Concerning the subject of Lyme being genetically engineered.....Supposedly there are tags of some sort that can identify where a genetically engineered germ came from. Now Claire Fraser has sequenced the Bb genome. Does this mean she could tell if something had been done to the lyme microbe?
She has also sequenced certain mycoplasmas and the syphilis spirochete. Has anyone heard about her recent research or the research of Jorge Benach? They are both familiar with biowarfare and are listed as on the Advisory Board of the Columbia Center? I am wondering why we never see them giving talks at any of the conferences.
Maybe some of you have heard talks by these two prominent researchers. I basically only attend local conferences so I may have missed some that they spoke at.
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
marj, hijacking your post briefly; is public health alert newsletter still being done as i haven't seen dawn post anything about it in a LONG time? that's what i use to go there or it's out of sight; out of mind.
my apologies for asking this hear but you are a regular writer for it so i knew you would know! thanks!
marj, never heard of this. anyone? back to marj's post now.
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
You're funny! :-)
Yes, The PHA is still going. Copies can be ordered thru the website www.publichealthalert.org or people can write to Dawn to order bulk copies. It cost 12 dollars for a box of 40 or 50. That is the mailing charge. I'm not sure but I think the new issue is online now.
So....yes......back to the question as to whether anyone has ever heard Claire Fraser or Jorge Benach speak about Lyme disease at any conferences? Except for Fraser sequencing the genome.....I don't know what that actually means. I mean there must be a purpose for it? What can we tell from it? Can we tell if it has been engineered?
Jorge Benach discovered the Bb microbe and supposedly Burgdorfer isolated it. Not sure what the difference is. He and Fraser are both into biowarfare. Look them up. It's pretty interesting and I'm surprised we don't hear more about it all
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
marj, thanks for the update! now back to business of marj's post .... Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
This is from the New York Academy of Science Webpage. Claire Fraser was a speaker at a discussion about ethics and biowarfare. This is a blurb about her distinguished work.
I would think she would be an extremely interesting speaker for us to hear...what does it mean to sequence the borrelia genome? What information does this give you? Among other microbes , she has sequenced mycoplasma, the syphilis spirochete and borrelia burgdorferi.How many similarities Are there between these microbes?
Panelists
Nancy Connell, PhD Center for Biodefense University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey New Jersey Medical School email | web site | publications The BSL3 Laboratory at New Jersey Medical School
Claire Fraser, PhD The Institute for Genomic Research 9712 Medical Center Drive email | web site | publications Microbial Genomics: Panacea or Pandora's Box?
Claire Fraser is president and director of the Institute for Genomic Research (TIGR) in Rockville, Maryland, where she led the teams that sequenced the genomes of Mycoplasma genitalium, the spirochetes Treponema pallidum and Borrelia burgdorfei, and two species of Chlamydia. She is now overseeing several major research projects, including the genomic sequencing of Bacillus anthracis. A member of National Research Council committees on countering bioterrorism and on domestic animal genomics, Fraser also served on review committees of the National Science Foundation, Department of Energy, and the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH).
Fraser has published more than 160 articles in scientific journals and books. She edited two volumes in the Receptor Biochemistry and Methodology series on neurotransmitter receptors and has been a reviewer for nine scientific journals, currently serving a second term on the editorial board of The Journal of Biological Chemistry. She is a former editor for Comparative and Microbial Genomics and for the International Encyclopedia of Pharmacology and Therapeutics.
Before becoming TIGR's president in 1998, Fraser was the institute's vice president of research and director of its microbial genomics department. Prior to that, she worked as a researcher at the NIH, including three years as chief of the Section of Molecular Neurobiology at the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. She is a summa cum laude graduate of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and received a PhD in Pharmacology from State University of New York at Buffalo. She has received numerous academic and professional honors, including the E. O. Lawrence Award from the Department of Energy. Fraser also holds professorships in microbiology, tropical medicine, and pharmacology at the George Washington University School of Medicine in Washington.
Elisa
Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
This info is out of date. She has left the institute in Rockville. And has said that Bb has no evidence of being engineered.
Maybe you should get off this hobbyhorse.
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
Well...excuse me. Was this a public announcement I should have been aware of? I know I am not always up on everything. What is the big deal surrounding this line of questioning?
I don't understand. It's like it's taboo...like we shouldn't be touching this subject. It seems like it is a logical inquiry in an age of bioterrorism...especially considering the controversey surrounding lyme, the inability to get adequate treatment and the proclammation that lyme is a potential biowarfare agent.
The government is screaming biowarfare propaganda at us. It is not far fetched. I am not saying that Lyme is definitely a biowarfare agent but it is certainly...under the circumstances...something that needs to be investigated.
Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
Yes, you have been saying this for years. And some of us are tired of hearing it.
Even if this were true, it does not help us get treatment and is unprovable anyway. Concentrate on things that will help us now, not chasing after ghosts.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Marjorie, I think this topic should go in general, not medical. It is not directly medical which is meant to help us now with treatments.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
She has a right to postit lou geez and also I think this absolutly belongs in medical if shes right? Then this deffinatly effects our treatment. Geez people
Posted by ldfighter (Member # 9405) on :
There's a DVD available of Claire Fraser speaking at an LDA conference in 2004.
Looks interesting regardless of what one thinks of the biowarfare issue.
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
Thanks LD fighter. Claire Fraser is obviously a very smart woman and I was wondering if there was anything available concerning her work...that would relate to lyme patients.
And...Treepatrol...thank you also. I'm glad someone can see the possible connections. If something did happen in the past, Lou is right, we can't turn the clock around but isn't being aware of history supposed to help us prevent the same mistakes in the future?
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
I was reading...or at least trying to read :-) The Genomic Sequence of a Lyme Disease Spirochaete, Borrelia burgdorferi...by Claire Fraser et al.
Most of us know that sugar makes us feel worse and even can cause us to relapse. I think we have heard the following quote in the past but it seems like we should pay much more attention to it.
"analysis of the metabolic pathway suggests that Bb uses glucose as a primary energy source."
Would it be obvious then that we need to eliminate processed sugars and even keep natural sugars to a minimum?
Now....it seems as if Fraser is an accepted mainstream scientist. Has anyone ever come across a mainstream doctor (not lyme literate and not a naturopath) who has ever brought up this connection of the importance of glucose to the survival or activity of Bb? Even tho most doctors are very poorly trained in nutrition...this seems to be a straightforward finding that should be investigated further.
Anyone hear of any other studies that implicate sugar as needed for Bb survival and actuvity?
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Many bugs use glucose.
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
Including yeast... That's a good point and I need to remember that means no sugar is super important. Thanks for that emphasis
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