I'm really glad the subject of energy medicine has been a hot topic around here lately. All of the posts on the subject have been very useful. It's my opinion that energy medicine is one of the most promising areas for us to investigate.
I've spent many hours in the last few days here reading everyone's posts on the Lightworks. However, I'm wondering where people are with it now that they've had a few months to use it. I've tried to find this info in current posts, but it is either not there or too buried for me to find (and I have done a LOT of searching!) :-)
sparkle7, bejoy, lymie_in_md, steelbone, others? Any update on how you are doing would be greatly appreciated: Are you still using your Lightworks? Do you think it has helped you to heal, and in what ways? What settings work best for you, etc...
Best,
- Andrew
[ 14. November 2008, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: AndrewInCA ]
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I have and have used both. I don't see any comparison between Lightworks and Bionic. LW may provide some help, but I think they are in a different league. I also have seen several people have VERY strong responses to the Bionic which I have not heard of or had personally with the Lightworks. Yes, you might herx a bit or feel bad, but it is an order of magnitude of that often felt with the Bionic.
Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
I'm not in any way trying to compare the Lightworks with the Bionic. I understand that they are very different machines, and I don't think it's a matter of one vs. the other.
Like I said, I'm just looking for current feedback on the Lightworks.
- Andrew
Posted by karatelady (Member # 7854) on :
Andrew,
I've done 3 treatments with my Light Works so far. My body can only handle around 15 minutes every 4 days or so.
The machine is definitely doing something and after the die-off (or whatever it is doing) I feel better. I do a lot of detoxing on those days.
Nothing, and I mean nothing has ever made me feel better so this is new for me! I'm cautiously excited as it is still early in the treatment but I will keep you posted.
Sandy
Posted by lymie_in_md (Member # 14197) on :
Scott, I have to disagree with you on the lightworks as far as impact. It can have a large impact on those very sick. The first time I used it, I was really sick for 3 days and that is with a lot of binders, drainage...etc... After that I was fine and getting better. I can use the lightworks for about 2 hours a day with no impact.
You are right as far as power is concerned. I've calculated the bionic being at least 10 times the power. But your only using it a little less then 2 hours a week. If you increase steadily using the lightworks you might get close to the bionic. Say use the lightworks 10 hours a week. I don't use it that much any more. In a fact I probably only use it 2 hours a week now, mostly on the left side of my face over the tmj and the back of my neck.
So start slowly with the lightworks and work to using a little bit more over time. Use a tensor with a borrelia nosode and see if there is improvement. I hope to be getting the German tensor soon to confirm whether I still have lyme. If I can confirm with it, I'll take a trip to baltimore to have it confirmed with my practioner. I feel pretty certain I don't have lyme anymore.
It could be the lightworks is a good way for very sick people to work up to the bionic treatment.
Oh, we still don't know too much about the lumen-90. It may be more powerful then the bionic at least in specification it is bit more powerful. And the reason, the lumen-90 uses what are called SLEDs or super LEDs.
Posted by Angelica (Member # 15601) on :
Andrew your mailbox is full.
A.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I also disagree with Scott. I had a very strong healing reaction after using the LightWorks consistently for an hour a day for about 2-3 weeks. (PS - I had Lyme, undiagnosed, for 9 years. Currently, I've been treating Lyme for about 2 years now with various methods.)
I never had a detox reaction like that from using abx or anything else. It lasted about a month or month & a half. I feel that the infrared light exposure may be cumulative.
Since there are no studies about infrared light & Lyme, it's really hard to compare the devices or even the effect of infrared light on people with Lyme. We really don't know if stronger means better then less & more frequent or less & less frequent.
I was able to become about 70% better after using the LightWorks. It is tricky since we are in uncharted waters. It's hard to tell what anyone can expect from using infrared light with Lyme.
People with Lyme react differently to using infrared light than people who don't have Lyme.
After the big detox I went though, I found that I became very sensitive to the infrared light. It's kind of hard for me to give advice about it since I'm no expert. I can just post my experiences.
I'm going through a great deal of stress right now due to personal reasons - so, I think it has affected my progress.
Initially, I was testing to have no Lyme after the big detox. Due to alot of stress & doing no treatment at all for about 2 months, I have begun to test for Lyme again. I can feel it, too...
I have been using a pendulum to gauge my progress & what treatment options to use. It is currently indicating that I stop using the light & go back to using the full Cowden protocol & some additional supplements.
Since we don't know how much light to use, how frequently, which setting, etc., it seems to help to be able to use a dowsing device like a pendulum or a BioTensor as some people have. Some also are able to use ART or applied kinesiology.
Whether you use the Bionic 880 or the LightWorks or some other brand of infrared device - they are all very strong & can cause severe reactions.
I think it's irresponsible to say that one device is a toy while another is a cure. We just don't know enough about what infrared light can do - especially to people with Lyme.
I do think it is worthwhile to experiment with it but you have to be careful. Some people just aren't into doing the experimenting on their own. If that is the case, I would avoid using infrared light.
Some people have also severely criticized me & ridiculed me here for posting info about my experiments with the LightWork - so I stopped posting.
In my opinion - we need to be open to all forms of treatment. Lyme is very complex & takes time to heal. We each have different & unique manifestations of this illness with other co-factors such as genetics, other illnesses, economic factors, stress, psychology, spiritual beliefs, etc.
There is no one way to do things. No one seems to have the answer - so, we just have to keep trying things to see what works for us as individuals.
It's ignorant to me to have people here saying that they know everything & that there is only one way to do it. I would be cautious of people who post things as if they know everything & that their way is the only way to deal with Lyme & co-infections.
Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
SForsgren, sparkle, lymie_in_md, karatelady - thanks for the updates.
Everyone - please don't turn this into a comparison between the Lightworks and the Bionic. That's another topic! :-) I'm just trying to compile feedback on the Lightworks.
bejoy and steelbone - I'd love to hear from you, and others too!
Thanks!
- Andrew
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
PS - re: from my post - "Initially, I was testing to have no Lyme after the big detox."
I just want to clarify... by "testing" I mean that I was using a pendulum. This is a form of "energetic testing".
I didn't have any blood tests done.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Sparkle what do you mean "I became very sensitive to the light." What specifically would happen (after your healing crisis had passed)? Thanks. Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
I have used both lightworks and the bionic
IMO the bionic is far more superior. It's like comparing a pinto to a maserati..
I got very little reaction from lightworks but i cant say that about the bionic.
Again everyone is differsnt so i'm sure that plays a big factor....
One side note. I never used lightworks with nosodes.. So that could be the main reason for no reaction...Hope this helps
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
O2 - it's kind of hard to explain. I wasn't light sensitive in the sense that I couldn't go out in the sun. It was just that I felt kind of over stimulated.
The infrared light started to feel like it made things worse - like too much detoxing, sort of like a slight painful feeling from the light.
The detox I went through was very intense. I didn't want to push it. The light was the obvious cause of the detox. It was sort of like if you have diarrhea - you aren't going to take a laxative.
I had the sensation of alot of toxins in my intestines. I took lots of binders, charcoal, clay, etc. I assume the toxins were from killing the spirochetes but I don't know for sure.
I used the pendulum & it indicated that I should not use it for a while. So, I stopped. I went to the park & sat in the sun for a bit instead. I purposely exposed my wrists to the sun (that was one area where I used the LightWorks).
I don't know how I would react to something stronger like the Bionic 880 or the Lumen 90... Seemed like the LightWorks was too strong as it was.
I think Bejoy only uses it for a few seconds on areas of the body that she determined through ART.
Of course, something that's $7,000 is not going to be the same as something that's $300... I don't think the point of this thread is to compare the devices. The initial question is - what exactly does the LightWorks do?...
Steel - how long did you use the LightWorks & how did you use it? What body areas, how long, which settings, etc.
There have been people who used the LightWorks while on abx & they had an extreme reaction. I have also heard of people who used the Bionic 880 & had an extreme reaction, too. Some have PMed me...
My boyfriend - who does not have Lyme - can use the LightWorks with no problem. He never has a detox reaction or anything like that. He loves it & uses it alot.
After not using it for 2 months - I tried it a few times (for about 20 minutes on various areas - mostly, my back since I have pain there) & I started feeling like I was going to go into another detox again. Specifically, I felt toxins accumulating in my intestinal area.
I stopped using it. I'm in the middle of moving - so, I can go through something like that right now.
It might be that I need to use it for alot less time & slowly work it up. Just like taking an herb or something strong that causes a herx...
I don't have the time to experiment with it now. It will have to wait until I have more time & space to give it further thought.
Also, I never used it with the noodes. This may help to give the treatment some sort of focus but I don't know. I just figured I'd try it without the nosodes to begin with.
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
I used it on the points from the chart someone posted a while back. Used it for about 300 seconds on each point.
I used so many different frequencys with it. So can really point to one. Now that i have the bio-tensor i could ask it what frequency to use if i was going to use it again.
just posting my experience since i was asked. I have nothing against LW...The biggest reason for no results with it could of been the fact i didnt use any nosodes with it....
[ 16. November 2008, 07:40 AM: Message edited by: steelbone ]
Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
I have experimented a few times with the lightworks, and had extreme herx or just movement of the pain and problems to other places not treated.
It's powerful for those with lyme, because the lyme moves away from the light. NOt sure if it is actually dying off...just running away?
For example, my daughter, who has lyme and co-, had surgery on her ankle, to remove a large piece of dead bone giving her extreme pain. Used the lightworks for healing, the pain went away and swelling down, but pretty immediately every other symptom of lyme came back. It's been a month of flu like and neuro symptoms and other joint pain that have been unbearable.
I tried it first on my knee, which is my swollen and painful lyme problem. After a few minutes, the pain went away, ;and after 1/2 hour after the treatment, my left pinky finger would not move, and felt arthritic...never had that before. I was afraid to use the lightworks again, and waited for the pain in the finger to go away. After three days, it was the same, so I used the lightworks on it for 1 minute and it left.
I have a strong sense, that the light moves the lyme and co, away from the treated area, and onto someplace else. I can feel it! I have been studying the bionic threads, and believe now I should have waite4d to use the lightworks with nosodes/biotenser and have a prepared detox ready for immediate use.
Lightworks is powerful.
I have decided to not use the lightworks until we are both off antibiotics. We will be treated first with the bionic 880, and hold off on the lightworks until the lyme is gone. Then use it without the possiblility of moving the lyme deeper into other tissues and organs.
I have neuro lyme symptoms, and do not want to aggrivate that right now!
LP
Posted by maureen2174 (Member # 11471) on :
LP- are you going to Germany to get treated?
You can PM me if you want.
thanks
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Hey, BlueAngel, can you give stock predictions too? Please post them!
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Yeah, Angelica . It's so nice to deal in certainties, and BlueAngel was clearly dealing in unalloyed certainties, so I am hoping she posts some stock predictions. But I'd better stop now. It's clear the folks at LN Europe didn't feel they were getting enuf attention, so they came here to post their thread.
Posted by lymie_in_md (Member # 14197) on :
From Blue Angel:
quote:So many people are trying to get on board to get their own machines, or get into groups so that it will be more affordable. It has been quite a feeding frenzy over at LNUSA. And what is it all based on?.......testimonies. Not one test from Igenex, or any other reputable lab to back up a lyme free Dx. Some people have said that they feel better. But that can easily be explained from the IV Ozone and nurtitional IV's that this Dr does. They can get these same treatments here and feel better too.
Doesn't this remind you of that old story, ``The Emperor's New Clothes.''
Ok, you name me one reputable lab that can guarantee anyone is free from lyme? Can you, igenex can't, you can have lyme and no bands no matter how sensitive the test. Your immune system could be handling lyme and have it sequestered in the body.
Some people here are trying to explore energetic testing and what it offers. Why would you post here, what is your point? Or is your point to ridicule us for what some are doing here? And why would you do that? Do you secretly want to go to Germany? And you don't know how to approach the issue?
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I just want to say that I am not against whatever treatment that anyone wants to do...
In my case, I wanted to experiment with the infrared light since I couldn't afford to go to Germany or buy a Bionic 880. After using the LW, I found that it was something that deserved more attention & study.
I don't really think you can say that it drives the Bb deeper... there's no actual proof that this is happening. From what I have found by reading studies of infrared light is that it boosts ATP production. I posted the studies here on Lymenet several times. They have been done by NASA, Darpa & other reputable researchers.
This is the most tangible evidence of healing with infrared light that I could find to support it's effect.
I have tried homeopathy on several occasions... sometimes it works & sometimes if doesn't (for me). I can see that it may be useful. I'm not completely convinced that it has or doesn't have an effect with the light. All we have is some anecdotal evidence about this...
We would really have to have a double blind study of using infrared light with & without nosodes to know for sure if it has an effect. From what I have seen posted about Dr. W is that he feels the Bionic 880 would work but it just takes longer without the nosodes.
The use of the light is experimental. What I have noticed is that people with Lyme seem to be effected by the infrared light differently than people who don't have it. This is pretty significant to me.
Steelbone- If the LW is 10 times less strong than the Bionic 880 (as Bob from Maryland suggests)... you would need to use it for longer than 300 seconds to have a similar result to the Bionic 880 - if this is even possible. Perhaps you didn't use it long enough?
I'm not here to criticize anyone's experience. It's just that all of this really needs more study. Based on my research, infrared light is a significant new form of healing. We just don't know enough about it & how it effects people with Lyme.
Whether you use the LW or any other device - it's all experimental at this point. I think it's worth further study. Saying that it's hocus pocus is ignorant. There are valid published studies about using infrared light for healing.
How to use it to heal Lyme - is another story. I just want to caution people that even though the LW is $300 as compared to more expensive devices - it is powerful.
We are all different - so, it's hard to come up with a protocol that will fit everyone's needs. Therefore, we just have to keep experimenting.
You do have to be very careful with it. It may have unexpected results. I have heard that adverse reactions are particularly bad for people who are using abx while using the LightWorks.
From what I have read, Dr. W's protocol recommends that people stop using abx for at least a week or two (if not longer) prior to using the infrared light.
If you don't stop taking abx & choose to use the infrared light, it's kind of like asking for trouble - in my opinion. It seems that the two do not mix.
Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
The lightworks is working very well for me.
I worked up from initial treatments of under two minutes a day to about 40 minutes about twice a week.
I have been inconsistent with amount of time or regularity spent with the machine over the last three weeks due to a death in the family, however I am still using it with remarkable success.
In relation to that situation, I have to say that my health has remained remarkably stable, with my adrenals getting steadily stronger, and my cortisol replacement reducing by about 2.5 mg a week, despite the additional stress. This says to me that I have much less infection in my system to fight.
I use the lightworks with specific nosodes testing positive for my system.
I have been using LYM from DB which contains ten potencies of borrelia burdorferi, and homeopathics for meningitis and hepatitis.
I have also been using a nosode for strep pneumonia which still tests as a bit problematic in my jaw and sinuses. The sores in my nose have cleared up, as has the gum fistula. (also using herbals grapefruit seed and ZAo Xiu for this)
In addition, I am using a nosode for microsporidia, which has been very effective in treating the remaining symptoms of interstitial cystitis.
I have also used nosodes for klebsiella pneumonia.
I place the nosodes in a small glass vial and tape them to my solar plexus during light treatment. Some I do every other day, some twice a week, some once a week, as energy testing indicates, and as my time for personal care allows.
I treat as testing indicates the following locations: forhead, base of scull, jaw and sinuses, thyroid, thymus, above and below navel, gates - accupuncture points of hands and feet, sometimes lymph, sometimes organs, esp liver, spleen, kidneys.
I use 880 near infrared, and tend to follow the printout for which setting is appropriate for each kind of tissue or organ. My testing is generally consistent with the settings as listed by sharinghealth.com
I am looking forward to compiling a comprehensive test kit of numerous fungal, viral, and bacterial testers and treatment nosodes, so I can see whatever else I may be harboring, and also help to test others.
I have also used lightworks successfully to boost neurotransmitters.
I do chiropractic adjustments every two to four weeks, and I take many nutritional supplements.
I have not been doing IV therapy, although I would definitely choose to do IV glutathione, magnesium, and C if I were more ill, and having difficult herxes. I would also do daily sweats. (I do this only about twice a week now.)
Lyme shows at the moment as not needing any treatment. I will soon go through every organ of my body, including eyes and brain, with a fine tooth comb with this nosode.
Lyme treatment in the lightworks and nosode manner tested as more necessary after I took quite a bit of grapefruit seed extract.
My take on this is that testing shows lyme as "gone" when it is encapsulated in a cyst form, and it shows up as needing treatment when a cyst buster is introduced.
Posted by GraceT (Member # 16558) on :
Hi Andrew. I use the LightWorks. I like it. Super easy to use.
At first I did not feel anything much, except a good - hummm - feeling of goodness maybe. After using it for only 30 seconds on the 8-10 meridians...
One night I was watching TV and used both the 660 and 880 sides for all the A - G settings for approx. 1 min. per meridian. Within one hour my neuro symptoms became very loud.
I felt a herx of head pains, ear buzzing/ringing louder, and pressure in my head.
I use Gabapentin and Kavanace at night to sleep. Took much longer that night to get my brain to sleep.
Next day few days I noticed I could be around some things that used to really bother me...sounds like TV, music, and so forth.
I also use a Rife 1x/week. But I use them days apart so I can tell what my improvements are.
Yes - - It's helping me peel some symtoms back.
~Smiles, Grace ~ Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks Bejoy. I just didn't have the focus to do it in the way you are... I will try to do it in the way you describe after I get through moving. You have really taken it far!
I can see what you said about the cysts is true. I think I experienced it first hand!
Also, I was reading something about how neyrotoxins are expelled from the body. They exit through the intestines.
"The body tries to rid itself of the neurotoxins by excreting them into the intestines via the bile. This, however, does not work because these small compounds are re-absorbed from the GI tract and continue to poison the system. This is termed entero- hepatic circulation."
I think this is what was happening to me when I used the infrared light of the LW. It would happen only when I used the LW - not when I used the Cowden herbal protocol or abx.
I think it's significant. In my case, I have to concentrate on how to absorb the neurotoxins properly. If you don't absorb them for elimination - they can re-circulate into your system.
This is probably the case for people with the toxin elimination gene problem. I never got a test for this but I assume it's probably difficult for most people to eliminate neurotoxins.
The key (in my case) may be to proceed more slowly, use alot of binders, & use a cyst buster like grapefruit seed extract (Yeast Cleanse was always good for me).
I also recall reading about some good European products for drainage - You can do a search on Google for further info about this.
I really think all of the inquiry about infrared light & other types of alternative healing has opened the door to some very successful experimenting.
I was a bit afraid after I had a big detox reaction. I really felt I was pretty far out there with no idea of how to progress. I was amazed that I did make some good progress with the LightWorks, though.
There were some events in my life that were happening simultaneously that I had to deal with (2 deaths in the family & a cross country move plus other personal things).
I believe that if more people post what they do - we can all learn from each other to help ourselves. We all have different manifestations of this illness. I believe it is possible to come up with our own unique protocols if we are thoughtful, creative, & willing to experiment.
I can't say it enough - you have to be careful, though. The LightWorks is not a toy even though it's not as expensive as other devices.
If you don't want to risk it - you should look for some other way to treat yourself.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Thanks bejoy grace and sparkle. Sparkle you can try zeolite or nanochitosan for toxins. Or even activated charcoal which I think you did do. Or oils--the way scientology did it. I do think a liver flush will flush out the GI tract and take toxins with it.
Posted by tonyp (Member # 14960) on :
Tried my Lightworks last night for 30 minutes on 10 or so different areas. ( forehead, neck, wrist, calfs, temple, etc)
Today, I feeling absolutely crazy. My head is ready to explode with a severe headache I am also on abx ( biaxin and Flagly) Did I stir things up?
I am wondering if this is a bit overkill or do I have to reduce the time that I use it
Tony
Posted by lymie_in_md (Member # 14197) on :
You probably did too much too fast. You'll have to get glutathione if it in capsules open the capsule and dump the contents in your mouth. If you can get glutathione lozenges it might be better.
It would be better to take the glutathione sublingually it will go straight to your head and help detoxify. You'll need some binders too! Your about to overload your body with toxins. Apple pectin and activated charcoal combination might work best. And drink plenty of fresh squeezed lemon juice with filtered water.
Just guessing what you might be up against.
Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
I get very thirsty from lightworks. I think a pitcher of water is in order with every usage. Dehydration could contribute to headaches. You also need that water as a vehicle for toxin elimination!
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I don't think it's a good idea to combine the infrared light with antibiotics. Several people that I know of have had severe reactions.
For detox - I used psylium seed, charcoal, nutritional clay & some other non-psylium bowel cleansers. I also drank alot of iced green tea. It was the summer & I was craving it like crazy... It does make you very thirsty.
I have used zeolites & nanochitosan but they didn't seem to be as effective for me as the first detoxifiers I mentioned.
I think chlorella is good, too.
I was also using a whey product (Immunepro RX) to increase glutathione. I heard it doesn't work if you supplement with it directly but you can take things to increase production. Maybe Bob has some info that I haven't heard about...?
tonyp - I think you just have to give it time before you use the LW again. It's very strong for some people.
I think what you are going through will pass in time. Just take it easy for a bit. Try to take as many binders as you can to absorb the toxins.
Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
bejoy, others...
When you use the nosodes, do you shine the light through the nosode attached to your solar plexus, or is it just taped there while you apply the light to the other areas?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Lymeparfait and all,
I have been using energetic tests to treat lyme and co for some time (more than a year, certainly).
I can tell you that every time you hit it right (following what your tests say), the symptoms will change almost immediately.
In my view, it doesn't necessarily mean you are getting worse or that lyme is only moving. It can mean, you are moving on with treatment in the good way. When nothing moves and you remain with same symptoms for even 2 weeks, for me, it means failure in the right treatment.
A bit like battles with coinfections. Attack it, it will fight back the best way it can (symptoms may increase or fade), then suddenly, they die for good but another coinfection comes up. New symptoms arise. It needs new treatment again.
You kill it again, it will fight back until it loses (if you get the right treatment). Symptoms will be constantly moving around.
Everytime I don't get the right treatment, I'll have unchanged symptoms, my health condition gets stuck, I don't see any change for good or for bad. It means, for me, bad choice. One week without a change in symptoms means need to search further.
I do feel reassured when I see new symptoms arising or my old symptoms moving around. It has been like that until the war finishes (bart and borrelia go dormant, these are always the last ones to go for me)... Then I feel fine.
Until next reinfection!
The only thing that can reassure you, is tracking parasites, lyme coinfections and borrelia energetically, then you see them 'going away'.
If you track a certain parasite, and it stops testing, you move around to get the next, and so on. In the end, you'll be reduced to bart and borrelia. This is the end of the chain. At least, that's what happened to me and my daughter after multiple reinfections. Bart and borrelia are the last ones to go.
I am now attacking older problems (pre-lyme) and I can bet you I still see the same pattern of rising and falling of infections (basically fungal and candida), the same pattern of ever changing symptoms, and it is VERY FAST, I change symptoms almost at a daily base.
According to Sanum, the last fungi-candida to go are Aspergillus niger and Mucor racemosus! That's what I'm fighting now!
I am not getting worse! My dreams are so alive now. I had lost hability to dream again during the last lyme revival from May-September. Lyme was gone again in September, but my dreams didn't come back. Now they are back, every night! It's the third night I dream.
During all these years I got lyme, I didn't really dream. My nights were blank. Except for night terrors in my worst days with neurolyme. I don't call these dreams.
Anyway, borrelia can move around doing great distances in your body in a very short time (if I understood well, it doesn't take 1 second for borrelia to travel your whole body). Because it doesn't depend on the blood to travel (it doesn't like the blood, according to dr. K.).
One thing that I wouldn't dare doing is killing without proper detoxing. Finding detox agents is MUCH MORE complicated than finding the right killing treatment.
You need detox for each main organ (GI, liver, kidney, sometimes pancreas), including lymph, and that means different herbs-supplements for each type of killing. The cleasing is always a combo. The killing protocol, may be or may not be in combo.
When you change the battle to a next killing (it happens in a matter of days, if you get the right treatment), you 'll need again a new combo herbs-supplements to cleanse organs because toxins are different.
I spend MOST of my energy and testing time, and money trying to find right detox agents. Let's say, 10-20% of what I take is to kill, the rest is to cleanse, immunomodulators or supportive things. It is no different with fungi-candida, as each die off is very different.
I guess that LW is able to do killing (or it makes your immune system do the killing), but letting the herxes solve by themselves is a very bad idea!
I'm convinced that what is difficult in lyme and other multiple infections is not killing. It is cleansing. When you get the right cleansers, life is almost normal. You keep killing, and you keep feeling alright.
When I say, my herxes were awful, I mean, I had to take multiple cleansers about 10-12 times a day. But my life usually goes on almost normally (except for bouts of fatigue that are cleared after right cleansers).
Killer agents, rife, microcurrent, tons of herbs, homeopathics, this is easy to find and get the critters hit. But when you keep your body dirty with toxins, the killing STOPS BY ITSELF.
You can take tons of killers, your body stops killing because it just can't handle more toxins. You clean it, then killing starts almost automatically sometimes with the same herbs that were not working because of excess of toxins!
Anything that kills is dangerous. Get the right cleansers, you'll see just improvements then!
good luck on you guys using LW.
You guys are giving me some ideas to buy it to see if it gets my DORMANT borrelia!!! No kidding.
Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
I don't shine the light through the vials. I just tape them on my solar plexus. I have also taken them under the tongue and rubbed them on my skin. Each way seems to be effective.
Sometimes I test to see which way is best, but since using the vials is the easiest, I mainly just do that.
I have tested for shining the light through the vials, but in my case it doesn't seem to be necessary, as long as I have the nosode on my body somehow.
My daughter picks up the nosode treatment when I use it, so she doesn't even have to have it on her body, if I have it working in my system.
Strange and amazing stuff, this energy medicine.
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