I was just reading on how bad eggs are with increased heart attacks and then cholesterol. They did tests where people where eating maybee 6 a week. Well I eat them daily! In fact they give me evergy I need, bread and muffins make me want to go back to sleep!!!!!!
Whats wrong with eating alot of eggs if I have to. Some morening I might have chicken. A little rice I can tollerate.
Posted by lymielauren28 (Member # 13742) on :
I eat a lot of eggs too. I eat two to three scrambled at least 4 days a week. I think they're healthy unless you have an allergy to them.
Lauren
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
wow
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
wow
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
i eat 14. i need the protein-i am hypoglycemic. for years i ate egg whites...then my vit D tested way low. now i eat the whole egg and try to buy organic
the scare about heart attacks is controversial-i can't tell you where to go to find the info-but there is a lot of wrong info out there. maybe to sell more statin drugs. maybe for other reasons-who knows what really makes the health insurance and drug companies do what they do
i think if you go to alternative sites or ask ppl who go to ND's you might find out more
Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
The egg debate is ongoing, with the pro-egg advocates winning. research at best, suggests cholesterol plays a role in heart disease, but eggs in contrast are packed with nutrition.
I personally wouldn't restrain my egg intake, it's too strong a source of nutrition to avoid. Cooked very gently, poached, or such -- is a very easily digestible protein source.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I think it's possible that high cholestral can be caused by infection such as Lyme. I eat a lot of eggs because I need the protein.
The medical community keeps changing their minds about too many things. It makes me think that it is all theory on their part.
When you eat your eggs enjoy them and don't feel guilty about it while you're eating them. Some things are just good for the soul...ENJOY!!
Gael
Posted by Janice70 (Member # 16319) on :
Eggs are a very common allergen. You should get an IgG blood test for egg allergy. You wouldn't want to be eating that many if you are allergic to them.
I was eating a lot of eggs until my IgG test showed an off-the-chart severe IgG allergy to them. Now I don't eat any eggs and check all labels for any egg ingredient.
Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
Janice makes a good point about allergy testing in general. Food allergy testing is something Lyme patients often should have performed if possible. This can reduce symptoms substantially in some cases.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
cholesterol is always fine. Blood pressure always fine.
Bread makes me sick. Muffins make me sick. Cereal makes me sick.
Eggs dont make me sick! Horray. I guess Im training to be a snake so I can contend with all the ducks....hahaha
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
I usually eat two eggs each day. They are a great source of protein, vitamins and nutrition. So far my cholesterol and everything else is fine, and I remain a big fan of eggs too!
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
The assertion that there is a link between dietary intake of fat and cholesterol has never been proven, just pushed by the American Medical Association.
Dr. Robert Atkins knew this early on but was discredited by the AMA to be a quack. A quack he never was. He had the courage to challenge the status quo.
It's carbohydrates that raise cholestrol levels, blood pressure, inflammation, cause heart disease, diabetes and obesity. All the aliments of our
modern age that are increasing at an alarming rate and mainstream doctors prescribe block buster drugs for all these conditions like crazy.
I would be concerned about developing food allergies, however, by eating so many eggs every day. If you eat the same food every day repeatedly you will develop an intolerance to it.
Here's a great read about how our dietary policy has been so manipulated and how the American public has been given so much misinformation about
fats vs. carbohydrates. It's called "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
I eat 3 eggs every morning. I love my eggs, but I eat organic or Amish (even better). The healthiest.
Eggs have 5 methyltetrahydrofolate--an active form of folate I don't make enough of---I've been meaning to supplement.
That may be why I love my eggs.
Posted by SuZ-Q (Member # 5903) on :
I have high cholesterol and my internist just told me, "don't be afraid to eat eggs." In fact, he put me on a very low carb diet and said that carbs, which can create hyperinsulinemia, are the real culprit.
There are lots of books available that discuss this. I just started Atkins (tried it several years ago half-heartedly) and have already lost several pounds. Dr. is keeping tabs on my lipid profile to see how I improve. He maintains that I will see a definite improvement if I stick to the plan.
So, I really wouldn't worry to much about the egg consumption. Take care.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
Some people eat cereal or some form of grain EVERY DAY. Do they develop an allergy to it?
I wear clothes every day, will I develop an allergy to it?
I drink coffee every day, will I develop an allergy?
I use soap every day, will I develop an allergy?
You see where Im going with this. 99% of the population eat something the same every day. Even if you skip bread for breakfast, most people eat something made from grains every day, yet they are not as sick as I, or YOU>....
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
No, because it is well known and plenty has been written on the subject, in the alternative medical world that if you eat the same limited foods in abundance every day you will develop allergies or resistant to them.
Not necessarily allergies where you get a swollen throat or break out in hives and rashes but it will screw up your system, bring on inflammation and a whole host of problems you may not even be aware of, especially of the GI tract.
This applies to the general population not to only those who have Lyme disease.
There are certain foods in particular that are more prone to causing problems when eating them every day, as well. A properly balanced diet
should be derived from a wide variety of sources and rotated at least every day.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
Abxnomore said The assertion that there is a link between dietary intake of fat and cholesterol has never been proven, just pushed by the American Medical Association.
Cholesterol good and bad is made by the body Inflamation causes it to go up.
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
I'm not sure what you are trying to say but it is carbohydrates that cause problems with cholesterol
not fat. I'm not saying that cholesterol is not a problem when it is elevated but it is carbohydrates that is elevating it, among other things not dietary in take of fat.
[ 03-02-2009, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: Abxnomore ]
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Haven't heard of any RECENT studies saying eggs were bad. I eat 3 every morning and my cholesterol is 151.
They're much better for you than eating carbs and then being hungry (and sleepy) all day.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
Well, its the lesser of 2 evils right now. But I would hardlly call eggs evil.
There are plenty of animals who eat the same food every day. But then again ..... we are not %100 animals. We can make bad decisions and feel guilty for them uhh!
Posted by Wimenin (Member # 15294) on :
Wow...thats a lot of eggs. I eat maybe 3-4 once every 2 weeks.
Cholesterol would be the big thing to watch out for... and maybe salmonella as well depending on the egg situation..
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
I eat 3-4 every day. 3 * 7 = 21 4 * 7 = 28
I cannot eat bread. I get sick. See above
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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Eggs are a fantastic food. Try to get ones from free range chickens fed organic feed.
At six grams of protein in a normal sized egg - 3 eggs = 18 grams of protein and a wonderful mix of other nutrients.
From what I've read recently, the Cholesterol situation has been blown way out of whack. EGGS are very good food. Our body need Cholesterol in order for the adrenals to do their work. The Cholesterol in an egg is far better than that in bacon, etc.
The only problem I see with eating 3 a day is that eating ANY food every day without a break can contribute to a possible allergy of that.
It's best to take at least one day a week off - or sometimes several days or a week off. But this is good advice for all foods.
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Posted by lymeric (Member # 16465) on :
Some consider the egg an almost "perfect" food. The white and
yolk are usually sterile, although certain diseases or bacteria can
pass through the membrane to affect the interior. Few foods
arrive in our kitchens in this condition.
It is important to determine with an MD if you belong in that
percentage of people who are "cholestrol reactors." Some bodies
experience dramatic cholestrol spikes after ingesting
cholesterol-laden foods.
Here on the farm, we have been feeding ourselves and the world
with guinea fowl eggs. They are higher in protein and lower in
cholesterol than chicken. Likewise with the meat which has more
protein than the commonly available animal proteins.
Regular eggs 'no harm to health' Wednesday, 11 February 2009
Limiting egg consumption has little effect on cholesterol levels, research has confirmed.
A University of Surrey team said their work suggested most people could eat as many eggs as they wanted without damaging their health.
The researchers, who analysed several studies of egg nutrition, said the idea that eating more than three eggs a week was bad for you was still widespread.
But they said that was a misconception based on out-of-date evidence.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
never heard of ginea? What is that?
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
My now famous lyme doc suggested I get some guinea hens to control the ticks in my yard. The ticks are plentiful as are the deer. We back to a woods.
He cautioned that they make a lot of noise and neighbors would not like it.
They are tick-eating machines!
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
Ha Ha,, what a great story TF. Does the borrelia go into the eggs?
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Evidently not. He told me we could eat the eggs.
Posted by gridmonster (Member # 19280) on :
I have good friends with Guinea hens in their yards. They are indeed bug and tick gobbling machines! They also squeak like vintage un-greased wagon wheels.
I may get some, but as I live in the deep woods, I'll need a hen house. We're loaded with foxes and hawks here. They'd need cover to stay safe at night.
Posted by swachsler (Member # 18155) on :
I lowered my triglycerides by almost half by doing the 40-30-30 diet, which is about balancing the right amount of fats, protein, and carbs, and I was actually eating more fat and protein and less carbs when I was doing it.
So, I agree with those who say heavy carb intake (which causes insulin resistance over time) is a big issue.
I used to be allergic to eggs, but I discovered that if I ate *truly* free-range, natural eggs, I tolerated them fine.
Real free range means the chickens forage in the open and are not just fed inside a coop. They eat a diverse diet that way, including insects, etc. Even many eggs that are sold as "free-range, organic" are not truly free range. They can be certified as free range if there's a door to a pen from the coop, bu the chickens might not know how to use the door or it might be kept closed!
Anyway, there have been studies that show that truly free-range, natural eggs have higher amounts of the good Omega oils, raise HDL (good cholesterol), lower bad cholesterol (LDSs), etc.
So, if you can find aource of free-range eggs, where the chickens don't get antibiotics and hormones and other chemicals, and they can forage as part of their diet, etc., they are *delicious* and they are actually quite good for you.
-Sharon
Posted by lightfoot (Member # 2536) on :
Oh ya'!! I've got lots of egg on my face too!! Good organic eggs in great numbers are daily fare. AND they are portable and packable.
Hooray for the chicken!!
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
Maybee I should go the insect route then.
I can see the headlines now "man with Lyme and mycoplasma forced to eat nothing but insects."
Hows that for a cause!
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
Abxnomore that is an excellent reference, "Good Calories Bad Calories". The no fat / low fat mania is just that - mania.
I like Dr. Weston A. Price's take and research on that ! www.westonaprice.org Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
hey egg experts...how can you tell if an egg is too old to eat-do you have to go by the package date...these organic ones are so expensive i don't want to throw them out
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
I dont know, I know they can store for months, and if your cooking it if they get rubbery they are old, they wont kill you though!
Today I ate 7 eggs, yesturday 8!
Im living off them.
Eggs and sunflower seeds. Cant eat bread. I look great. Isint that weird? Still herx from biaxin, what the hell is going on? Im gonna die before I figure this out.
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
If an egg is bad it will smell like hell. The fresher they are the white of the egg will cling
closley to the yolk. As it gets older it will get less firm and more runny but it's still good as long as it doesn't smell. Like a bad chicken you will know a bad egg.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
yea you are right, they do smell bad and dont taste as good.
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
Massman, thanks for the link. I order from vital choice and order from Dr. Ron. Will check out the
rest of the site. Looks like lots of good info.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
PS .. I swore off my 3 eggs a day. Gaining too much weight from it!! Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
what lymetoo? thats crazy.
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
thanks-i cooked 2 dozen eggs today. a breakfast casserole, 2 puddings and 6 scrambled for the dog-i'll freeze those.
gotta save pennies these days...
ps-none of them smelled but one yolk rolled away from the white...that one went to the dog
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
I do 10-14 a wk. Luv those scrambled eggs! (Your DOG gets the scrambled, L.P?) I add diced green peppers (krunch), sliced fresh mushroom &... Wheat germ! Yup!... and some cheddar hiding in a molten lump on the side. They say "watch your cholesterol". I never have & my #s were fine at my last checkup <1 yr ago! {Guess I'm just lucky ;}
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
yep-and brown rice and ground turkey and veggies-he really likes raw carrots and apples(i haven't bought him organic yet-i know i should) he has lyme and is small(doens't eat much) and it's just him and me now and he loves me when every one else thinks i'm crazy...so yeah. he eats a lyme diet too
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by lymeHerx001: what lymetoo? thats crazy. [/QB]
hey, maybe it was the grated cheddar cheese I was adding to the mix!!? Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
could be, chedder is on my "can do list"
I love it, and it doesnt give me symptoms. Some cheeses with mold I cant do.
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
By the way I seem to be keeping the weight I have or putting on weight.
I eat 3-4 eggs a day with cheese onions and peppers, About 1/4 pound salted sunflower kernels and chicken with brocolli or some other veggie and butter.
And with this diet I still put on weight.
Coffee too!
Posted by richedie (Member # 14689) on :
There is nothing you "need" from eggs, so don't get worried if you don't eat any. I like eggs so I eat them a few days a week, but personally am much more a carb guy, would rather have buckwheat pancakes or a huge bowl of oatmeal and fruit or redskin potatoes. When I say there is nothing you need, I mean you can get the same nutirion from other food if necessary. I am a semi-vegetarian meaning I only eat meat a few times a week if that because I just don't like meat. I do however like my eggs and potatoes in the morning.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by lymeHerx001: [QB] By the way I seem to be keeping the weight I have or putting on weight.
I eat 3-4 eggs a day with cheese onions and peppers, About 1/4 pound salted sunflower kernels and chicken with brocolli or some other veggie and butter.
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