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Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 

Biological effects of magnetic fields: studies with microorganisms.

Moore RL.

Five bacteria and one yeast were grown in magnetic fields of 50-900 gauss with frequencies of 0-0.3 HZ and square, triangular, or sine waveform.

Growth of these microorganisms could be stimulated or

inhibited

depending upon the field strength and frequency of the pulsed magnetic field.

Spore germination and mutation frequency were unaffected by the magnetic fields used in this study.

PMID: 119572

Sterilization of Escherichia coli cells by the application of pulsed magnetic field.

Li M, Qu JH, Peng YZ.

Research Center for Eco-Environmental Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100085, China.

The inactivation of microorganisms by pulsed magnetic field was studied.

It was improved that the application of electromagnetic pulses evidently causes a lethal effect on E. coli cells suspended in phosphate buffer solution Na2HPO4/NaH2PO4 (0.334/0.867 mmol/L).

Experimental results indicated that the survivability (N/N0; where N0 and N are the number of cells survived per milliliter before and after electromagnetic pulses application, respectively) of E. coli decreased with magnetic field intensity B and treatment time t.

It was also found that the medium temperatures, the frequencies of pulse f, and the initial bacterial cell concentrations have determinate influences in destruction of E. coli cells by the application of magnetic pulses.

The application of an magnetic intensity B = 160 mT at pulses frequency f= 62 kHz and treatment time t = 16 h result in a considerable destruction levels of E. coli cells (N/N0 = 10(-4)).

Possible mechanisms involved in sterilization of the magnetic field treatment were discussed. In order to shorten the treatment time, many groups of parallel inductive coil were used.

The practicability test showed that the treatment time was shortened to 4 h with the application of three groups of parallel coil when the survivability of E. coli cells was less than 0.01%; and the power consumption was about 0.2 kWh/m3.

PMID: 15137668



 


Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
Wow.. sounds interesting...

I think?

How much would it cost to get you to translate that down to my level?

Please charge it to my account if you decide to try.

I am headed to get some breakfast.. and do my laundry... back later. NO hurry!

And thanks!

PS.. I am STILL laughing at your ant jokes!!!


 


Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
Marnie.. see my comments here.. about the ants.


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/035699.html

 


Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Keep it going, Marnie, you are getting warm.

Exposure to electromagnetic frequencies can foster the growth of healthy cells and we become and stay healthy. It is known that each microorganism grows and propers in certain electromagnetic environments and is inhibited in its growth and shrinks and shrivels up in other electromagnetic environments. It is frequency dependent.
Sound or light or any frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum - doesn't matter.

Hope you find more.

Take care.


 


Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
This would seem to add validity to rife machines and the KMT22 machine that Gigi talks about.
 
Posted by chunga (Member # 3775) on :
 
There was a Rife debate going on a few days ago in which a poster described observing spirochetes from his/her own blood using a microscope.

Marnie - you posted in that thread and now I can't find it so I'll reply here.

Doesn't that beg the question - why do these labs have so much trouble with diagnosis?

If this is possible without building an extravagant laboratory I'd be very interested in learning about the process and equipment required.

I already have Rife machines.

Dave

 


Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Chunga, this is the thread
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/0358
07.html

Haven't seen you in a while - hope all is well!
 


Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Pippy, microwaves kill your food and make it into (by the body) unrecognizable molecules. Our body does not know what to do with that nutrient which is a nutrient no longer. Microwaves, for that very reason, were put out to pasture by the Russians in the seventies. They were a heck of a lot smarter. Scientists had not much else to do but do research during the iron curtain years and they produced a wealth of information during those years for the rest of the world.

I would advise against cooking your food in a microwave! Not even water.

If you go to the thread I listed above for Chunga - you will find my post on the rife/microcurrent used to inhibit the reproduction of the microorganisms. The form of current, the microcurrent, is the important word. Only it is in the biological range our body can tune into, if all conditions are right.

I used the KMT a lot and did not electrocute myself. It helped me get well.

Take care.


 


Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Isn't this curious?

To determine the antigenic specificity of the MA-2C6 monoclonal antibody toward OspA antigen of B. burgdorferi, its reactivity was investigated using several isolates of B. burgdorferi from USA and Europe and some non-Lyme disease bacteria.

These bacteria were ***SONICATED*** and the proteins were used for assay by ELISA and immuno blot.
http://ibj.pasteur.ac.ir/ibj7/abolhassani.htm.

(Found this a long time ago...ran across it tonight. I don't know if the link still works.)

The Western Blot measures the ANTIBODIES to a particular protein. But...if Mg is low...the antibodies are damaged (fab portion) and won't "register". Newer genetic testing for the pathogens is very near (pubmed article just recently). This should be MUCH more accurate. Watch the numbers of positively infected persons climb.

TC...I think we're near the same age...remember when listening to chant recordings (by religious monks) was popular? And of course I recently purchased a "Mozart" CD for my 15 month old grandaughter. Baby Einstein...Listening to music by Mozart has been proven to help us learn.

Music - sound waves at various frequencies - can be healing OR harmful.

Some guy at MIT is looking at bacteria on a slide under a microscope while he plays various music. Sometimes they "rock and roll", sometimes they veg-out, and sometimes they get so upset they actually "implode".

Isn't that amazing? (It's the "imploding" frequencies we are wondering about. Does it really happen in vivo - in humans? Can frequencies actually shatter bacteria?)

Not only that...this guy is listening to the sounds the bacteria make. Each type has a unique sound. If they are from "America" they "speak" English, but if they are from a southern state, they have a drawl.

In other words...imagine borrelia would all speak "English", but the different strains of borrelia would have a slightly different "dialect".

This is linked in the Rife "discussion" of a few days ago. My post is long...so just go near the end to read about this guy at MIT.

Fascinating.

That will be a box of Junior Mints please.


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Posted by chunga (Member # 3775) on :
 
Hi all,

Everything is going quite well here. My wife remains ABX free (3 years and counting)and leads a very active life. Thanks very much for asking Gigi!

I wish all the best of health!

We continue using the "coil machine" approximately every four to six weeks for several minutes at frequency 790 kHz.

After which, she generally describes her neck as being "sore", followed by elimination of pain and increased range of motion.

I went back and looked at the previous thread and all I can verify from the anti-Rifer's dissertation is a correct description of Ohm's Law (volts X amps = watts), bold opinions, and an assertion of observing spirochetes daily.

Is it possible that it has never occurred to Quest, MDL, Bowen, etc. to look at blood samples under a microscope?

That's hard to swallow.

The in vivo vs. vitro argument is also hard to swallow.

Who out there has had a Lyme test in a fashion other than sending a blood sample?

My question still remains. Does anyone think it's possible to draw blood from a Lyme patient and observe them *alive* under a microscope??

If so, I would do so while bombarding them with my Rife machines and report my observations here.

Good or bad.

I posted in this thread to avoid the mud-slinging in the other one.

Dave


 


Posted by Virginia of Yore (Member # 3269) on :
 
I had a live cell microscopy done, taking just one drop of blood from my finger and putting it on a slide while a videotape was made of the various cells' movements. Despite having been on multiple antibiotics for at least 7 months (including flagyl), we saw (and videotaped) in that drop of blood a live spirochete swimming along all too healthily. The pathologist doing the test said the magnification wasn't strong enough to tell exactly what type spirochete it was, but said it was definitely a spirochete. (Different spirochetes than Bb can cause gum disease, for example, but I don't have gum problems.) My head of infectious disease doc showed the videotape to his entire department...and recommended I stay on the antibiotics.
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Look up the article from Townswend Letter, Jan 2005, Lyme Disease, Potential Plague of the 21st Century --- Detection problems Resolved by the Bradford Variable Projection High Resolution Miscroscope. Prof. Robert W. Bradford and Henry W. Allen. The whole article is printed on the internet. Search.

I have their treatment protocol - it looks a lot like Dr. K's including the Oral Salt protocol.

The Bradford Research Institute's protocol is apparently also quite successful.

Take care.
 


Posted by chunga (Member # 3775) on :
 
I think the best idea would be to go and have that live microscopy done before I going buying any microscopes.

So I guess the point I was missing is that not everyone who has Lyme will necessarily have spirochetes in a pin-prick drop of blood.

And perhaps sometimes they are there and sometimes they are not.

But if we did have the live microscopy done (maybe a few times) and it did contain spirochetes I could observe the exact equipment in the lab...then maybe I would buy a microscope.

Gigi, I know you're not crazy about the device I have......but what do you think Dr. K's opinion would be of a test applying frequencies to live spirochetes?

Perhaps he would have some advice...or refer us to someone who could help??? ;-)

 


Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
Thanks Marnie and Gigi this is good info...
you always have good stuff to share! I appreciate it.
Magnesium has helped as well as other things you have suggested!
TTT

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Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
ooops forgot..
I heard about some NASA scientist using electromag freq to help heal the body...
looks like the technology is there. I just get confused because its hard to understand in a brain fog..
Hopefully more will keep coming out about how this can be used...still a little chicken about doing rife but will consider it!
thanks!
 
Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
this may be a dumb question. I got Bryan's book and thought it was good.
Do microcurrents get into the areas where the organisms hide? passing through the body do they lose any force?

I am convinced that microcurrents help heal tissue and work to kill organims in the blood outside the body as has been demonstrated. Just wonder if there has been an animal study where the stubborn strains of infection in animals have been cleared with microcurrent?
That would be a good study...except I have a hard time with animal research...
 


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