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Posted by Geneal (Member # 10375) on :

My LLMD has finally given me approval to add art into my babesia treatment. [Smile]

I have a reliable source to purchase it, but am not sure how much I should take.

I weighed 99lbs during LLMD visit last week. [Eek!]

He is very concerned about my weight loss (I think I was hyperthyroid).

While I have permission to take it, he has never had another patient do art.

It comes in 100mg capsules.

Any suggestions?

My LLMD is very concerned about neuro-toxicity issues.

I just want to get past this babesia treatment for good.

Thanks for any advice. I know that you all are not doctors.

Hugs,

Geneal

Posted by smartbuck (Member # 15179) on :

here is a link to a lyme doctors protocol
using arteminsia for babesia ...

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=875251&p=1

Posted by Julie F. (Member # 15956) on :

I just finished a month of artemisinin. I was taking 100 mg./3 times per day (in conjunction w/Zithromax). I weigh about 128 lbs., if that's useful.

Best of luck to you!

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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The toxicity concern stems from a very few reports in rats/mice and, often, with very high doses of a strong derivative of artemesia, not artemisinin itself.

Humans, at doses intended for humans, have shown no problems with toxicity. That is not to say this is a walk in the park. It's still something that makes many feel "icky" - but so does babesia.

Some of the problems with someone being able to tolerate this better than someone else can be due to the fact that artemisinin uses the Cytochrome P-450 liver detox pathway.

Stress on that pathway can result in excess porphyrins and that can create all sorts of toxic effects. Liver support and being sure to eat small amounts of complex carbs 6 times a day will help keep the porphyrins levels down if that is a concern. Fasting will create a higher level and, therefore, higher toxicity in general.

Blueberries and natural beta carotene are also excellent to reduce the porphyrin load.

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(Of course, you'd want to consume absolutely no alcohol whatsoever as that would change everything. Lyme patients are instructed to avoid alcohol but that does not always happen, so the safety note is really important.)

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Posted by tickbattler (Member # 14873) on :

hi Geneal,

One of my 4 year old boys is taking artimisinin (100 mg twice per day). He weighs about 37 pounds.

Dr. J in CT has him on this, and after about 10 days of it, his night sweats went away! He is also continuing the Mepron, which he had been on for a month prior to the artimisinin. (He also is taking bactrim and azith, for his lyme and bart.

For what it's worth, Dr. J said that some babs is resistant to Mepron, especially the babesia duncani strain.

Hope this helps,

tickbattler

Posted by Melanie Reber (Member # 3707) on :

Hey Miss G,

if I were you, I would start low...probably 300mg per day.

My doc had me start with 600mg and it was NOT a good thing! After a LONG delay in treatment I finally was able to work back up to 300mg and stay there.

Best to be on the safe side, you can always go up later if needed.

M

Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :

My doc had me take one capsule twice per day on an empty stomach. Took it Friday through Sunday each week.

I weighed 112 lbs. at the time.

I got rid of babs taking artimesinin and Bactrim DS.