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Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :

I had an appointment with my LLMD a few days ago, and the results of my latest immune panel was really distressing to me:

When I was first diagnosed, my immune count was 15. That was in June 2005. By November the count had increased to 22.

I imagined I would go on seeing an increase, but with this latest panel, I've actually gone backwards: my count is now 20.

I'm taking bromelain and have been since starting on abx. I'm also taking a specific herbal immune builder.

Does anyone have any thoughts about why this might be happening, what it means and how I can increase this count?

Thanks everyone!

Andie

Posted by mbroderick (Member # 5220) on :

Hi Andie!

Below are some of the things that have worked for us. Let me know how you're doing!

Marian

AHCC or Immpower (It's a maitake and reishi mushroom extract) Here are several websites to read about it... http://www.ahccpublishedresearch.com/wwwroot-ahcc/default.htm, http://www.ahccresearch.com/, http://ahcc-nutrients.com/

Nutriferon (I got this through a friend who is a distributor for Shaklee.) Here are links with some information about it http://www.superbugwiki.com/index.php?title=Nutriferon_vs_MRSA, http://www.immune-system-boosters.com/nutriferon.htm

Posted by mbroderick (Member # 5220) on :

It sounds like a Natural Killer cell test. The number should be at least 150 for a healthy person.

Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :

Perfect timing Andie,

i just had my CD57 done and mine is a 10. I already know my white cells are practically non existant after they were depleted last Sept.

I did do a search and i think it was lymeinhell that had hers go down also....and she was feeling good with a very low count.

I guess like anything it is different for all of us.

Posted by lifeline (Member # 3445) on :

Hi Andie,

I had a natural killer cell function assay in December and it was 09 (normal range 8-170 LU). This was done at Quest.

He suggested taking a type of transfer factor, however, due to the expense, I declined.

I don't feel any worse because my killer cell function test is as low as it is, and in speaking to another LLMD, it takes a number of reasons why a person's immune system could cause them problems. He didn't seem too concerned, as all my blood work comes back normal and after 18 months of abx and having been off all abx for over 2 years, I feel almost normal...at least this is my new normal by which I function good on a daily basis, for which I am grateful.

Personally, I don't feel only this one test can determine how you are doing...how you are feeling, etc.

I could be all wrong, but it is just my own opinion.

lifeline

Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :

Thanks, everyone, for all your help and wisdom, as always.

lyme ed, cant knew the official name -- cd57; Marian described it well. I was told that the range was from 1 to 300-something with normal, as Marian said, around 150. That makes numbers like cant and I have pretty low.

Marian, thanks for the suggestions about the resishi mushrooms. I think I'd started taking something with them but stopped for some reason (probably money).

lifeline, what you said makes sense to me, too, because I actually feel better than I have in a year...yet the count is worse.

My LLMD didn't seem to have answers, only to say that it was still an indication of Lyme still in me. As good as I feel, I have no doubt that's true.

Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :

CD57 is supposed to be the NK cell count for Lyme immune cells.

Are you talking about IgM Immunoglobulin panel?

Mo

Posted by cutie (Member # 8468) on :

I think the CD57 count and the natural killer cell tests are different tests.

The Natural Killer test : the normal range is 20-50. At least this is how it is tested at the FFC.

Cutie

Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :

Mo, cutie,

I honestly have NO idea (when I've said in the past here that I'm science-challenged, that's the truth!).

Sorry [dizzy]

Posted by IsThereHope (Member # 6581) on :

This will help you for sure
http://www.rain-tree.com/catclaw.htm

Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :

Thanks for the link, hope. Actually, I've been taking cats claw faithfully since starting abx a year ago.

Andie

Posted by IsThereHope (Member # 6581) on :

Jwf, who posts on here really thinks the Raintree brand is best, I'm on it too. Keep up the fight.