I can not find coptis , except in tincture , or in combination with other herbs . I also found it sold in bulk , but I do not want to buy a pound until I think I can tolerate it .
Has anyone here found a place where it can be sold in capsules or tablets? Thanks ann
Posted by JimBoB (Member # 8454) on :
Ann: I got mine in bulk from 1st Chinese Herbs. However, IF you call Sarah there, she is very helpful and PROBABLY can find it for you.
Jim. ###
Posted by MariaA (Member # 9128) on :
By the way, where does the coptis recommendation come from- is it part of a Lyme doc's protocol?
(just trying to learn more)
Maria
Posted by jwf (Member # 6292) on :
jwf Frequent Contributor Member # 6292
posted 20 March, 2007 07:12 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The two Seven Forest formulas that I took were Forsythia 18 and Isatis 6.
If you take the two Seven Forest formulas then you get *8 known anti-spirochete herbs . In addition, Smilax or Sarsaparilla has been discussed quite a bit, and Chinng-hao you may recognize as Artemisia.
As a rule of thumb, we never took Artemesia or Artemisinin at the same time as the Seven Forest Formulas.
The Artemesia seemed to combat Lyme better than the Artemisinin, but that is a subjective conclusion.
There are several online sources for the Seven Forest Herbal Formulas. It is recommended that you buy them from an ND, acupuncturist, or knowledgeable practitioner.
Blue Skies.......John
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
I am wanting to try coptis because it is related to goldenseal and has berberine, an antiinfective ingredient . Goldenseal helped me ENORMOUSLY with a nasty chest infection.
Jimbob says it was the most potent herb by far that he had taken . I had a bad reaction to andrgraphis, but hated to stop it because it gave killer herxes and I felt it could really be a helper . Unfortunately , I could not taste my food , sleep , or have a " cheery " outlook ( translation : I felt depressed as H-ll ) .
I would like to try coptis , but do not really want to buy a POUND in case it causes side effects like the andrographis .
Fortunately , for most people here , the andro causes no problems and many are posting that they see real benefits .
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
JWF, JimBob also felt that the ARTEMESIA was more beneficial for lyme than the artimisinin .
Thanks for sharing this . I may try the formula , though I am somewhat reluctant after having some problems ( unlike everyone else ) with andrographis . Maybe the andro in this combo is not the concentrate and is easier to tolerate .
JWF I am glad to read that you have had so much progress with herbs. Were you ill very long before starting the herbs? Did you take ABX before ( for a long time ) before the herbs? Have you also added rife to your regimen?
Thanks for sharing!
Posted by jwf (Member # 6292) on :
Hi Ann,
Lyme disease: 1 1/2 years then 30 days low dose doxy
Neuroborreliosis was not good.
Morgellons onset: 1 yr. 3 months from Lyme infection
Good description here: A Living Hell
No change with doxy; no surprise.
Lyme and Morgellons symptoms gone within 3 years of Lyme infection.
No rife, just a lot of zapping. I built several models, different frequencies; tried a tens unit, etc.
We think the herbs made the difference.
Would do the same again, given that we would still be fooled by the misinforma- tion given out by the CDC/IDSA that ticks have to remain on you for days for a Lyme infection and that deer ticks are the only menace on the East Coast.
Our infections came from nymph dog ticks in less than 5 hours.
Blue Skies........John
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
Morgellons is known to be a tenacious nightmare , so if the herbs fixed this , they must be powerful in combination. Thanks for sharing . This will help more people who need alternatives .
Posted by JimBoB (Member # 8454) on :
Ann: I didn't say the Artemisia HELPED my with LYME a lot more than Artemisinin.
What I said was, that I didn't feel much of anything happening with Artemisinin and DID feel some effects of Artemisia. HOWEVER, I was NOT taking it for Lyme.
I was taking it IN CASE I MAY have had Babesia. I was never tested for Babesia, but it is pretty common knowledge on these boards that IF you have the coinfections, SUCH AS Babesia, it will be much more difficult to get rid of Lyme.
So, I thought I would try it JUST IN CASE I DID have Babesia. Never tested for it.
It is all the other herbs I am taking, I am taking for Lyme D..
Jim Posted by JimBoB (Member # 8454) on :
Thanks for your posts here John. That clears up a lot of questions I have been pondering about WHAT you did exactly.
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