I live in a naturally humid and therefore moldy ish environment (area of the country).
I've today just had some people from my apartment finally address the mold in the bathroom.
They found it on the sheetrock (both) and some on the wood. They are taking care of it by replacing new sheetrock and sprayed a biocide on it or a microbial alcohol based spray.
Ought I to assume this is the end of this? Anyone have experience with this?
They don't think the mold needs to be tested, they claim it doesn't meet state law standards for testing (continues 25 sq ft area)
I've gotten a headache just from the smell and the work they are doing.
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
is not that easy ..read the book that Dr J S has released.Than you will learn more.
Posted by painted turtle (Member # 7801) on :
Hi Alv, I'll check that out.
I'm calling around town to check into getting this mold tested, I have some tile and sheetrock in a plastic baggie and one sheetrock that's pretty big leaning against the wall.
It's black mold. But one place I called said she will test $35 just to tell the Genus.
She doesn't do the mycotoxin test since she said mold spores can turn this function on and off.
Does anyone know if getting the Genus result will help determine whether this is the cause of
Respiratory, etc symptoms???
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
I would get it tested. A tape test with Moldworks might be sufficient. If its stachy, you need to be more careful than they are saying, but you would already have released toxins into the air. If its a less virulent mold, not so bad.
Posted by painted turtle (Member # 7801) on :
Oxygenbabe,
Definitely have released mold toxins into the air.
They are doing a slop shod job of putting the bathroom back together.
Just got off the phone w/2 people.
Said it's pretty obvious its unhealthy mold, but...blah blah blah.
Wow, this is a heap of mess. It would cost me too much to have them come out and check the air quality now.
And it doesn't seem to matter about getting the mold tested, since it is definitely mold.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
That's totally not true. Cladosporium is a common bathroom mold that grows on tile grout, is black, allergenic, but not toxic.
Certain species of stachy, not all, but certain, give off extremely poisonous toxins that make you ill. If it's stachy and they've torn it up without proper sealing off of the area, then toxins are spread and you have to figure out what to do about that.
I would test it to find out. Pay $50 for a tape test from moldworks.
Posted by painted turtle (Member # 7801) on :
Yeah, meanwhile, they used a biocide on the wood which I inadvertently touched, not knowing it was applied
Thinking the moisture of the wood and inulation was from the moisture causing the mold
Now my face is burning.
Maybe I've opened a heap of worms now!
Hopefully, aside from this glue smell......as they put the wall back together.........
All will be okay.
I will likely get it tested.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
If it was stachy, and a species of stachy that gives off mycotoxins (not all do) then it is not okay. The toxins won't degrade under 600 degrees heat. They are stable, persist for years, and are very bad for the immune system esp in sensitive people.
If they remediated without caution and it is a poison stachy, the mycotoxins (not spores--those are different) will be all around.
Hoepfully its a generic black mold or an innocent stachy.
Posted by painted turtle (Member # 7801) on :
So it would be wise to get the Genus, at least.
There is someone in town who will analyze it for Genus only, for $35.
They did not remediate properly, this much is certain....despite my best efforts.
Not sure what to do about that yet.
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
Of course they don't want to test the mold. They could be liable if it is detrimental to your health.
Mold remediation is very difficult. They should be very careful while doing it so as not to spread the mold around the house. They need to close the vents and close off the room so that the spores don't get spread around the house.
If you have carpeting, they need to remove it and replace it. You should be wearing a mask while all of this is going on or be far away from the mold.
As others have said, it is the mycotoxins that are the problem once the mold is gone. I would move if I were you since you don't own the place.
Some people have to get rid of all their belongings because they are ruined by the spores.
It is much harder if not impossible to get rid of lyme while being exposed to mycotoxins.
Please do some research. Find out what kind of mold is in the apt. MOVE if at all possible.
Some of us don't make enough antibodies to get rid of the toxins from mold.
Please take this seriously.
Take care, Terry
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
turtle
get your self some 3M dust masks
Number - N92 or N95--
Wear them while work is being done because spores WILL be released -
also wear after work is done and while sleeping-
Black mold can be stackie botrus (spelling) Its Very bad for you--Jay--
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
It is not the spores that ruin belongings permanently, it is the mycotoxins. They persist for years.
The spores can be degraded by ozonation or heat.
The mycotoxins persist.
The bad molds give off some bad mycotoxins.
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
What I'm saying as far as spores is that if you move and your belongings are covered in spores, you can transfer your mold problem to your new environment given the right conditions. Mold needs moisture to live.
Yes, the mycotoxins are the real problem as far as causing illness.
Please, if you stay in your apartment, make sure that the problem that caused the mold growth in the first place is found and fixed. Otherwise, removing the wall board etc. is not going to help.
As oxy has said - it is the mycotoxins that are left behind that are really the cause of illness.
I have been working with my muscle testing herbalist for a way to get rid of the mycotoxins. I am doing a protocol with a 4 step process using essential oils and diffusers. It is not cheap but hopefully it will be effective.
Terry
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
MOld was the reason that my lyem was activated .I started having respiratory problems ...and could not breath.They checkes my lungs and told me I was fine.
But i honeslty could not breath.Than I got better after I moved from that appartment but tested HIGH positive for candida albicans and mold spores..That was 12 years ago and no body had a clue.Buy the book that I recomended and follow the steps.Yes you can get teh spores with the closes that you have and you do not want that.
Stop testing read the book and make a plan.Molds CAN REALLY kill YOU !!Imagine on top of neurotocins released from LYME ?
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
I believe you can wash your clothes and run them in the dryer and probably denature most of the spores. Don't you think? A hot dryer for an hour? (For clothes). You can wash your hair, your body, and wipe down wood furniture if it is not porous, and particularly metal.
Upholstered furniture--forget it. It's going to harbor dust mites and fungi *anyway* so don't take that with you.
Posted by painted turtle (Member # 7801) on :
This is going to be a process that takes some time.
Certainly the mold has affected my health. Now I have traveled to visit my sister in a different state and have been battling a migraine all day, thank God for Treximet.
We are going to get the mold tested as the first step just to know what the Genus is and take it from there.
There is likely mold everywhere, where I live and so I will need to think all this through and do more research.
The summer before last I even had mushrooms growing in my plants on the patio. A couple weeks ago I found a huge mushroom growing on the tree in the back wooded area of where I live. So there is mold everywhere and I will not likely actually escape it.
From what I understand so far in the research I have done, the mold is as tricky as the borrelia, especially the mycotoxin part of it.
Thanks all for your responses...this is definitely a to be continued. When I return I will have to figure out how to proceed.
What is certain is that they did a hurried job in cleaning it out and didn't do it properly, so I will have to contend with all of that too.