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Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
The reaction was so amazing, I am NOT giving out the chemical I found.

Perhaps I found something to do in gram negative bacteria. I think so.

I used it on my skin, and to my amazment...I could actually FEEL it absorb into the body.

In a smear test it decouglated the blood and mostly fryed anything in it instantly.

In the after skin aplication test the blood plasma was 100 percent clear...and it appeared to be already working on de-cougluation.

If I can get patent protection and have a patent pending...then I can report the finding.

by the way, its safe....as heck. Nearly like water!
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Congrats James. I hope it's the cure! Keep us updated.
 
Posted by yanivnaced (Member # 13212) on :
 
MMS perhaps?
 
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
 
glycerin
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Neosporin? [Smile]
 
Posted by mwhite18 (Member # 17777) on :
 
Jergens
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
no, none of them.

In honesty, it actually is already a known anti bacterial agent. I dont wanna give it away...yet.

I best talk to a patent attnory.

I applied it to my right ear, I get a massive heating sensation though my brain, and my severe bart headache dissolves. Yes, I am now using it, screw it...I cant take the pain! I am risking it. BUT, its a food additive!

Not so risky huh? on the blood smear the barts vanish in about 1. hour and the lyme disappears instantly. I cant even find a cyst! to be continued.

Oh, AND it BTW, decoulates the blood..instantly so detox...forget detox...no need...its got a detox built in.
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
OH MY GOD

I just did the SAME thing, but, this time, I applied this chemical (btw..not toxic...in fact...its almost food)

I being so sick, I risked it...I applied it everywhere...I am soaking in it...I have it in my ears..etc..

Scope check..REAL blood, not anything applied to the blood...my real blood.

FULLY decougulated, in fact, the cells are bigger and plump like I have never even seen.

0 pathogens found...I am serious, 0!

in 15 mins. NOT even bart.

I think this is a biofilm dissolver.
 
Posted by lakes592 (Member # 18905) on :
 
Vinegar? I love the Jergen's one, cracked me up...I needed a chuckle. If it is vinegar that you have rubbed all over yourself, I hope you don't have company coming. [Razz] j/k
 
Posted by tickbattler (Member # 14873) on :
 
James,

Contact that patent attorney ASAP!! Hopefully you are going to be rich and we are all going to be cured!!!

Just curious, are you herxing at all during this process? Any change in symptoms?

tickbattler
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
One of these below:

Benzoic Acid
Sodium Benzoate
Cupric Sulfate
Sorbic Acid
Sodium Sorbate
Potassium Sorbate
Formic Acid
Potassium Nitrite
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
I feel RELIEF!

Feels like its since its decoululating the blood at the same time..its automatically allowing the detox channels to open up.

Theres no bugs found I cant believe it. I have some tingling...I feel massive heating sensations everywhere...I did get some early pains at first...but it feels like there going bye.

I do still have a little bart migraine..but its feels like its going away. 2 hours ago it was crushing pain in the head until I did this, thats why I did, I just couldnt handle it anymore.
 
Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
um, wow? very cool.

okay, here's my question regarding all your scope-related posts, and i promise it's only out of curiosity, i am not doubting what you say --

what sort of microscope do you have access to? i just don't get it -- if it's so easy to see the bugs through that microscope, then shouldn't we have a foolproof lyme test (blood smear) by now? shouldn't labs around the country be looking at our blood through that same type of microscope and seeing that we're riddled with nasty critters?

please help me understand..? thanks.
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
its a conspiracy dude.
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
Ask the AMA when they banned cigarette ads in there magazine where they showed doctors smokin away! 1980 I think it was!
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
James,

You sure do keep things interesting around here. I really hope you find the answer. Sorry you have been so sick. keep us posted,


Gael
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
what must be happening is its somehow a super biofilm dissolver. It apparently strips the biofilms instantly and once that happens...as Dr MAC donald said once, "YOUR COOKED", but, this time, THERE COOKED

what blows me away is its cheap...its non toxic and its a food additive! so...I cant see how it could hurt anything.
 
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
 
C'mon James don't keep us in such suspense.
BHT?
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
That's great news!!
 
Posted by LittleLymie19 (Member # 15610) on :
 
Is it hydrogen peroxide?
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jamescase20:
what must be happening is its somehow a super biofilm dissolver. It apparently strips the biofilms instantly and once that happens...as Dr MAC donald said once, "YOUR COOKED", but, this time, THERE COOKED

what blows me away is its cheap...its non toxic and its a food additive! so...I cant see how it could hurt anything.

Good luck with that, you're going to need it!

Sure you can patent it, spend 10 grand or more. Finally get it to market (after even more expensive clinical testing), and what's to stop people from buying the food additive version that'll be a small fraction of the cost? nothing. And with the cost of the patent and getting FDA approval you will have to charge a bunch for it.

This is all assuming it's not a placebo effect, not going to cause organ failure in large doses, and not a transient response. No scientific evidence at this point.

You'd be amazed how much stuff that's a great idea never gets patented or taken to market because it's not financially feasible.
 
Posted by lakes592 (Member # 18905) on :
 
I love these posts also. A cure from one of us is more likely then anyone else. So keep going James...good game! Just wondering how long you will keep us in suspense? Does the person that guesses right win a prize? [Smile]
 
Posted by charlie (Member # 25) on :
 
Iodine....
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
Its not that easy to find...I been testing various compounds for over 1 yr.

and NEVER EVER seen anything close to this result. And I repeated it internally. I sure hope I dont die...but I cant see how plump huge decougulated blood cells suggest I am wrong!
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
not that easy to find now, but you can't patent the substance, only the use. So your competitor can make a cream and not mention the "use" and not be infringing on your patent. Talk with someone, just don't want you to be too disappointed after you talk to them.

easy to find is a relative term. I know where to find almost anything. [Wink] if it's available without a rx, you can find it on the internet. If it needs a script you can still probably find it on the net. [Wink]
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
maybe he's painted himself with gentian violet and looks like a smurf. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostinlyme (Member # 19389) on :
 
Hi everyone,

I've been locked deep in this lyme thing since 1998, and taken every abx known to man at the highest dosage +. I've logged on and off of Lymenet for different periods of time over the years,(I do remember Tincup) but never posted. My neuro has just revealed to me that I have a pituitary adenoma (aka brain tumor) that they just "happened to find". James, I'm ready to drink from a chum bucket my friend, so if you know something....
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
In my more recent smears...I discovered that magnesium INHIBITS the killing action of this chemical I found. Geez. Whats interesting in IV magnesium HEATS up your body, JUST like this chemical.

I am not fully cured...I do find some hypercougluation in there...my experience tells me theres live bugs in those cells, but when I look at other areas on the slide, I see beautiful unreal fat red cells, these cells show the nuke center which is PROOF scientifically there not infected..but fully healthy red cells. I see its going to be a little time to fully clear this...but I have absolutlly no dought in my mind that this is it. Finally. I know I pruported cures before...but this one just looks totally and even incrediable and even unbelievable and um...just darn NUTS crazy. Sad, happy, etc
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
-

LostinLyme,

Do you have a LLMD?

Does your neurologist have any suggestions. As bad as this news is, treatment might help.

It would be very risky to just go through your household and grab anything that calls out to you.

Suggestions from your LLMD and your neuro, hopefully, will give you some options.

Take care.


-
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
NO, this is a biofilm dissovling additive it appears. I do not believe it has any other action except it simply (I believe anyway) is fully and totally stripping the biofilms off the gram neg bacteria's. I believe once this happens, and I do think this is widely believed in research circles...once you fully strip there biofilm...THERE COOKED. AND, since its a super "solvent" like it ends up DETOXING at the SAME TIME...and so...that would explain why I didnt have any herx...except for about 15 mins. I feel BETTER not worse, and it was about instantly. Thats the best part...there didnt seem to be a herx. NO HERX.
 
Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
james i'm really happy for you but maybe i'm the only one who'd still like an answer to the question i posed..?
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
I would drink it but clearly it absorbs though the skin....no, its not even close to poison...its an additive...you have eaten this....and in fact...most likely you like it.
 
Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
Oh, I hope its ice cream!
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
yeah, I just re-checked my magnesium slide...clearly magnesium (at least in super high concentrations blocks this chemicals killing action)....its going to take time to fully rid this...but again, I cant believe what I am seeing...and have NEVER seen this before. This is like 100percent and MMS would be like um, 1 percent effective. And mind you MMS is VERY good. But this is nothing close to MMS, this is like magic. I truely believe this, perhaps coupled with certain ABX will be the futures gram negative TX and there will be NO resistence. I repeat, NO resistence. This thing dont kill them, it appears to fully and about instantly clear out the gook in the blood and rips off there protein coats...all of them. I think thats the ticket.
 
Posted by efsd25 (Member # 2272) on :
 
James,
You are such a tease!! This a great...but don't we get another clue?? Food additive is great. but the field is so broad.

1)Peri-gum has cayenne, but it is not hot to the skin.
2) MMS, good possibility, but nothing about warming when aborbed.
3) There are some essential oils that could fit..need to noodle on this.

Don't want to deprive you of any revenue :-), but I'm dying to know.

I am already using your Lauricidin daily, after you found it did so well on the spirochete count in your blood. Many thanks!

You are using phase contrast, not a darkfield..is that right? I can't quite remember.

Just please becareful James...we need you!!!

Take care,
Ernie
Slums of Kent,
WA
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
actually I do believe that coconut oil has somewhat of a relationship with this.

Someone know if you can a novel use patent?


how do go about that?
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
if your using the laruicindin use alot. I def found it very helpful but...TAKE ALOT...at LEAST 12 of those cupy things a day...I even would suggest up to like 20 a day...I know I know...but trust me I watch the scope. I used MMS with it...and that together really works very well.

But this is way def.

Dont worry, once theres a patent pending I will show you it...and thats IF I could even get a patent. Its in use already, but, not for that. I would have to get whats I guess called a novel use patent.
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
you'd need a really good patent attorney if it was possible. You can patent techniques, so there is probably something along the way that might be. Can't tell for sure without details. Any loopholes will be exploited. Paying for this attorney would probably require venture capital, hard to come by right now. Once you patent it, it's a race to get it on the shelves and make a profit before the patent expires.

Good luck, at this point you probably need really good professional council if you are serious about it.
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
James, if you are interested in having certain forum members review your idea you can have them sign a non-disclosure agreement, something else to mention to the attorney.
 
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
 
James, you drivin' us crazy!!!!!!
It could take ages to learn about a novel use patent. And yes, you can patent a use.

C'mon James!!!!
Sigh.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
RED FOOD DYE This has to be it....Phloxine B (D & C Red #28) Has antibacterial activities against staph, salmonella, e-coli, shigella and other gram negative bacteria.

So James have you turned red? If this is not it, maybe we should look into it....
 
Posted by yanivnaced (Member # 13212) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/78196?#000000
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
wow, I just found out why excerise helps...it would kill it...trust me...no more clues...EXCERISE I have proven it to work wonders.
 
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
 
Geez...I just did some more research online on my chemical find...WOW, this is the right thing.
 
Posted by asus (Member # 13881) on :
 
Yellow #5? :-)
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Tell Michael J Fox, George Bush, and others - I have no doubt you can skip the patent process, make a quick $10mm+ and cure us all. Money-back guarantee the protocol and you're good as gold. Screw the patents...look for movie starts, actors, sports athletes, etc. that will pay. THen you can share it all. [Smile] Health is priceless..
 
Posted by Larkspur (Member # 5131) on :
 
My guess:

Caprylic acid
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I Think This Is It...... It just fits

Red Food Dye....(D & C red # 28)Phloxine B


It is a liquid..

it is a food additive...


not easy to find.


has antibacterial properties against gram negative bacteria...Known as Phloxine B (D & C Red # 28)


Even if we guess it I don't think James will tell us because he wants to patent it somehow..

Well, at the very least it is distracting C,mon James Give It Up
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Does it take Bb out of my joints, tissues, muscles, etc.?

Tobasco sauce!!
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I think we're all crazy now. lol. [Smile]
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
James said

(1)it is liquid..

(2).it is a food additive...

(3) it is hard to find

(4) It has antibacterial activity

The guesses have to fit these critera
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Seek.....What else is new? [lol] [bonk]
 
Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
We are all so silly. First of all it takes years and years to get a patent.

Since this is just a web site, we don't even know if James is for sure a Lymie. How do we know James if you are someone just having a million laughs at our expense?

I don't say this to be mean. In case you really are a Lyme sufferer, then I am sorry; but just reading how everyone is practically begging for the "secret" ingredient that will cure us all; the ingredient that even the scientist that have researched LD for 30 years have not yet discovered....well it makes one wonder what you are really up to.

I do hope you are serious and not just having a good time with people that are so ill and so desperate. If you are ill with Lyme Disease, then I apologize and wish you the best of luck.

It is just very hard to grasp that Lyme researchers who are physicians and pathologist are so much further behind on this than you.
 
Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
are you really going to wait until you have a patent to share it with us?? that doesn't seem fair to the rest of the lyme community..
 
Posted by m2 (Member # 16636) on :
 
James-
I also hope that you've stumbled onto something "miraculous"- God knows so many of us need relief from our suffering!!

No matter what it is, you wouldn't know if you "own" this until a patent examiner says so, which is 2 years or more from now. Do you really want to "protect" and therefore hide this until then, knowing how much it is needed right now??

My advice is to submit a "provisional" patent, which can be a simple one-page summary of your idea. Submit this to the USPTO for $100 fee and you will be "patent pending" for one year. Your idea will then be protected and you can share it with others. In parallel, you can pursue help from an attorney to write a "non-provisional" patent which, IF APPROVED, can net you a 20-year ownership of the idea.

Go to the USPTO website and you can find instructions in writing and submitting a provisional patent.
 
Posted by Dawnee (Member # 15089) on :
 
It's not MSG because that's not hard to find. Heck if it were..go buy a can of soup *eye roll* lol

James, you're so awesome. Now freaking tell us! lol
 
Posted by Dawnee (Member # 15089) on :
 
It's not MSG because that's not hard to find. Heck if it were..go buy a can of soup *eye roll* lol

James, you're so awesome. Now freaking tell us! lol
 
Posted by hoot (Member # 19281) on :
 
[confused] My guess is EDTA...it is found in processed food, it is non-toxic (similar to vinegar), it is a biofilm buster, you can get in in liquid form, it heats up (when you add the powder to water), it binds magnesium (so magnesium would interfere).

Oh...come on...tell us already!!! We will be forever in your debt [bow] .

Do I get a prize if I am right???

Jen
 
Posted by hoot (Member # 19281) on :
 
Oh yea...one more thing...EDTA is an anticoagulant [Wink] .

Jen
 
Posted by lymemomtooo (Member # 5396) on :
 
James, I hope you are truly on to something. Just hope it comes out in time for all of us.

But I want to caution you because if this is truly a cure, you must protect yourself, and I am not speaking patent issues.

I would think there are many out there that are leaches on the patients thru money collected thru grant research and attempts at vaccines that would NOT want this to happen. SOOOOOOO be careful. Look at things they have done to websites.lmt
 
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
 
ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid
 
Posted by hoot (Member # 19281) on :
 
That's what I said...with less letters...EDTA.

Jen
 
Posted by lymestop (Member # 18787) on :
 
quote:
He hopes this naturally occurring molecule, cis-2-decenoic acid or CDA, which is approved by the Food and Drug Administration as a food additive, could be used to fight infection.

Washington Post Full article posted March 9th 2009
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030801778_pf.html

[ 03-09-2009, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: lymestop ]
 
Posted by yanivnaced (Member # 13212) on :
 
Assuming it is EDTA is it really that great?

I think I remember somebody talking about having EDTA IV's.

While it might have helped I'm pretty sure that person is far from being cured.
 
Posted by omgwtfbbq (Member # 15446) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hoot:
[confused] My guess is EDTA...it is found in processed food, it is non-toxic (similar to vinegar), it is a biofilm buster, you can get in in liquid form, it heats up (when you add the powder to water), it binds magnesium (so magnesium would interfere).

Oh...come on...tell us already!!! We will be forever in your debt [bow] .

Do I get a prize if I am right???

Jen

EDTA is used to break cellular adhesions in the lab. Take cells off of culture dishes. It would be very bad for the body in high enough doses, although serum proteins seem to stop it's action so I doubt it'd do much in the body.
 
Posted by yanivnaced (Member # 13212) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jamescase20:
I would drink it but clearly it absorbs though the skin....no, its not even close to poison...its an additive...you have eaten this....and in fact...most likely you like it.

Does EDTA taste good? I still think he's talking about Glycerol Monolaurate which is related to coconut oil.
 
Posted by 2roads (Member # 4409) on :
 
James, you sound like my brother....and I love him to death, but he drives me nuts. [kiss]
 
Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
 
James,
here is an offer you havent seen yet. IF this is a food additive and as harmless as you say,,,

send me some in a plain bottle with no label on it,tell me how to use it,,and I will be your remote test monkey!!

I will inform you IF I had same reaction as yours,no reaction, or whatever is the plain unvarnished truth!!

That way I CANT find out your secret stuff till its patented or protected for you.

I really do feel that the REAL DEAL breakthru is going to come from do it your self PEOPLE such as YOU!!!
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Well really folks....what has killed off this stuff for me is SEA SALT....salt/c protocol to be exact....Salt is a natural broad spectrum bacteriocide. I am not pushing this on anyone, but it works and I have/had severe neurolyme.


The people that discovered this gave it freely to everyone without expecting any monetary gain.


James,


I think whatever it is you found, it would have to be taken with persistence and over a period of time.


I don't believe for a sceond that you can take or apply anything a few times and kill of all these infections. This is a complex disease.


The worms alone lay over 200,000 eggs a day. The other thing I want to say is that I understand why you want to make money on this, but keep in mind that there are people suffering tremendously every day.


Gael
 
Posted by n.northernlights (Member # 17934) on :
 
about the pituitary adenoma, this might not mean a lot, since they find those in 25% of corpses they happen to autopsy after traffic accidents. nodules on teh pituitary stalk are quite common and need not mean anything. Forgot where I read that.

About simple chemicals: dca is such a thing, and the FDA banned it....one must buy it online.
http://www.thedcasite.com/index.html read around there for the story.
There is at least one whole page about the patents that have been filed for the use, not the molecule.
 
Posted by lymestop (Member # 18787) on :
 
I believe what he found and is using is
# 10 Capric acid Decanoic acid CH3(CH2)8COOH

(right above Lauric acid)


Straight-Chained, Saturated Carboxylic Acids
Carbon atoms Common name IUPAC name Chemical formula Common location or use

1 Formic acid Methanoic acid HCOOH Insect stings
2 Acetic acid Ethanoic acid CH3COOH Vinegar
3 Propionic acidPropanoic acid CH3CH2COOH
4 Butyric acid Butanoic acid CH3(CH2)2COOH Rancid butter
5 Valeric acid Pentanoic acid CH3(CH2)3COOH
6 Caproic acid Hexanoic acid CH3(CH2)4COOH
7 Enanthic acid Heptanoic acid CH3(CH2)5COOH
8 Caprylic acid Octanoic acid CH3(CH2)6COOH
9 Pelargonic acidNonanoic acid CH3(CH2)7COOH
10 Capric acid Decanoic acid CH3(CH2)8COOH
12 Lauric acid Dodecanoic acid CH3(CH2)10COOH Coconut oil
18 Stearic acidOctadecanoic acid CH3(CH2)16COOH


Capric acid (decanoic acid)
added to ice cream, candy, baked goods, chewing gum, liquor and often not specified on ingredients lists.

Capric acid (N-decanoic Acid) - Vegetable or animal. Ice cream, baked goods, sweets, beverages and artificial flavorings. An element in some fats used to make synthetic flavoring. red lollipops and food coloring
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Everyone keeps posting endlessly, BUT has anyone noticed JamesCase20 hasn't posted a thing since last night? I hope he's OK!! Let's not lose sight of that too, OK?
 
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
 
If it's EDTA, some Lyme docs are already using it to bust biofilms.

I pray it's chocolate, although I'd be cured by now if it were.

Keep going James, I love reading your posts!

Jill
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Lymestop,

Are you talking about the caprylic acid found in cococut oil? I used to take caprylic acid capsules. Or is it something else?
 
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
 
i know - James should offer to go on Oprah to reveal the Big Secret.

And it's "hypercoagulation", my friend...
 
Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
 
IMO the most interesting part is in another message string James is advocating socialized medicine, while in this one is withholding (for his patent) something potentially important to all.
 
Posted by Need Lots of Help (Member # 18603) on :
 
I guess I am one of the few who thinks this is really cruel. To tell a bunch of sick people that you have found something that could help them, but won't.

To me this is as bad as letting millions live with lyme because someone wants to patent a Lyme vaccination and/or doctors who take our money and tell us that we have chronic fatigue......at least in my book.

Sorry, I did look at James posts and laugh often, but no more.
 
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
 
Remember guys and gals, James is someone who has written that he believes that a common veterinary pesticide,
Frontline, is in food, so you never know what he might come up with!

James, I read in a different thread of yours that you used 2.4 IM bicillin within the last two days, along with augmentin. Isn't that a shame,
that because of all these abx you have also taken around the same time before your new experiment, we will never know if it is the bicillin working,
or your new "food additive" ?!
 
Posted by Amanda (Member # 14107) on :
 
Its cis-2-decenoic acid or CDA.

And unfortunately James, researchers have already been working on its ability to disperse biofilms, which helps the abx work better.

I believe that there is an article in this months Journal of Bacteriology. I will look up and see if I can't post the information.
 
Posted by Amanda (Member # 14107) on :
 
thanks Lymestop. Thats what I get for just skipping to the end without reading previous posts [Smile]

I will post the washing post article as a seperate topic for people.

notice the last sentences folks, which reads...

But dispersing biofilms without understanding all the ramifications could be a
"double-edged sword," Romeo warned, because some bacteria in a biofilm could
wreak worse havoc once they disperse.

"Simply inducing biofilm dispersion without understanding exactly how it will
impact the bacterium and host could be very dangerous, as it might lead to
spread of a more damaging acute infection," he said
 
Posted by lymeric (Member # 16465) on :
 
Vermont_lymie, James is right. Active pesticides in Frontline (Fipronil) are used in agriculture. Only they are supposed to have broken down or exited the food by the time of human consumption.
 
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lymeric:
Vermont_lymie, James is right. Active pesticides in Frontline (Fipronil) are used in agriculture. Only they are supposed to have broken down or exited the food by the time of human consumption.

Hi lymeric:

It is actually used on few crops in a limited area of the US. I posted on this a while back, when James first started using Frontline; I remember mushrooms in one state was one of the uses, but I do not have the list handy that was posted those months ago.

Fipronil is highly toxic to fish, aquatic invertebrates, and bees, and considered a possible carcinogen and potential ground water contaminant. So it is not widely used in food crops, rather it is highly limited. You are right, there are still some few remaining uses, but the data does not support James' claim that it is widely used and found in food.
 
Posted by lostinlyme (Member # 19389) on :
 
northernlights,

Thanks for the pituitary adenoma percentage comment. I also read something similar since my last post. I'm feeling a little better about that now.
 
Posted by kimwg (Member # 19094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sutherngrl:
Oh, I hope its ice cream!

Hahaha! I hope we all have to smear ourselves with fine dark chocolate for the cure!
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
James, do you get a thrill out of anticipting thrilling Lyme victims w/ hoo-hah like that?
Do you really THINK that anyone of 'right mind' (& I admit some here are not 'right', often thru no fault of their own) will give that baloney any real Creedence??
Just as 1 example, you wrote, "If I can get patent protection and have a patent pending...then I can report the finding."
WELL, if you Have patent Protection, why would you need a "patent pending"??
And since when would a patent ever keep others in other parts of the world from grabbing your idea & Saving the World? Do you have hundreds of thousands of $ to go after patent infringers?
I Mean.... GIMME a BREAK! LOL
 
Posted by lymeric (Member # 16465) on :
 
Vermont_lymie, I wasn't restricting my view to the US. First of all, we're on the same page here... That being said, this link might interest you. Looks like Fipronil use on crops is alive, well, and expanding. This is just for China alone. I think I'm gonna bring my own rice next time at chinese food! [Eek!]

http://www.prdomain.com/companies/B/Bayer/newsreleases/200732939903.htm

[ 03-10-2009, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: lymeric ]
 
Posted by Al (Member # 9420) on :
 
Amanda Wins !!!

Its cis-2-decenoic acid or CDA.
 
Posted by keda (Member # 18954) on :
 
Is James OK???

I'd love a chance to be a human guinea pig like

Just Don, but first I'd like to know that the

Great Experimenter has survived to fight

another day. Anyone know what's up?
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by seekhelp:

Everyone keeps posting endlessly, BUT has anyone noticed JamesCase20 hasn't posted a thing since last night? I hope he's OK!! Let's not lose sight of that too, OK?

i noticed also that james has DISABLED HIS PRIVATE MESSAGES; has it been like that very long or just after starting this thread post?


yes, i do hope james is ok! please sign in just saying you are ok, and you can keep the rest of your comments for yourself.


yes, get legal help!
 
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
 
James says that he was banned from LymeNet.

He wants everyone to know that he is all right.

Carol
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
Yes, Amanda- Please Post that biofilm article.

Been fascinated with that ever since seeing U.O.S.

My LLN.D. suggested the protein-dissolving herbs

like bromelain on an empty stomach. -M
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Banned? Well, I must admit posting a cure and dangling it like a carrot for cash is really a cruel thing to do to ill individuals. If he didn't post and worked on it on the side, different issue (albeit still tough to let so many suffer if the product is cheap and non-harmful). I have no doubt James paid attention to other researchers such as Marnie looking for answers.
 
Posted by jarjar (Member # 8847) on :
 
The most interesting thing to me in this thread is that James has barely started working with his new found treatment. To many times have I started feeling better at first on a treament.

It will be more interesting to see what he has to say after a month or so.
 
Posted by yanivnaced (Member # 13212) on :
 
can the admin lift the ban? maybe james will decide against the patent and share with us his secret substance.
 
Posted by Blackstone (Member # 9453) on :
 
James - Why don't you skip the patent attorney, and instead take your findings to researchers and doctors. Call up a university, call up some LLMDs. I'm sure you'll find some biochemists, physicians or others who will be willing to give your idea a fair test.Hell, there are people like myself and Marnie who fit into one of the above categories here.

Before you can even think of patenting anything, it has to be independently verified to work, the methodology of action needs to be understood etc... it may not even BE patentable if you just found a new use for an existing chemical. On top of that, do you really want to try and patent something that could help so many people? Isn't that just like the pharmaceutical companies, that so many of this forum struggle to afford?

If you've made a breakthrough, that's great. Get it to scientists to corroborate your data, and you could be on your way to being a hero.
 
Posted by NMN (Member # 11007) on :
 
Banning him was a bit harsh. I thought it was getting quite interesting there for a while.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
-

For those who would like to study the nature of the spirochete, so as to better understand the task before us, DVDs of past ILADS seminar are available here:

http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/VideoOrder.html


and the work of many researchers can be read at www.ilads.org


And, here at Lyme Net, to the left, see the menu for Medical Abstracts: http://www2.lymenet.org/domino/abstract.nsf/


These are just a few places to find some of the science about lyme and other tick-borne diseases.


To study the science of it - and the physiology of the human body as well as how that is altered with lyme - leads to a much better understanding of the complex nature of working with/against/around these stealth infections.


Many fine researchers have spent their careers in this very study.
We can learn much by reading their work and listening to their presentations.


-

[ 03-10-2009, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by btmb03 (Member # 18394) on :
 
- first, are you sure he's been banned? maybe he continued despite prior warnings?

- second - does anyone here on LN not think that posting your "experiments" might put LN at risk?

- with so much publicity over recent suicides on Facebook with people egging that poor person on (and those who were aghast as well) I can't imagine where that would leave LN
 
Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
I spoke with Jim last night. He is not evil or trying to dangle a carrot, he is very excited about his findings and just can't contain himself.

He just wants to retain the credit for his hard work, I mean who wouldn't?

He is over the edge excited about this, and he wouldn't tell me what it is but he did give me some hints. It is in a common food and none of your guesses about food dyes, etc are it.

He is very upset that he seeems to have been banned from Lymenet, but he goes on Lyme Chat almost every night.
 
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
 
Tracy, where is Lyme Chat?
Will someone let me know or keep us posted about James? Can you just keep us updated here?
THANKS!
 
Posted by lymeric (Member # 16465) on :
 
Tracy, the fact that he'd give you some hints, but won't tell (as in this thread) is strange, counterintuitive, and seems to be indeed provocative behavior. If he was on the level, he wouldn't be playing "here's a hint, and no that's not it " games. imho.
 
Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
You can access lymechat from www.lymefriends.com or there are direct links posted on threads here. I'm sorry, I have to pull them up to get the direct link.

Email me at [email protected] to get the password for it. We've had a troll problem of late.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I am glad James is okay. Given the complexity of Lyme disease, I just don't believe that one chemical found in a common food can alleviate Lyme and all of it's co-infections, viruses, fungi, parasites/worms etc. It's just not in the realm of common sense.


Even the principal of alkalizing which changes the inner terrain and doesn't allow these pathogens to survive takes a lot of persistence and a long time to get rid of all the infections.


I know when I have started on a new protocol and felt and saw things dying and felt better initially, it was never that easy.

"He just wants to retain the credit for his hard work". He can put up a website with a video of him using his microscope showing the pathogens dying. He can date it etc.

That's what the people who put up www.lymephotos.com did. All they wanted was for people to get well. They have my respect!!!

Gael
 
Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
All he told me was "eat a LOT OF YOGURT."
 
Posted by NMN (Member # 11007) on :
 
I eat half a litre of organic probiotic yogurt a day. I am on my way so. happy days! haha
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Off to buy 10 gallons of Dannon. lol.
 
Posted by Scrambled_brain (Member # 3071) on :
 
This is one of the reasons I quit reading these types of forums. One or two egos are more interested in getting attention than actually doing something constructive. What is constructive about a post that hints at something that helps but won't say what it is? Either say nothing at all or wait until you can fully tell your story. Otherwise, it is just an ego thing. very irritating.
 
Posted by lymestop (Member # 18787) on :
 
Lactic Acid

Eat Yougurt and then exercise !! : )

Lactic acid is primarily found in sour milk products, such as: koumiss, leban, yogurt, kefir, and some cottage cheeses. The casein in fermented milk is coagulated (curdled) by lactic acid.

In animals, L-lactate is constantly produced from pyruvate via the enzyme lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) in a process of fermentation during normal metabolism and exercise.

It does not increase in concentration until the rate of lactate production exceeds the rate of lactate removal which is governed by a number of factors including: monocarboxylate transporters, concentration and isoform of LDH and oxidative capacity of tissues. The concentration of blood lactate is usually 1-2 mmol/L at rest, but can rise to over 20 mmol/L during intense exertion.

Lactic acid is widely used for reducing the number of pathogenic bacteria like E.coli, Salmonella, Campylobacter, and Listeria on animal carcasses like beef, pork, and poultry during the slaughtering process.[7]

Read the Wikipedia about Lactic Acid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid

[ 03-10-2009, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: lymestop ]
 
Posted by btmb03 (Member # 18394) on :
 
Agree with you Scrambled Brain, it's like "teasing" someone - and everyone is falling right into his hands. Ridiculous.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
-

No cure can be found - or tested and documented - in one day. Rubbing something on an ear is not going to cure lyme by the next day.


-
 
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
 
this is hogwash and a waste of all your time.

this guy has been posting nutso ideas for years now.

EVERY DAY HE HAS THE CURE.

NONE of them ARE it. THERE IS NOT A MAGIC BULLET FOLKS.

IT TAKES YEARS TO REBUILD A BROKEN BODY AND IMMUNE SYSTEM.

the sooner you all realize that the better off you all will be.

INSTEAD of wasting your time discussing FLEA medicine AND A MYSTERY CURE (there is NONE) you could be gathering info and assembling a comprehensive treatment protocol that actually will get you well.

this is disgraceful and everything that is wrong with LN.

the only people left on here that have any sense are not being listened to, its sad.

perhaps keebler, myself, and the others who are the voice of reason and proven methods should title our threads WE FOUND THE CURE in order to invoke a better response.

i am all for alternative measures to regain health but this is a crook of you know what.

you should all be ashamed.

i will eat my shorts is james finds the cure, WHICH THERE WILL NEVER BE, BECAUSE LYME IS 20 THINGS ALONG WITH LYME ASLL OF WHICH CANNOT EVER EVER EVER BE TREATED WITH ONE PILL.

thinking cap time thinking cap time.

james being banned is entirely appropiate IMO and until what he says is actual info that can be applied i say leave it that way.

there are people on here pouring their hearts and souls into threads trying to help people only to have their words fall on dead ears while jamescase (and what an appropiate name THAT is) spouts the stupidest and most ridiculous info i have ever read.

if this is too harsh for you all SOB.

its my 2 cents and this is a free country.

i have been to hell and back and walk through hell every day with various lyme patients, devising treatment plans and reviewing options all of which do NOT include frontline collars, mystery substances, or anything else THE CASE suggests.

these threads are like TMZ TV, dominating a somewhat legitmate forum that is intended to help others get well. NOT disseminate BAD info.

lets all get our heads on right and remember where we came from, where were going, and how were going to get there.

derek
 
Posted by tickbattler (Member # 14873) on :
 
I am shocked and disappointed that James has been banned from lymenet. The fact that he is banned for being excited about his findings and giving us some hope for the future is absurd to me.

Of course I would love to know his findings, but I don't for a minute think that he "owes" us this information. He apparently spends most of his time doing tests on his own blood and studying the results under the microscope. Shouldn't he be rewarded for this (notwithstanding his remark about socialized medicine!)?

OK, the hints he gives may seem like teasing, but I don't think this is his intention and we really just need to get thicker skins. Can't we be happy he is doing this because it could benefit us eventually?

It may turn out to be nothing, but there is a small possibility that it could be something real. This is how discoveries are sometimes made...not always by big pharma!

So, now by banning him from lymenet, we shoot ourselves in the foot...we could have found out info perhaps after a provisional patent is filed (a relatively quick process from what I recall), but now we know nothing and if it turns out to be something big, we certainly won't find out about it on lymenet before anybody else.

I was going to ask what other sites he visits...so thank you Tracy9 for sharing the info. Guess I'll be spending a lot of time over there.

tickbattler
 
Posted by tickbattler (Member # 14873) on :
 
By the way, I don't think that he has found the magic bullet that can cure lyme alone overnight, but I am just open to the possibility that there is something yet undiscovered that could speed up the current "proven" lyme treatments.

That to me is the beauty of lymenet...there is so much information and we can read what we want and choose to comment on what we want. If we want to waste our time reading posts by someone who may be a bit unconventional or even half crazy...so be it...

That's why I guess I have a problem with him being banned.

tickbattler
 
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Keebler:
-

No cure can be found - or tested and documented - in one day. Rubbing something on an ear is not going to cure lyme by the next day.

-

True.

I think the lymenet banning was appropriate, as sad as it is to see anyone banned from lymenet.

James has been risking his own safety and life by his experimentation with any type of chemical that catches his day to day fancy. In these risky and self-destructive efforts, he is greatly encouraged by the attention he receives on lymenet.

In just the last two days that he posted, he experimented with two vet pesticides, 2.4 IM bicillin, augmentin, heparin, and a slew of other drugs that he takes daily in addition to his "mystery" new cure. Just check his multiple threads to see the large combination of chemicals, including multiple abx, he has used in the two days prior to his recent miracle cure.

In that way, he never had any findings on his new mystery chemical. Since he had taken bicilin, several pesticides, augmentin, heparin, and other drugs within one or two days of his latest "experimentation", he could never be sure what was responsible for what he "sees" in his blood microscopy.

If he is really seeing anything, which several lymies with experience in analyzing blood microscopy have disputed.

Sorry guys to break the bad news; there is no miracle cure that James discovered. Probably the heparin he injected that was responsible for any decoagulation he experienced.

This is not research; this is just sad and desperate experimentation for a difficult set of diseases. My best wishes to James, as always, that he finds a llmd and sticks with some treatment for a while.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I agree with derek and as I said in a previous post, one substance to kill bb, viruses, parasites, worms, fungus, and heaven only knows what else is just not common sense.


And whether we like it or not it does take yrs even for protocols that work well.

To dangle a "Cure" in front of people that are suffering for monetary gain just speaks volumes about that persons character and integrity.

I wish we did have a quick fix, but it's just not realistic.

Gael
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Well said, Vermont.
 
Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
Gael said:

"To dangle a "Cure" in front of people that are suffering for monetary gain just speaks volumes about that persons character and integrity."

I know James pretty well, we have spoken on the phone lots of times over the past year and a half.

He is not in any way, shape or form the person you and others are describing, though I do see how you could get that impression.

He is more like an excited little kid who just invented a great new Kool Aid flavor and can't wait to share it but doesn't want the bullies to steal it from him (I get it, no need to post a bunch stuff bashing the comparison; harmful stuff vs. Koolaid.)

Just trying to give you a glimpse at his character. He is very sick and he hates it. His sister and mother are also sick. He feels so desperate to be well that he combats his overwhelming feelings of helplessness and despair by trying to find hope in his experiments.

NONE of us have to try and replicate anything Jim does. MANY of us have chastised him for over a year on LymeChat, warned him, etc. It doesn't stop him.

When we don't hear from him, we call him to make sure he is okay. He is a young guy who lives alone and has nothing in his life but his desperate search for a cure.

I personally have never held any interest or seen any value in Jim's experiments, but I will sit on the phone and listen to him excitedly tell me he has found the answer, over and over again.

If that's all I can do for a fellow Lymie, and it helps, then I'll do it. It means the WORLD to him.

Maybe with him banned from here, which deeply hurt him and left him feeling very alone, some of you can come to LymeChat and talk with him.

I also have his personal email address and phone number, and I'm sure he would be glad to have a few phone buddies. I'll ask him first, but email me if you're interested.

I just wanted to clear up the speculations about his character. Ego? He has none. Money hungry? I can't tell you how many times I've heard him say he wished he had some money to help people on Lyme Chat when they are having a rough time.

If Jim ever does hit upon a cure, I can almost guarantee you once he got his bills caught up, every penny would go to helping other Lymies.

So please, please don't bash the character of this very kind and sweet soul when you don't even know him.
 
Posted by lymestop (Member # 18787) on :
 
All i can say is that from the time I got here ... I still get frustrated in how personal the posts can become and how there always seems to be a battle of

who is right and who is wrong?

Which one are you? The true answer is we all are lost in this world of lyme and all the complexities and the lack of answers.

We are all in the same boat but with many personalities and opinions and ways of doing things.

Not one is any better than the other...

I admire everyone for what they try and how they share and how they care....

Can anyone really say someone has been hurt by someone elses opinion.??

We are all grown adults and can choose what we want.. lets stop pointing fingers and stop putting others down.... please.

We have been through enough..

I feel this probably will fall on deaf ears.. But I try anyone..
Sometimes anyway.
 
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
 
no one is bashing character tracy, i am though calling out the means in which he and others like him go about touting their ridiculous and unsafe means in which they attempt to gain wellness.

im sure he is a great guy. i dont doubt or dispute that. again, i take issue with the way in which he is going about dispersing this misinformation.

if he wants to inject himself with gasoline that is his perogative.

is it NOT however his perogative to post misinformation that is not only erroneous but undisputedly dangerous.

he is a good man. great. keep the "great" ideas to himself until they are proven.

btw- ANY "THING" SEEN UNDER THE SCOPE CANNOT BE REASONABLY IDENTIFED OR QUANTIFIED.

EVEN if it could, its HIS blood and does not pertain to ANYONE ELSE!!!

darkfield love blood microscopy is somewhat accurate in diagnosing possible ailments. to say it is the way to track and gauge progress is RIDICULOUS.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, for james to be able to identify what the "invaders, blebs, hatchlings, etc" ARE.... OR how they respond to the lethal chemicals he is injesting.

if you are friends w james, tracy, thats fine.

i do not take issue with him, you, or anyone else.

i am here to spread reason and advice to sick desperate people and they do not need to be pumped full of false hopes full of false claims of ridiculous treatment measures that will never go farther than james case body.

IF this was such a cure, which it is not, he would have told someone by now, assuredly.

every day unfortunately there is a new cure, from wormwood to lauricidin to frontline to heparin to augmentin to bicillin on and on it goes.

ever hear of the story of the boy who cried wolf?

lets make sure we keep common sense our primary tool when striving to make sense of all of the info here on LN.

derek
 
Posted by tickbattler (Member # 14873) on :
 
Well said Tracy!

By the way, I tried to get on lymefriends and can't even register because I can't get a photo on there. It apparently is required.

I have tried to insert one but it isn't working. I am not too good at this stuff. Any ideas on who to contact for this?

I also sent you an e-mail about the lymechat password. Do I need to get on lymefriends first for that?

Thanks,

tickbattler
 
Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
Tick,
YOu can upload any photo, it doesn't have to be of you. Any photo you have on your computer or that you download onto it, just click the little box, it will say browse, go to "pictures" in your computer, and pick one.

You can get to Lyme Chat directly from the link posted, I'll pm you the password.
 
Posted by 2roads (Member # 4409) on :
 
I don't know if the mediators send out a warning with explanation before they ban someone, but if they don't, I think it would be a good idea.


It could avoid this by helping the person understand what's wrong with his/her thread, make a change and not repeat the offense.


Maybe that's a breech of free speech, but it's better than this outcome.


This feels like the time when my "so called friend" told me to go away and leave myself alone. She had never approached me and said I was too negative and to please work on it for the sake of our friendship. SHE GAME ME NO OPTIONS, ROOM TO IMPROVE THROUGH UNDERSTANDING, JUST LEFT ME.


Food for thought without knowing the details.


2roads
 


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