I am curious if anyone has thought of or experimented with using the Marshall Protocol with herbs instead of Minocycline? I know Dr. K wrote a year or two back that he was hopeful that a non antibiotic version of the MP would emerge.
I always said that I would be the last person to even consider the sun avoidnce required with the MP because I pracrically grew up on water skis and sailboats, but I have noticed that over the last two years I have had an increasingly bad reaction to sunlight.
I got the D-Metabolites test done and my 1-25 D was a whopping 79 with the normal range being 20-60. MY 25-D was only 27 so my ratio was right around 3. According to the MP site this makes my test results about as tell-tale as you can get.
I have gotten to the point to where my GI tract just doesnt tolerate ABX anymore.
[ 11. June 2007, 01:24 AM: Message edited by: memphisbluesman ]
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Memphisb,
"I know Klinghardt wrote a year or two back that he was hopeful that a non antibiotic version of the MP would emerge."
Could you point me to that "writing"? In which context?
Dr. K. is not anti-abx in general (I was on short-term abx myself under his direction), and just wondering what he was talking or writing about. I am pretty sure that he thinks MP was disappointing when he tried it with certain people.
Take care.
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
welcome memphis!
please edit your post removing drs. last name, and only show DR. K! it's against rules of this board ok.
here's how to do this:
click on pencil to right side of your name, and that opens up both subject line and body text. now delete his last name after the K pleas. click edit send when done.
now do a SEARCH, found at top under new post.
type in Marshall Protocol or MP for 2nd try MEDICAL TOPIC LINE ANY DATE....make sure you have EDITED MY PROFILE TO SHOW LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME vs. default.
leave membership no. blank, hit send.
read ALL posts/replies about MP; many of them here. Posted by memphisbluesman (Member # 11570) on :
GIGI, I am referencing page 15 of 34 of the essay titled " A Look Beyond Antiobiotics". It is available in its entirety on Scott's website.
"Often patients develop sarcoidosis, which is rarely recognized (11). The Lyme infected lymph nodes produce abnormal amounts of 1.25 di-hydroxy vitamin D. The client often develops marked osteoporosis (most often in the spine) along with other more typical Lyme symptoms. The blood test (1.25 di-OH vit D) will usually reveal the pathology (levels over 45), necessitating therapy with the "M" protocol (18). It uses antibiotics together with the angiotensin II receptor blocker olmesartan -medoxomil. By adding the KMT lymph drainage technology twice/week results are often rapid and miraculous. We hope to find alternatives to the antibiotic regimen in the near future."
If Dr. K has a more updated opinion on the MP I would love to hear it. This essay is about 16 months old so I am sure he has treated several patients with the MP since then in order to build a stronger opinion one way or the other.
Betty, sorry about the name bit. I have actually been lurking here for over a year and rarely post. I can assure you that I have read every thread ever written about the MP. I simply am curious if anyone has experimented with an herbal version.
Posted by jarjar (Member # 8847) on :
The MP abx don't bother my stomach as they are low dose pulsed. I have heard others on this board mention that the MP abx don't upset their stomach either.
You only have to take a small dose of zith every 10 days and others every other day at low doses.
I do take Nature Biotics a S.B.O. product to protect my stomach.
With your 1.25 that high believe me you will feel a difference on the protocol.
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