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Posted by micul (Member # 6314) on :
 
You can certainly treat Bart with other drugs, but the Quins have the penetration power to get everywhere if used properly and given enough time.

The article below states that a 3 month time period may be necessary to assure erradication (same as what Dr B says is needed for Bart). Ladies don't have a prostrate or sperm ducts, but the female reproductive organs may be just as good at harboring unresolved infections/bacteria.

"Initial treatment of prostatitis usually involved antibiotics. Most antibiotics cannot chemically penetrate well into the prostate gland or ducts; so only those, few which have good penetration, should be used. Even those antibiotics, which penetrate well, require long courses of therapy to be effective.

Inadequate treatment of a prostate infection usually results in a rapid recurrence. The most effective antibiotics for prostatitis currently available belong to a drug class called quinolones and include the first five medications listed below. While effective, quinolones tend to be quite expensive costing about ten dollars a day.

The most effective oral antibiotics for prostatitis are:

1. Levofloxacin (Levaquin)
2. Ciprofloxacin (Cipro)
3. Ofoxacin (Floxin)
4. Trovafloxacin (Trovan)
5. Norfloxacin (Noraxin)
6. Vibramycin, Doxcycycline (Doryx, Vibra-Tabs or Monodox)
7. Minocycline (Minocin)
8. Sulfa-Trimethoprim(Bactrim, Septra)
9. Trimethoprim alone (Trimpex, Protoprim)
10. Erthromycin (Eryc, PCE)
11. Carbenicillin (Geocillin)

A minimum of a six-week course of antibiotics is necessary and twelve weeks is usually recommended. Antibiotic therapy should continue for as long necessary to eliminate all traces of infection, inflammation and irritation from the prostate. As long as a particular antibiotic appears to be effective, we do not recommend changing to a different antibiotic.

When one antibiotic no longer appears to be helping, then another antibiotic is chosen and treatment begins again. In some cases, continuous low dose antibiotic therapy is needed to adequately control the symptoms of prostatitis."

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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
thanks for sharing. The majority of my symptoms are in my pelvis and I have Interstitial cystitis.

I also tested positive for Bart.
 
Posted by chamade (Member # 11472) on :
 
This is interesting. Four years ago I had a very scary episode of "urinary track infection" and prostatitis. Basically I went to the toilet one morning and urinated pure blood. A few tests later nothing was found in my culture, but they put me on levaquin 200mg for 10 days which cleared it all up(later I relapsed and 2 weeks of cipro fixed it again). This was preceded by episodes of really bad joint pain, "burning pelvis" and sore throats that lasted a month...but back then all these different symptoms seemed unrelated.

My neuropathic pain was the lowest while on Levaquin . I am now on Avelox (Moxifloxacin) and again there are improvements.
I never had any side effects from this group of abx and I have taken them 4 times in the last 4 years.

PS. is bacterial resistance developed to a specific antibiotic(levaquin, moxifloxacin, cipro, etc.) or to a whole class(quinolones)?
I am affraid that my bart is resistant to moxifloxacin since I used levaquin and cipro in the past for short periods of time.
 
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
Hmm...I'd rather spend a decade on a macrolide than

a week on a quinolone, having read what I have about them.

[ 10. March 2008, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: adamm ]
 
Posted by chamade (Member # 11472) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adamm:
Hmm...I'd rather spend a decade on a macrolide than

a week on a quinolone, having read what I did about them.

It's not so much about how long you take it, but how deep can the abx penetrate and how effective it is against BLO bart.

10 years of zithro and you are pretty much guaranteed to require a liver transplant.

I am sure there are cases of quinolone injuries, but they are not universal as some make it out to be. Everyone I know that took them didn't have side-effects. My LLMD said he used it on hundreds on his patients and one of them ended up with a tendon injury while playing basketball.
No doubt there are risks, but it's good to put things back into perspective...
 
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
I read on one old post that, like Lyme, BLO

is a bioweapon. Any evidence supporting this claim?
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
That was also my experience, tosho.

All my remaining symptoms were gone after taking Levaquin. I had no problems with it. I had a major herx, but after about 6 weeks, I was well .... not just better, but well.

Now, except for babesia (air hunger), I am symptom-free. I am off all abx, only on anti-malarials and herbs. I credit Levaquin with getting me to this point with only one year of treatment (infected 35 years ago).

I feel the best ever.

Thank you for this thread, it's interesting knowing why Levaquin could have such a dramatic effect.
 
Posted by valymemom (Member # 7076) on :
 
I also had good success with levaquin. I used it for 9 weeks at the beginning of my therapy and 6-9 weeks (not sure) at the end of my treatment.

I did not have any side-effects or symptoms from this drug. It did get rid of my bart symptoms.

I have been symptom-free for over a year, but as a precaution I started a daily regimen of resveratrol and samento (with other supplements)

At one point when I ran out of these two, I stopped both for about 6 weeks, and had tingling & numbness crop up so I quickly cycled these back in with the other daily supplements.

No symptoms since.
 


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