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Posted by going_crazy79 (Member # 7887) on :
 
Just curious how common if it actually happens at all that you get lyme from a dog tick??? Also, what about co-infections? Can they be transmitted from regular ticks?

I know there is speculation about this but curious how many of you got it that way?

Also, how do you get tested for a co-infection?? Which test at either Bowen or Igenex would be the most accurate for co-infections?
 
Posted by monkeyshines (Member # 6406) on :
 
It's hard to know for sure. The only ticks I know I was bitten by were 'regular' ticks (the larger ones). I had many bites over many years, and didn't get sick til years after the last known bite. But could have been bitten by a deer tick and not know it as they are so small.

monkeyshines
 
Posted by LYMESCIENCE (Member # 9259) on :
 
The lone star tick also transmits Lyme Disease. Its a highly aggressive tick as well. The species of Borrelia it has, however, is not yet testable. Unfortunatly, it still produces Lyme.
 
Posted by lymedesign (Member # 8791) on :
 
Has any noticed this year that there are an unusually high number of lone star ticks. In Monmouth/Ocean County, NJ, I have never seen so many. The Lawn Doctor Technician agreed. Every tick we have seen crawling on us, friends, & neighbors, has been a lone star. I am sure the others are there lurking too, just waiting.
 
Posted by Trina (Member # 9270) on :
 
Hello,
The type of tic mine came from was one of those little tiny nymph tics.

Are they a young lone star tick? Had those also but the EM was from the little one.
 
Posted by LYMESCIENCE (Member # 9259) on :
 
Yes. The lone star tick also has a nymphal stage. I must point out that much less is known about Lyme Disease transmitted by the Lone Star Tick.

In the black legged tick (the deer tick), spirochetes are gennerally found in the tick gut, but in the Lone Star tick, they may be in the salvia, making the whole time attachement thing meaningless. The point is that there are at least 2 ticks that are scientifically proven to transmit Lyme disease. Much less is known about the lone star tick.

It is a highly aggressive tick, it will bite anything with blood if they are near.

PS: I have also noticed a large increase in Lone Star Ticks. I've found at least 10 in the past couple weeks. The strange thing is that I even live in the city, not the country, and still I'm finding large numbers of them this year.
 
Posted by LYMESCIENCE (Member # 9259) on :
 
For help with tick identification.

http://www.ent.iastate.edu/imagegal/ticks/defaulttn.html

http://www.path.sunysb.edu/labs/tickpics/TICKpic.htm

http://webpages.lincoln.ac.uk/fruedisueli/FR-webpages/parasitology/Ticks/TIK/tick-key/index.htm
 
Posted by going_crazy79 (Member # 7887) on :
 
Thanks everyone. I guess you just never know. I had 5 regular old dog ticks on my head all at once a few years back after returning from a fishing trip in the woods.

That is the last I know of that I have been bit.

I have not been well since last July - so I am going on 10 months and still searching for answers.

I did once get bit by a tick that was not a dog tick but I am not sure the type, but this was probably 11 years ago.

I know lyme can lay dormant, but I really don't think this dates all the way back to then if it turns out I do have lyme.

Hopefully I will get some answers soon!!!
 
Posted by LYMESCIENCE (Member # 9259) on :
 
It is also important to note that nympal stage ticks, the ones most likely to transmit the disease, are extremely small about the size of this here peroid.

In many studies of culture, or DNA proven Lyme, up to 50 percent did not remember being bitten by a tick, and those are numbers given by Allan Steere, so what do you think the real numbers are??
 
Posted by Boomerang (Member # 7979) on :
 
Well, good grief..........this is all such a mess of trying to learn.

The little nymphs are high transmitters? We get those bites all of the time. I always think we have gotten into a "nest" of them or something.

Many bites from the lone star ticks. They are larger, or at least, more recognizable.
 
Posted by Boomerang (Member # 7979) on :
 
Well, good grief..........this is all such a mess of trying to learn.

The little nymphs are high transmitters? We get those bites all of the time. I always think we have gotten into a "nest" of them or something.

Many bites from the lone star ticks. They are larger, or at least, more recognizable.
 
Posted by Trina (Member # 9270) on :
 
Lymescience,

You are so right about the lone star tic being agressive.

I plucked off so many I quit counting.Had 30 tic bites.

They are easy to recognize as they have a white star or spot on their back.

The little tiny nymps are very hard to see and kind of reddish looking.If a person has bad eyesight they would't be able to see them at all.They tend to get in your shoes and climb on up. Anyway after mushroom hunting I found several in my shoes.You should put your clothes and shoes in the dryer immediatly after being in the woods ect.. as they can't tolerate heat at all.Now I know this a bit to late...

Get this, I am from Missouri and my local health department says they are told there is no lyme in Missouri.What a lie.And doctors do not have to send in the paperwork unless they do bloodtest and it comes back positive.

The strain of lyme carried from the lone star tic in Missouri does not usually show in blood test.

I read that,.. in a book a couple of days ago.It is a newer strain.They know tics carry about 100 diffrent kinds just do not have test and names for the diffrent stains.Makes it very hard to treat.There is also a new deadly kind in missouri called MO1.

I read this in a couple of diffrent books written by MDs..so don't kill the messenger here.

I find this all so unbelievable and even more that so many doctors are closed minded about the subject.

As a child we did not have lone star tics that I ever remember,I did a lot of horse back riding and spent a lot of time out side.They have really spread.I did see my first little nymp in joplin missouri ( closer south) and we lived in closer to the Iowa border.Now they are all over the place.
 


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