Not much in the search section on Cilantro. After 4 days I needed to stop for a day due to nausea. Is this happening to anyone else?
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Yes it can.
I think it depends on how sensitive your tummie is.
I had to ditch that a while ago.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
No, cilantro tincture does not create nausea, but the toxins it helps release do when they get into the gut area.
As with all agents or meds that release heavy metals and other neurotoxins, unless you start taking the mop-up agents alongside (Chlorella, pectin, charcoal, chitosan, cholestyramine - any of them) your liver and gallbladder start to get congested. The minute you start to get nauseous, it's also high time to get colonics and lymph drainages! I have posted about that many, many times. The reason: you cannot just go on a killing spree releasing all sorts of toxins without aiding the eliminating organs big time!
Be sure to also take Rechtsregulat or similar agent to keep your blood from being dark and sticky (full of dead proteins). Blood that is dark and sticky makes you feel sick also. Think of a sludgy dirty river!
The toxins get stuck in the gut - to put it simply - and are then reabsorbed into the system and go settling someplace else. It is useless to do it that way. You will meet the same toxins again some other time if you do it without a lot of chlorella and/or some of the other agents.
That is not a herxheimer - it is in plain language a toxic overload. Cilantro works, but you must treat and use it with respect. Start slowly with 2 drops and up it gradually, always paying attention to the neurotoxin mop-up agents.
Take care.
Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
It seems to me that cilantro could cause a herx with nausea. It is believed that the large amount of cilantro in the diets of some cultures is a reason people in the areas don't get symptoms of certain bacteria that cause food poisoning
If you have those infections, the cilantro could be killing them. It is believed by some that gut infections can cause reactive arthritis as well.
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
possibility to run by your doc:
hypothetical scenario #1:
i think i read somewhere that cilantro causes the gallbladder to contract; in turn, by some set of nerve impules,and other physiological events, such as, perhaps, extruding a small gallbladder stone from the contraction. the small stone(s) then get stuck in some pancreatic duct, and/or common bile duct. a stone in a duct, and elsewhere it does not belong would lead to the nausea, and other signs and symptoms relating to a gallbladder attack.
hypothetical case # 2: instead of a few small stones and, instead you have one large gallstone, and the cilantro causes the gallbladder to contract, the stress of teh large stone against the gallbladder opening gecause it can't get out, would set off some set of nerve impulses, one symptom of which might be nausea.
[ 09. May 2006, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: pq ]
Posted by tjtighe (Member # 4057) on :
Thank you, all. I am taking CSM and having lymphatic massage. Hope that helps both the nausea and the almost constant headache.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Cilantro tincture, when taken a few minutes before the meal, helps the bile flow.
This is a portion of my doctor's instrucitons:
"Raw cilantro does not have the effects as the tincture does or when the cilantro was heated at one point. Cilantro contains a mildly toxic compound which is neutralized when it is placed in a small amount of hot water before ingesting. It must be taken just before a meal or 30 minutes after taking chlorella. Cilantro causes the gallbladder to dump bile - containing the excreted neurotoxins into the small intestine.
If no Chlorella is taken, most neurotoxins are reabsorbed on their way down the small intestine."
If you take it, try to do it right. My doctor would chuckle at your two scenarios I am sure, pq!
No cilantro should be taken around dental work.
Take care.
Posted by bugabooboo (Member # 7383) on :
Well, I have to share this...
I frequently make a batch of Pico de Gallo with loads of Cilantro, fresh garlic, onions, and just a few tomatoes and peppers.
It cleans me out but good, not to mention it's delicious!
Bug
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
Gigi,
consider: if there are large stone(s) in the gallbladder whose diameter(s) is too large to get through the lumen-neck of the gb, and cilantro causes the gb. to contract, could the stone get stuck in the neck of the gb., thereby plugging up the gallbladder? furthermore, given the blocked opening of the gb(lumen?), AND cilantro further induces the liver to pump out more bile into the gb. along with existing stone(s) plus bile, then then the bile accumulates in the gb. this would increase the pressure against the gb walls, as the gb expands. if the gb has pressure, and stretch receptors, and nerves, the signals of stress would be triggered due to the combination of expansion by accumulating bile, AND the nerve trigger(signal) to the gb to contract(i don't really know). triggered nerve impulses from pressure and stretch plus the contraction would then get to the point of stress on the gb. one manifestation of a stressed gb, might be nausea. this is something for the doc or even duc would reason. if a large stone pops out due to the force of the pressure against the gb walls, Plus the contracture of the gb, then all will be well, i'd imagine.
if the stones are many, and small enough to pass through the gb lumen exit,with out getting stuck in some pancreatic, or common bile duct then no nausea. if the stone(s) get stuck in a duct, one will be in the e.r. getting prep'd for two to three(?) holes in the abdomen for the cholescystectomy. a drive through operation?
who knows...
just musing...
[ 10. May 2006, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: pq ]
Posted by WildCondor (Member # 434) on :
The Cilantro made me very nauseated very quickly! Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
The main purpose for taking cilantro tincture or hot cilantro tea made with tincture is for mobilizing of heavy metals. Cilantro tincture crosses the blood brain barrier and knocks the metals of their binding sites.
If you get nauseous, think heavy metals. The excess flooding of mobilized heavy metals can make you very sick unless you have any mopping up agents in the intestinal tract (chlorella, etc.)
Cilantro tincture or certain Cilantro tablets are only taken for heavy metals. There are plenty of medical references available. Cilantro tincture is generally not used for Lyme bacteria, etc.
Take care.
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
two, of many probable reasons for the nausea:
granted, the mobilized metal-cilantro complex and/ or both separately, might cause nausea, because there is an area of the brain that registers there is a poison in the brain; actually,best i recall a little bit of a poison thats orally ingested goes to a part of the brain which, in turn sends a signal to the stomach to contract, thusly nausea.
the other cause of the nausea would probably be the mechanism(events) i described above.
again just two, of many causes for the nausea, based on the original post of this thread.
i've done neither cilantro, nor a metal detox.
certain medicines, such as, for example, one, or more of the abx of the tetracycline class of abx do bind minerals. while the lit. mentions only good minerals binding certain abx, i presume that they would also bind bad minerals(heavy metals), esp. if the oxidation state(valency) of the bad minerals, is the same as that of the good minerals.
furthermore, i presume that,if abx, or their breakdwon products(metabolites), would bind minerals, good and bad, in the g.i. tract, that they would also bind them elswhere in the body, or else dislodge(mobilize?) them; in turn this might cause nausea, as would the cilantro.
by this account,then,taking metal(mineral-binding) medicines might be a way of heavy metal detox.
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