grow them.
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- MADDOG, So sorry to hear that.
An important note for others who may not be aware of this yet, it's not the aerial parts of the plant but the ROOT that is used in prostate support.
And the root also has other properties that may be helpful yet that is best determined by one's ND.
Generally, when Nettles is mentioned, it's the leaf that is assumed - unless the root is specifically mentioned.
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- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,
BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and
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- Spacing of this is hard to read so copy & paste to a word page and add in your own spacing, change font for easier reading, printing out. It may take time but this is excellent information and well worth whatever you might have to do to read it.
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Stinging nettle is a natural anti-histamine.
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Thanks for this,..nettles has been on my list of things to check out...it should help with my arthritis pain
I must stop ibuprofen now or im.afraid it will kill me
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- lpkayak,
Actually, for my hands and full body pain, I find Berberine helps better and also with joint pain, trigger finger knuckles to "just stop doing that!" & lessens inflammation.
Nettles "reads" better with nutritional elements, though and has other good benefits yet, for myself, berberine seems much more direct and I really miss it terribly when I don't plan well enough to stay in stock.
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- Be sure it is Nettle LEAF tea. But it's just not going to have the same therapeutic dose as capsules or powder.
Tea bags are usually very weak yet, better than nothing if if your symptoms are mild, it might work.
Be cautious though as many / most tea bags contain "natural flavors" Usually, not at all natural but processed as MSG. Avoid natural flavors.
You could make a tea out of a good sifted raw Nettle Leaf powder, though. That could be made stronger than what any tea bag would offer. -
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