i heard of some doctor who is saying that he uses bioresonance to treat lyme. he says usually 1-4 visits is enough.
so is this a scam?? a friend of mine goes and says he has helped her tremendously. she can't take antibiotics and reacts to everything. she's only gone a couple of times so the jury is still out on this.
what dya think???
Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
I am just guessing, but bio-resonance sounds like a rife or Hulda Clark Super Zapper (where they have slides/samples of actual pathogens/chemicals that provide the referent frequency).
I would look into it more, ask around, and then if seems helpful, try to figure a cost basis to see if owning is better than receiving services, for the long term.
There are some machines that emit healthy body/healing frequencies (like Vibes), rather than pathogen frequencies. I guess the idea here is to help the body to heal so it can fight itself. I have only heard of this machine.
But only 4 treaments? Wow........that sounds tempting!
Northstar
Posted by psano (Member # 7785) on :
Sounds interesting. How is it different from rifing?
Posted by geniveve (Member # 8646) on :
that's just it. i don't know anything about rifing or this bioreonance therapy. here's what the brochure says.
the treatment process consists of shining a laser beam through the glass blank that has been prepared with the reverse energy imprint of whatever, etc., into a luo acupuncture point in order to exchange the existing energy at that point with the reverse energy imprint. the pre-existing energy at that point was coded to bind and isolate the whatever, etc., in our body in order to "wall it off" from the rest of the body as a normal bodily reaction. the new reverse energy imprint travels along the meridian pathway changing the preexisting code as it travels along the pathway for 25 hours. this new imprint causes the body to repel the whatever, etc, instead of binding with resulting in breaking the chemical bonding, thus freeing the whatever, etc., to bind with the detoxing agents, i.e, chlorella, spirulina, alpha lipoic acid, etc. this complex is transferred out of the body with the feces and body fluids.
i don't know if this is the same as rifing or not. this particular doctor says they come from all over the country.
she's from tennessee and says he's cured her entire family of four. he charges around 100 per visit or so.
at this point, i'm willing to try anything.
Posted by lymie tony z (Member # 5130) on :
OH BROTHER...
or whatever......
tell ya what...send me your hundred bucks and I'll send you a CD of my Joe Cocker impersonation....
that ought to scare the boogers out of ya!...
lol.... zman
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
G, could you post the website, possibly the name of the doctor, the actual name of the therapy and who originated it.
There are many bioresonance therapies.
Can you quote the printed brochure text? so that everyone is able to look it up who wants to know more. I would. Thank you.
Posted by bobdavis (Member # 510) on :
Here is something that works and can be built for almost nothing.
Download a frequency generator program for your computer. Set the program to 306 Hz.
Plug your stereo into the computer instead of those wimpy computer speakers.
Take the degausing coil from an old monitor or TV and hook it up to the speaker wires from one channel of the stereo.
Now you have a low power "Doug coil". It is highly effective, but it takes longer then the full power version. It still works!
To be really effective the stereo has to deliver about 120 volts AC to the speakers, that is usually around 250 watts per channel.
The degaussing coil should get quite hot after 10 to 15 minutes. I have used a 100 watt per channel amplifier. You may fry the amplifier if you are not careful.
Posted by lymie tony z (Member # 5130) on :
Guess no one appreciated my humor...
However...this is exactly the technique these ducks are prescribing...
The resonance created by certain frequencies is supposed to vibrate the cell walls in deep tissues and thus create HEAT in the cells...
We all know or should know that HEAT is not liked by mr BB...
So if you can heat up the cells where mr BB lives... you can destroy mr BB....without killing the patient. Theoretically...
Internal Cellular Hyperthermia thru chemicals has been tried and does'nt work...some have tried it using malari inducing fever...it dang near kills the patient...AND gives them malaria...
The reason it does'nt work may be due to the number of new cells we produce daily and the prolific reproduction of BB...no one knows for sure. So....research this procedure... I doubt if it will work but hey...ya'll gotta try something...
zman
Posted by TNhayley (Member # 8249) on :
I have heard of this guy in TX. (But it's not me who's seen him.) I'm glad someone has asked about this, because I wondered if it would be just another waste of time and money, or if it's for real.
Here is what the brochure says (I don't think there is a website):
"Total Repro Bioresnance therapy utilizes the normal bioelectrical energy of the substances foreign to our body.
Take, for example, mercury accumulated in the body from mercury amalgams and multiple meals of certain fish and crustaceans.
This mercury occurs in three forms in our bodies - vivus, soluble, and methylated mercury.
A reverse imprint of that energy is drawn into a saline water blank and is used for the bioresonance therapy.
The treatment process consists of shining a laser beam through a glass blank that has been prepared with the reverse energy imprint of mercury into a Luo acupuncture point in order to exchange the existing energy at that point with the reverse energy imprint.
The pre-existing energy at that point was coded to bind and isolate the mercury in our body in order to "wall it off" from the rest of the body as a normal bodily reaction.
The new reverse energy imprint travels along the meridian pathway changing the pre-existing code as it travels along the pathway for 24 hours.
This new imprint (code) causes the body to repel the mercury instead of binding it, resulting in breaking the chemical bonding, thus freeing the mercury to bind with detoxing agents, i.e., chorella, spirulina, alpha lipoic acid, etc.
This complex is transferred out of the body with the feces and bodily fluids."
This particular practioner is a Ph.D. from the School of Acoustics and Electronics, University of Salford, England.
Apparently this Dr modified the origial Bioresonance protocol by adding additional accupoint therapy. He claims a 99% efficacy rate, and is maintaining observational data from his patients as research in an on-going study.
Also, he apparently "diagnoses" you via a handwriting sample done in pencil before appointments.
Now, I have absolutely NO idea how that is supposed to work. ??
I would be very interested to hear what those that know more about this type of thing have to say!!!
It is my understanding that this is not the same as rife therapy.
If anyone wants the particulars, who where etc, PM me.
Hayley
Ps. Any typos are mine. Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
This Photonic Detoxification post is definitely not for people with an antibiotic-only mentality who do not understand physics for healing -- light/color, sound, frequencies, etc.
It would be wise for these people to refrain from showing how ignorant they are by making insulting comments about this "science".
I have done this type of treatment in various ways. I use my little laser, laser shields, laser guns many times, accompanied by the proper remedies or solo.
Photonic Detoxification is done by many doctors all over the world who have gone beyond drugs. It was also learned that if patients were specific color eyeglasses during the process, the toxins were less likely to hang up, i.e. yellow glasses prevented toxins from hanging up in the kidneys and bladder! etc. etc.
It also became evident that the body releases its toxins in a certain order and only a certain number could be released during a certain time frame. Sulfa antibiotics had to be released first.
When I first read this post, I could not make the proper connection. Now I can.
Several years ago, a Cyril Smith, PhD, nuclear phycisist from England met with Tom Crowley, PhD, anatomist from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School. They developed a simple technique to rapidly detoxify substances from the body using an inexpensive laser pointer shined onto specific acupuncture points through a glass vial of saline containing certain inverted frequencies.
This was done to a patient very toxic from gasoline. When this was done through homeopathic gasoline, so much gasoline would come out in the expired air of the treated person that they therapist would have to leave the treatment room because of the overpowering gasoline fumes in the air.
How this process has progressed treating specific infections, I do not know beyond what I experienced myself and what I have heard from doctors that are using/teaching this method. The patient needs strong mop-up support. If the patient has strong unresolved emotions, the toxins released from their tissues had a greater tendencey to get hung-up in a specific organ (i.e. kidneys/urinary bladder if anxious or in fear; liver and/or gallbladder if angry or frustrated, etc.)
It has also become evident during this type of Quantum Photonic Detoxification that patients who had received sulfa drugs had to be treated for the sulfa drug residuals before the photonic treatment can work successfully.
It takes knowledge and the proper training. When addressing Lyme Disease,it also takes the recognition that Lyme can only be "cured" if all deficiencies and toxicities are addressed - no matter which healing method is used.
We use our little green laser all the time to open up my energy flow when it gets blocked. We also use our little red laser. I simply use (green) on my acupuncture points for a few seconds -- if you don't believe in acupuncture points and meridians, well, then I can't help it.
I also use my KMT which is nothing but frequency application, just using a different medium/technique.
I have used light - colored light beamed into the eyes. We know that distinct color frequencies can reactivate synapses in the brain which were at one time blocked. I have walked around with colored glasses specifically selected at a particular time during my healing.
Did you know that blue-green heals post-traumatic tissue injuries. That magenta brings deeply held conflicts and emotions to the surface. Ever heard of "got the blues" - "green with envy" - red-hot love? Color can work both ways - you may be releasing some of the emotions that caused you to feel blue -- something really bad happened when you or someone wore a blue shirt--- circuitries in the limbic system.
I am certain that the "pencil" brought a certain physical characteristic to the test.
I met one of the doctors using the Quantum Photonic Detoxing - I saw it in action - at a Klinghardt seminar several years ago. A well known Lyme literate Medical Doctor. He is now teaching the method all over. God bless him. He is a healer who goes way beyond the prescription pad.
Take care.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Laser Acupuncture Detox (LAD) - what is it? as explained by one of the doctors who utilizes this technique:
LAD passes the light of a laser pointer through a clear glass vial of the inverted frequency of a homeopathic toxin onto several acupuncture points for the purpose of causing the body organs presented by those points to detox that specific toxin.
LAD can also be used to treat allergies or autoimmunity.
Take care.
Posted by lymie tony z (Member # 5130) on :
Long ago
In a galaxy far far away
was born a woman so advanced in the
physics of medicine that she could actually
communicate with simple tap water. Utilizing
Utilizing her light sabers of various colors each with it's own bioresanant properties she was able to cure all known and as yet undiscovered maladies of the species homosapien....
Look there Genevieve...you do what you want...but if somebody is gonna treat you based on a diagnosis from your handwritting...
and you're gonna take advice from someone who actually BELIEVES water has cognitive properties....then you deserve to be plucked like a thanksgiving turkey of all your money.
By the way GIGI...I've NEVER stooped to calling you IGNORANT...however comming from someone who believes... "IF you can't dazzle them with brilliance,...Baffle them with bullsirt"!
I'll take it as a complement to my common sense!
See ya and good luck....zman
Posted by travis (Member # 8405) on :
GiGi, I hope you read this. I went to see this PHD in TX that uses the bioresonance. He is the one you mentioned that studied with Dr Cyrl Smith.
I was told that after that treatment Iwould be cured of Lyme. I had a positive western blot about three years ago. Now I have made two trips to see this PHD and I don't feel better. Can you offer any suggestios? After I read what you said about clearing other things I know that did not happen for me. This was a trip that added up for me having to buy two plane tickets and stay a week twice. I had my husband tested with his signature and he has not been sick but lyme showed up so he went also. we have been out quite a bit of money. I have a Coil machine and I have the book on Energy Medicine and I try to do some of that. I don't have any amalgams. I have been sick for so many years and went all over for help. I just didn't know it was lyme until I was tested. Now I don't know if I still have it because I am suppose to be cured of it after using the low level laser. I had just lost my only brother suddenly before I went. This is still a hurt. I do try the EFT but Ihave to keep reading so that I don't get off course doing it. Then I don't know if I messed up. Since I was told I would be cure of lyme I don't know now what I am fighting. I use a Beck Silver Pulsar plus a Godzilla that is similar. I have blood in my urine and it burns. Just please as a suggestion and not a diagnosis can you in some way say if I would still have lyme after doing that bioresonnance?
Please give me some direction. Thanks so much for being here. Sandy
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
Anyone that claims it cures Lyme in my opinion is to be questioned. I know several people that have done it with that same PhD and not one of them was "cured" from Lyme.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Tony Z - I appreciated your humor! And GiGi - I appreciated your open mind towards non-traditional therapies. It's very helpful that some of you have posted info of your experience with this & that you found it mostly not helpful except for removing money from your bank accounts. Some of this stuff with lasers & color therapy sounds like fun but I wish they wouldn't make rediculous claims to people who are suffering. When will it end? Some of these so called "alternative" practioners are worse than the allopathic doctors who they are supposed to be alternatives to. Why don't they use themselves as guniea pigs, first?
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
I assume that you are talking about LED. Laser Energetic Detoxification therapy which has been found to dramatically help to speed up the healing process.
All of us must understand by now that if one wants to get rid of Lyme, one has to treat "a hundred other problems" alongside. I have mentioned many over the years.
Many of these problems are successfully addressed with LED. Exactly as described in the article below. This happens to be a fair description. http://www.comprehensivenaturopathy.com/led.htm
Also, you may want to google Laser Eenergetic Detoxification for more information.
And please, negative nellies, hold your horses. You might have to change your mind one of these days.
Take care.
P.S. After attending a 4-day seminar a couple of weeks ago and talking with LC, detox of sulfa residue is the first that is treated (once located with ART or computer energetic testing.) In other words,
"The foremost example is sulfa antibiotic residual in the body. It appears that the presence of sulfa drugs in the tissues prevents the affected person from being able to effectively take up into their tissues sulfur-containing nutrients and detoxification substances containing sulfur. The treatment for sulfa antibiotics and sulfa diabetic drugs comes first, and can be essential for recovery.
Another key finding is that many chronically ill patients develop auto-immunity......"
I may add that the important people around me, who have contributed to my wellness, who practice integrative medicine, are starting to incorporate this treatment modality (LED) in their practice. It has been in effect for approx. 5-7 years. No, we are not standing still, thank God.
Do read it carefully.
[ 11. April 2007, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
Posted by travis (Member # 8405) on :
Yes GiGi that is was part of what he did.
According to him he taught Dr C that you have on that web site. I am not sure about mentioning any names. But the Cardiologist.
He used a machine that did a lymp treatment first then found a note for us so he would know what tuning forks to use. Then he had us wear colored glasses if he didn't forget to. Then he did the laser it was a very low level one he said he had bought it at a office supply store and it was attached to a golf club with the homeopathic remedy and he went over the meridains and Chakras with this. Then he used the tuning forks over each ear and our brow chokra and at the end it was a LED treatment that was hooked up to a stero that was making a lot of static when it changed sound that finished the LED. It was with a lot of lights and they were like the ones I have tried to read up on. This was used around the area of where your aura would be. But there was never any mention of treating sulfa. I have been exposed to a lot of chemicals because my father worked on the Manhatten Project when they built the atomic bomb. He would bring things home and I am sure these were very toxic things. I kept asking to be checked for uranium and radiation and he found it but I am not sure if he treated it because Ihad to keep mentioning it.
We never got everything treated that showed up with the method he used. The stone and string I don't know if I should use the real word. I just felt so much worse when he avoided returning any of my calls for 4 days and then they answer when my husband calls on his cell phone. This dr also thinks we are all sick due to the chemtrails. I am open minded to almost everything but the only question Ihave about that is who ever is doing it also has to come back down to earth. If the chemtrails is doing all of this how do the people behind it keep from getting sick. Sorry if I ask to many questions. I just don't know where to go from here. I am not rich we used our equity from our house that we sold. I have to make wise choices. Anything you can suggest I am open to.
Thanks again for taking time to reply. sandy travis
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Sandy, you might want to check back with the PhD who treated you, possibly in a non-insulting way. He is the one to answer your questions.
This type of treatment, LED, is done very much as described in the article I posted here. It was not as refined a few years ago, but the basics are still the same. It is safe and very beneficial when done right. Yes, with an inexpensive laser and homeopathic frequencies. Diagnosing the toxins and the hundreds, possibly thousands of offenders, is the trick.
We still have to clean out our colon; you still have to clean out your emotional garbage can; you still have to possibly fix your teeth and address bad teeth/jawbone,
Take care.
Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
Thanks for sharing your questions and answers about bioresonance!
I love energy medicine. I find it so fascinating, and I'd like to understand it better. Anything that works so well for some people, and defies an easy explanation piques my interest.
I am assuming that people who are discounting possible treatment options are doing so with the intention of keeping lymenet friends safe.
I'm hoping that people will self-monitor their negative comments or sarcasm pretty carefully, so that the positive intention of promoting good health comes through clearly.
Gallileo figured out that the earth wasn't the center of the Universe, but everybody laughed. Later they even threatened his life about it. He had to call himself a liar to save his neck. We're not laughing now.
I wonder what our great-grandkids are going to be calling us ignorant about. New ideas have to start somewhere. I'm jazzed to see lots of ideas coming through lymenet, from so many different angles.
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I just want to restate my thoughts. I think this therapy CAN be very helpful. My comment was that I think it is not a "cure". Anyone that has a "cure" for Lyme disease is questionable in my mind. How do they define "cure"?
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