"The analyses also showed that ancient Nubians were consuming large doses of tetracycline -- more than is commonly prescribed today as a daily dose for controlling infections from bad acne."
Keebler
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- Emla,
I love your posts. This one is very interesting, as usual. thanks.
I really love studying the history of natural medicine. I do have to wonder how their livers managed but, then, they lived in a different time.
It would also be interesting to study the wines of the ancients. I bet they were a lot like tinctures. -
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That's AMAZING! They probably didn't get yeast infections either...do you think??
One thing this teacher noticed:
"What's more, they probably got it through beer, and just about everyone appears to have drank it consistently throughout their lifetimes, beginning early in childhood."
Should be "have drunk"...
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emla999/Lyme
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Keebler,
I too am interested in the history of natural medicine. And I am often amazed at how people that lived hundreds or even thousands of years ago were able to discover ways to treat illnesses..... even if inadvertently.
The antibiotic thing was particularly interesting to me because in the past many people/tribes consumed fermented foods and beverages. So, I just can't help but wonder how many other people/tribes living during that period were consuming "homemade" antibiotics via fermentation products??
And I would love to see a comparison of the amount of "homemade" antibiotics consumed between the longest lived people living in that time period verses the antibiotic consumption of the people with the shortest lifespan living in that same time period.
The types of foods eaten by the people/tribes that have lived to be extremely old have been documented and often those people consumed fermented foods/beverages. But I wonder if those foods were tested for antibiotics. I kind of doubt it.
Since acute and chronic infections can cause people to die at an earlier age I wonder if the antibiotic consumption via fermented foods and beverages could put another twist on why some people/tribes lived to an older age than other people living in the same time period.
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Keebler
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- I'm also thinking that their overall food choices were much better for them. Since the advent of processed foods loaded with chemicals, the modern body has been changed some very serious ways. Air pollution, plastics, electronics, etc. also have changed our bodies in a startling fashion.
They also had better sleep hygiene which nurtured their natural circadian rhythm. That's a huge, huge, huge, problem for us today and another way that the modern body has morphed and short circuits us.
I'm not so sure fermentation is always good for everyone - and the ancients had far more ways to get medicine in addition to whatever fermented liquids they used: plants. Plants were their main food source and you can bet they knew far more about which plants worked for medicine than the average person does today.
Also, the beer of the ancients was not at all the beer of today. Same with wine.
While it'd be good study (were I to have the energy), I hesitate jumping on the fermentation wagon as alcohol is so very bad for lyme patients and is to be totally avoided, as per most LLMDs. I think the modern liver just can't take any more stress from alcohol.
I can't handle ANY fermented products, not even a drop of vinegar. The HISTAMINES in fermented products can be troublesome for those with lyme.
However, we still have thousands of plants to consider. More about all that here:
Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), acupuncturist, etc.
Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.
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I don't know keeb, I've got a crock of cabbage slowly turning to sauerkraut on my kitchen table. I read where the natural fermentation products would aid the gut, can't remember all I read before I bought the crock but it was one good deal after another, (if you catch my drift). Don't know if it's good for me or not, just having fun and checking out ways to squirrel away food just in case.
I'm fascinated by the idea of canning the excess of my garden. I love fresh tomatoes but they mostly all ripen at the same time and it's either feast or famine so I bought a pressure canner to see if I can't extend my delicious tomatoes and goodies from my garden! Back to the future!! Food is expensive and it is so easy to grow your own.
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