Im having some problems with my liver. It's even bothering when I eat! Damn IT!
I have tried coffee enemas before, but with not much success. Can someone please explain it they have helped your liver?? How can you tell and how long did it take to help??
Thanks Everyone! calilymer
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
yes they do help alot--
it has to be done correctly-- usually many times-
One of the best things you can do is drink Lots of water or better yet tea-Gallons a day-
I drink 2 to 5 gallons Everyday My liver tests come back perfect- 3 years-even my LLMD comments on how clean my tests come back --Jay-
Posted by James H (Member # 6380) on :
Drinking that much water you would want to be careful that your electrolytes do not get out of balance.
Tea would probably be better than water in that regard, but still might not replace all of what is lost. Gatorade? Maybe, but it has alot of sugar and other garbage that is not so good.
Just something to be aware of when drinking an unusually large mount of water.
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Don't know much about the cooffee enemas. I tied it several times but it mad me feel sicker afterwards . Guess everyones different.
I am on sporanox which is hard on the liver. Have been doing the following:
The 2 foods that are good for your liver are : beets & atichokes. (I buy the cans of artichoke hearst & eat alot of them lately too) I try to eat beets every night at dinner. Put some olive oil on them . I am too tired to cook fresh so I also get them canned at the moment. Fresh is always better though if I have the energy.
I put drops a few artichoke drops I get at raintree for my liver. I frink tons of herbal teas & lots of water in between.
Milk thistle is also good but unfortunately I can not tkae that as it does not agree with me.
Hang in there Dana
none of this is not medical advise just my 2 cents
Posted by CaliLymer (Member # 6509) on :
Thank you both for the responses!
I really thought more people would chim in?
Posted by minoucat (Member # 5175) on :
>>I really thought more people would chim in?
Well, there is the true-confessions embarrassment (geddit?) factor going here...
I think the short answer is, hardly anyone does this long enough to tell if it makes a difference. It's awkward, uncomfortable, and feels stupid.
One thing that is a lot easier, but I dunno if it's more effective, is a castor oil pack. My ND swears by them. I used them, but I did other things as well and I have no idea exactly what worked. You can google on it, and a basic recipe is here: http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T350155.html
I and the hubby use Enzymatic Therapy's Super Milk Thistle, with dandelion, licorice, and artichoke. I have a friend who swears by HepaPro, and another who finds that lymphatic drainage (by a truly expert practitioner)and IV glutathioneplus the usual liver supplements, has helped enormously.
Best of luck.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
This is strictly a nonmedical opinion. Anything that can go in my mouth is not going up my rear end.
I don't see how a coffee enema as time to reach the liver when it passes so quickly, but I will admit I don't know much about them. Hiker
Posted by MariaA (Member # 9128) on :
My nonmedical opinion is that any time the subject of coffee enema comes up online, one of us (often me) feels the need to joke about it. It's such an odd combination of things to do. Like, how did someone first think to try this?
Posted by karatelady (Member # 7854) on :
Maria, here's your answer:
Nurse, I'll take my coffee in a cup please.
During WWI, a nurse discovered that patients who received coffee grounds in their enemas recovered from serious wounds at a much faster rate than those who received regular enemas.
Posted by susan2health (Member # 10446) on :
I've been doing them 3 times/week followed by a colonic followed by a lactobaccilus enema to repopulate the colon. I do all of this at home with my own equipment. By the time I set up, do it, and put away the equipment it's 8 or 9 p.m. But if I don't do it, my sound sensitivity and confusion increase greatly. So I am getting rid of toxins that I otherwise can't get rid of. I hope I'm making progress, not just treading water.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
they gave me a bad taste in my mouth and I didnt notice two much. I was doing them every day for about a month. Now I just do them once in a while.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
How did that nurse during WW2 get coffee grinds into the enema water in the first place?
Seems like there is an easier way to help the liver toxicity.
There's a product called Liv-52 that's supposed to be good. I've been taking it as a preventitive measure. I haven't had liver problems but it may be useful. One doctor I saw told me to get a colonic but I'm not real into the idea.
Posted by AlisonP (Member # 7771) on :
I have done these. They seem to work pretty well as enemas go. The only difficulty I had with them was the caffeine in the coffee really affected me negatively. The colon can be very absorbent and I ended up feeling like I'd had a 6 shot espresso and couldn't sleep at all that night.
I've also used other things: diluted apple cider vinegar, wheatgrass, salt water, and a few others with great success. Yes, I am a freak. Yes, the process is not the most pleasant. Yes, I felt like an idiot and often had to supress hysterical laughter at the utter ridiculousness of the process. LOL
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
The coffee enema has been used for many years to detoxify the liver. It is a low-volume enema that remains only in the sigmoid colon. There is a duct between the sigmoid colon and the liver called the entero-hepatic circulation system. When the stool reaches this point, it contains many toxins, which are sent to the liver for detoxification. The coffee enema will increase the transit time in the bowel. The caffeine that is absorbed into the entero-hepatic system causes the liver ducts, including the bile ducts, to empty into the sigmoid colon and be eliminated. Releasing the toxins in the liver ducts, makes room for toxins from the body to enter the liver for detoxification. The alkaloids in the caffeine stimulate the production of glutathione-S-transferase, which is an enzyme that facilitates the liver detoxification pathways.
Coffee enemas will not waste minerals and electrolytes because they have already been absorbed in the previous sections of the intestines. The coffee enema is safe even for people who are sensitive to caffeine because the coffee remains in the sigmoid colon, where it will not be absorbed, provided the proper amount is used and the enema bag is not place too high.
Boil 1 quart of water in a non-aluminum pot. Add 2 tablespoons or more of coffee and continue to boil for 5 minutes. Remove pot from the heat and add 1 tablespoon of unsulfured molasses (optional). Cool to 90 degrees F. or less. Pour the coffee mixture through a fine mesh strainer into two 1 cup measuring cups. Clamp the end of the enema bag. Pour 1 cup of filtered coffee mixture into the enema bag. Release the clamp until the coffee begins to flow out, then clamp the bag again immediately.
Hang the enema bag at a height of about 3 feet, not higher. Lie on the floor and gently insert the nozzle. Use vegetable oil on the nozzle if needed. Release the clamp and let the coffee mixture flow into the sigmoid colon. Clamp the tubing as soon as there is a sensation of ''fullness'' or when the enema bag is empty and remove the nozzle. If possible, without forcing yourself, retain the enema for 10 minutes, then empty your bowel.
After emptying your bowel, repeat the process with the remaining (1 cup) of coffee mixture. If you cannot hold 1 cup of coffee mixture enema, take several smaller enemas.
When the bile duct empties, you will hear or feel a squirting sensation in the area of your right rib cage. After feeling the bile emptying, you can stop taking enemas for that day.
If you do not feel the bile duct emptying after one week of daily enemas, increase the strength of the coffee or take slightly larger volume enemas.
You should not feel nervous or jittery after the enema because the coffee does not get absorbed systemically. If you do feel nervous, jittery, have palpitations, or irregular heartbeats, after a coffee enema, reduce the amount of coffee by half or more.
Repeat enemas as needed to detoxify chemical toxins and/or allergic reactions.
You will need to buy a re-usable enema kit, available at most pharmacies. They are usually disposable (although they can be cleaned and reused for several months) and they are inexpensive. Distilled water. Organic coffee, any roasting level will do. French Press pot.
Preparing the Coffee
Bring 8 cups of water to a boil. Grind eight heaping spoonfuls of organic coffee. Put it in a french press pot. Pour the water over the coffee grounds and let it steep then cool for one hour. After this amount of time, the liquid should be about body temperature. If you stick your finger in the water it should be lukewarm, but not hot. Press the coffee grounds to the bottom, then pour the coffee liquid into the enema bag.
Follow the directions that accompany the enema kit. Lie on your right side, inject and retain the coffee for 10-20 minutes. I recommend lightly massaging your abdomen from left to right (up the left side, and then left to right just below the navel). Additionally, I recommend changing positions while retaining the coffee. After a few minutes turn over onto your back, a few minutes later switch to your left side before evacuating your bowels.
The effects of a coffee enema are different than a saline enema. The most important difference between a saline enema and a coffee enema is the presence of caffeine in the coffee. Caffeine, theophylline and theobromine, combine to stimulate the relaxation of smooth muscles causing dilatation of blood vessels and bile ducts. The effects of having a coffee enema are not the same as drinking coffee. The veins of the anus are very close to the surface of the tissue. The caffeine is therefore absorbed more quickly (and in higher concentration) than it is in when coffee is drunk.
Coffee has a chemical makeup that is stimulative. The enzymes in coffee, known as palmitates, help the liver carry away the toxins in bile acid. The coffee is absorbed into the hemorrhoidal vein, then taken up to the liver by the portal vein. With the bile ducts dilated, bile carries toxins away to the gastro-intestinal tract. Simultaneously, peristaltic activity is encouraged because of the flooding of the lower colon. Thus, when the colon is evacuated, the toxins and bile are carried out of the body.
In a non-metal pot or saucepan: empty 4 cups of filtered or distilled water 3/4 cup of organic coffee enema (finely ground) from health store Stir in the coffee to make sure all is mixed in the water, then: bring to a boil and boil for 3 to 5 minutes (while stirring occasionally)
Reduce heat and cover pot or saucepan with lid and let simmer for 15 to 20 minutes
Remove from stove element and let coffee enema cool down to room temperature
Strain coffee through fine sieve to remove as many coffee grinds as possible.
Because of the boiling process, some of the water evaporated, so add plain filtered or distilled water to the coffee to bring it up to 4 full cups.
Store the coffee in a sealed container and keep refrigerated.
The instructions I read said coffee enema stays good for 4 to 5 days and should be used within that time for optimum benefits.
Coffee Enema Set Up:
In a large measuring container (at least 4 cup size): Pour 1 cup of the concentrated organic coffy from the container in the fridge. Add 3 cups of filtered or distilled water to make 4 cups total. Pour diluted koffee into a saucepan and heat it until it is lukewarm.
Immediately pour it into the bucket or bag and do right away so it doesn�t get too cool.
In whichever way is most comfortable (kneeling, squatting or laying down) gently insert tube tip into the rectum for at least 4 inches if possible.
You can lubricate it with olive oil.
If there is rectal bleeding or severe pain or swelling, it is risky to force an the tube, as this may aggravate the problem or even perforate the bowel wall.
So, it is best to wait until any bleeding or severe discomfort passes before doing an douche.
It is best to place the bag bucket about 18 inches to 2 feet above floor level so gravity will send the coffee downward to your colon.
Any higher may result in too fast a flow and cause abdominal cramping and gas.
If the bucket is too low then the flow will be too slow.
Just make sure the level of the bag bucket is best for your particular comfort and needs. Each person has a different preference. After the tube is inserted as far as is comfortable, lay down on your Left Side and allow the lukewarm coffy to enter your colon.