I am considering buying a rife machine soon, and the EMEM's are most affordable .
I have read more posts with improvement with the GB 4000 , but it is costly . Can people expect as much improvement with an EMEM machine ? Are there cases where people recover or at least go back to work with an EMEM machine ?
I thank you for offering feedback .
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
Here's a quote from the Lyme-and-rife forum:
In Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com, "cronelesbo" wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I've been absent from the list for sometime due to many things going on in my life but I want > to share my positive progress with my EMEM5 machine since June of this year. > > I want to share that after being on antibiotics for about 2 and half years at which point I > plateaued, and also wanted to get off antibiotics for Lyme and co's that I am now off all > antibiotics and have drastically reduced other meds using a Rife EMEM5 machine on a regular > basis since June of this year. I have been experiencing gradual, slow and steady > improvement and symptom relief with Rife. I have Lyme, Babs, and Bart and became disabled > from them in 2005, unable to work. I was extremely ill (back from the nearly dead) and it has > been a long journey back to feeling better. I am not back to where I was pre-lyme, but am > sooo much better and have experienced much success since beginning rifing. > > This is not a magic cure, there is no magic cure, but I feel it is legit and want to share my > experience with those of you out there using Rife or thinking about it. > > Best, > CL
Posted by maureen2174 (Member # 11471) on :
I have an EMEM machine that I just recently got (a few months ago I think). I also have a Doug Coil machine that I have had for over a year.
I have spoken to many people who rife and there have been many who experience lots of improvement with the EMEM machine. There is a guy who also has both a Doug and EMEM machine and he prefers his EMEM machine over it.
I also think some machines work better for different people.
I would definitely get the EMEM machine. I was already 90% better when I got mine and just recently started using it, so I can't comment much from my personal experience with it (but I do love how easy it is to use compared to the Doug Coil).
However, I have heard of many improving greatly on the EMEM alone, so you will not be disappointed. Are you getting the DT one? That is the one I have- well worth the money!
Good luck with rifing!
Posted by lifeline (Member # 3445) on :
Yes, the DT EMEM machine is very much worth the money just as Maureen stated.
I've had mine since '06 and use it religiously and I am much improved. In fact, I have two of them from DT because I never wanted to be without one if one should need repair. That has not happened, however.
Since I've been off abx (about 4+ years now), I want to maintain the level of wellness, and rifing with this affordable machine allows me that.
Actually, I am better now than when I first got off abx, so something is working, whether it be exercise, supplements/herbs, sugarless diet (as much as possible), or rifing. Maybe, a combination of all, I don't know.
I do think you will like the EMEM. You are doing right by learning all you can before you buy.
Healthy wishes,
lifeline
Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
I have treated my wife with both the GB-4000 and the EMX which is basically an EMEM capable of higher frequencies. High frequencies are not needed to treat Lyme.
They both work equally as well as far as I can tell.
The GB is more convenient in some ways, as it can run eight frequencies at once. But, having to hold contacts the whole time is not that convenient.
I actually run the EMEM with the GB-4000 to get the best of both worlds.
An EMEM will get the job done for less money. I do not think much is to be gained other than some convenience by paying more.
D Bergy
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
This feedback is enormously valuable . It is helpful to me as I compare machines and cost and it is enlighteng to hear that members here know of others making headway with rife.
After reading so many stories of people relapsing after years of antibiotics or babs combo drugs ( that you would think would kill anything ) I am encouraged to hear that progress can be made in an alternative .
My gut tells me there is only so much progress to be made with drugs, and at some point it is undeniable that there is risk to the liver , kidneys , and immune system .
This sounds like a good choice. Bergy , I think you are right , and I will try the affordable machine .
How do I contact the man who makes them ? Is he the rifelabs guy ?
Posted by bugabooboo (Member # 7383) on :
I have been using my EMEM 5a machine for over 3 years now.
I am so much better than I was then.
I still have some issues, most probably co-infections that the EMEM frequencies are not taking care of.
I was at the point of being unable to use antibiotics due to gut issues.
I am so thankful for this machine and it's maker!
Bug
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
Bugaboo, Is there a machine that is better for coinfections ? I am virtually certain I have babs. I plan to take art and herbs with the rife to attack the varmints .
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Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
I've been using a rife machine (not EMEM) for about 6 yrs. I too have experienced success in treatement for lyme, but NOT cured yet.
I find that my most difficult symptoms are related to the co-infections. I haven't been able to control them with rife, it's still a job in progress.
Of course when it's a guessing game as to what you truly are treating it's very difficult.
I still consider my rife machine my life saver. I would buy it all over again and my machine is much more expensive than EMEM. More expensive doesn't always mean better.
I was lead to this rife machine in a very spiritual way and I do not question why or $$$$$.
Just as chemo and cancer patients...some are cured, some lives are greatly extended, and some don't fair so well.
Pam
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
Has anyone heard of a rife machine that was useful for coinfections ?
It seems the biggest problem here is for resistant babs , and the number of meds people take and relapse with lead me to question how effective drug therapy is overall for it .
Once again, the responses are helpful. There are others researching this subject as I am . Fortunately the experiences shared can be saved and searched by others.
Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
I just started using EMEM from DT about 5 weeks ago. I have had more progress than in 4 yrs of doing many other things. I am on a list to buy my own.A very sweet lymie has shared his machine with 3 of us. When u buy it u will receive a list of co-infection frequencys. I just added Erlicia SP? We will see what happens. Hope we can keep this thread going. Good to see others using the emem. Happy New Year everyone. Joyce
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks for the info!
Are any of you combining it with the LightWorks or any infrared devices?
I'm also interested in PEMF (pulsed electro-magnetic fields). Have any of you combined Rifing with these modalities?
I've read that PEMF works well with infrared light. I'm just curious if Rifing can be used, too. I heard from one person that Rife was too much in combination with the Bionic 880.
I wouldn't want to overdo it...
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
I read on lyme-and-rife forum that 570 is for babesia and 832 is for Bartonella.
Posted by lymielauren28 (Member # 13742) on :
I read the same thing about 570 for babs and 832 for bart. I have an EMEM, but haven't tried the co-infection frequencies yet...
Lauren
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
Thank you again for replies. This will help others as they try to decide on treatment and rife.
Posted by Toodie (Member # 18531) on :
How is DT's EMEM different from the EMEM 5 or the EMX? Thanks, Robin
Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
The EMX only differs from other EMEMs in that it can run high frequencies. This is not needed to treat Lyme. I use it for other conditions so I wanted that option.
There is not much difference between the others. They all accomplish the same delivery of frequencies.
I agree that coinfections probably are not going to be resolved using this method. Although we did get some results with Babbesia frequencies.
I think of frequency treatments as a way to bring you close to normal or at least improving symptoms but not likely to cure. I think it takes a combination of methods to stomp out this disease.
I think that frequencies weaken bacteria and still likely rely on the immune system to kill the damaged bacteria.
In the end a strong immune system is needed no matter what treatment you use.
D Bergy
Posted by bugabooboo (Member # 7383) on :
I have heard from the maker of a Doug Machine that it will kill Bart.
I am soon to try a Doug.
Per DT, the maker of my EMEM, I have used frequencies 20 and 27 for Babesia.
I have found more success with Artemisinin.
But the machine blasts the "tar" out of spirochetes.
Bug
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
D Bergy , why are higher frequencies useful? Do the EMX machines have the ability to do more than the EMEM's ? Also , how much more is an EMX in price ?
Is it better able to target babesia ? You mention you you had some success with babs with your GB 4000 . Is that possible with an EMEM or an EMX ?
Is the EMX that much more potent than an EMEM ?
This is confusing , but the experiences of others who improve on rife is highly encouraging . And I am grateful for the replies !
Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
I use the EMX for treating Mycobacterium Tuberculosis Avian Strain. This is not something a Lyme patient is going to have to deal with.
It is a bacteria related to Crohn's Disease and I blast it once in a while to try kill it. I use some high frequencies for this running the GB-4000 through the EMX. Since I use the GB-4000 with the EMX, I wanted to be able to use its high range through the plasma tube without damaging it.
For running Lyme frequencies or the listed Babesia frequencies, you can use any of the EMEM machines. They all should work equally as well.
The EMX is about $1,400.00 Unless you anticipate needing higher than usual frequencies you do not need it. It is not any more effective in any other way that I am aware of.
Anything Lyme related can be used with any EMEM and the results should be the same. The price of these various EMEM's really does not have any bearing of how effective they are.
There is the guy that makes them at a real good price. For some reason I can't think of his name right now. I can't claim Lyme brain either. If you need his phone number, I may have it somewhere. I am sure several people here have used his machines.
D Bergy
Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
This thread is really interesting!
Where can you buy these Rife machines?? What is the best one to get that would also go after Co-infections??
I bought my GB-4000 used from a private party but you can buy them new here. Ignore the other stuff sold. I am not convinced they have any value as treatments.
Dan Tracy (finally remembered his name) makes EMEM's for less than anyone else. If you need a phone # send me a private message. He is an older man and I do not want to make his life difficult.
D Bergy
Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
Ills,
Like (most) lyme tx you start slow. You only Rife for lyme 2x month at first (I think).
I have the DT EMEM machine. Can be bought for under 500.00. I have not used it yet, so ntohing to report on that aspect.
I do want to say that the maker of this particular machine is in his 70's and very helpful and honest. Both hea nd his wife have lyme.
I do not have his number w/ me in FL. TuTu (lymetoo) has it though.
Feelfit
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
D Bergy , Thank you for clarifying the frequencies and differences and for sharing the other info . I did a search using the word rife here, and I am convinced the therapy works . I am soo sick of ABX , and am only marginally improved .
For others considering a rife , do a search using these words " GB4000 " "EMEM", "Doug coil" or "rife " . You will mostly read that the owners of the machines were improving and believed the machines were lifesavers .
Thanks to all who share their experiences and answer questions .
Posted by tickalert (Member # 7033) on :
I have DT's number. Send me a messgae if you need it.
Posted by brite7 (Member # 16245) on :
Is there a big difference between the EMX machine and the one that costs less than $500. Is it as effective and can it be used for other issues such as candida, EBV, etc?
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
I would also like to know about the EMX compared to the $500 machine .
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I'm wondering about more info - I'm going to see my LLMD tomorrow and I know she wants to start me on IV's.
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Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
There is no difference for treating Lyme between the EMX and other EMEMs. They both will produce all of the standard Lyme frequencies and transmit them through the plasma tube. Coinfection frequencies, Yeast frequencies are all within the range of any EMEM.
There are probably some higher frequencies for cancer treatment or a few other conditions that would not be able to be run on a regular EMEM, but other than that you are not going to have much difference other than price.
If you want the option to use your EMEM on any conceivable condition, then you may want one that is able to run high frequencies also. But 95% of all conditions can be treated with a standard EMEM.
D Bergy
Posted by Annxyz (Member # 9097) on :
Thank you , Bergy . This was helpful to me , as I wondered if the EMX had more power . It sounds like just a higher range of frequencies . I am going to buy an EMEM.