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Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
last nite i saw smething black on my tummy..well it was 3/4 in and 11/4 out...i tried to get whatever it was out but i couldnt coz i couldnt fin the tweeeezers ( tried with my nails) then when i found the twweezers i still couldnt get it.it has somehow got embedded with the skin.

so i went to the er today and the er doc there must have beeen a reeaal quack..he looked at it no more than like ten seconds...maybe 5 and said u got it out..

.i said well what that black spot there then..o thats a scab,,, ( no way im thinking..) then i said u have to take it out its still in there and he said


YOU R NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE THEM OUT IF THEY ARE IN THERE LIKE THAT.

..IS THAT A CROCK OR WHAT?HE ACKOWLEDED AT LEAST IT WAS A TICK..

.AND GAVE ME SOME TX FOR IT...BUT ISNT THAT AGAINST THE LAW WHAT HE DID OR MALPRACTICE TO NOT TAKE THAT TIC OUT??

FEEDBACK PLEASE HOW CAN I REPORT THIS QUACK???
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Did he remove it ? I don't see that he did.

Do you have a magnifying glass ? I would go to another doctor. If that is a tick, and embedded, yes, it needs to be removed. But, it's probably better that that doctor did not do it as he may have done in incorrectly.

If you can get a magnifying glass and take a closer look, and if is a tick, before another doctor starts to remove, be sure what method he will use.

You may want to download instructions from the FDA site - link to the left of this page in the margins.


You said he gave you Tx. Do you mean doxycyline ?


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Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Ditto what Keebler said.
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
OK YES HE GAVE ME DOX a blue pill....i dont have a magnifying glass but how will this affect me if i already have lyme? i was rx in 2001....

ok i willl go to another doc then.thanks.he did look thru the magnifying glass but it is completely embedded in to the skin..

..last nite i tried to get it out when it was half in half out...but i couldnt
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
he did say it was a tick
 
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
1 dose of doxy cannot possibly protect you from Lyme> Do you have an LLMD?
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
WHAT KIND OF TICK?? DID HE SAY/KNOW?
"...u got it out."?
It's hard to understand if the ER Doc got it out properly, or YOU got it out.

A black spot usually means the head might still be in there. It won't heal quickly (properly) w/o getting that out, BUT there's little danger of any Lyme bacteria present increasing in # as they come from the tick's gut.

An upsate N.Y. doc, even an ER intern, finding an IMBEDDED DEER TICK on you & taking it out & giving you only 1 dose of doxy is UNEXCUSEABLE.
You need to be on 4 weeks of abx, typ 100 doxy b.i.d. or 500mg amoxy t.i.d. for a "high risk bite".

Have an MD, RN or vet get that head out. Your PCP is the 1st choice as he/she can write a 'script'.
 
Posted by hurtingramma (Member # 7770) on :
 
Kete-tracker - you can delete the double post by going to the pencil/paper icon on top of the post
 
Posted by merrygirl (Member # 12041) on :
 
If its just the head try warm compressing it several times a day until you see a doc.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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nolyme:

Did you get that tick out yet ? Hope so. Please let us know.


Do not try to mess with you yourself it it is embeded. You need it to be cut out at this point. That can be done in an office visit.


Try to take a photo or two - with good clarity - before it is removed.


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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
What a quack!!! Report him!!! Take pictures of the embedded tick NOW!!! Put a newspaper date up to the tick for at least one photo!!!

Prove that you "got treatment" at the ER and they LEFT IT IN!!!

One pill will do nothing!!! You could have additional coinfections with this bite.

I would complain to the roof tops until you get some ACTION!!! [cussing] [rant] [shake]
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
nomolyme- I assume it's all out now & healing? [Roll Eyes]
If it WAS a smaller black or black/red tick,
you NEED 4 weeks of doxy. Better yet, 6. Even if you were diagnosed & treated in 2001, you can get Lyme all over again, not to mention the possibility of co-infections. [tsk]

ER docs are often worthless. Go see your regular doc & explain how it was imbedded for a couple days. Get some meds. [Mad] Period.

(Thanx, 'hurtingrama'! [Wink] )
 
Posted by nenet (Member # 13174) on :
 
nomolyme, where are you with this?

Please let us know how you are doing now. We're concerned!
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by nenet:
nomolyme, where are you with this?

Please let us know how you are doing now. We're concerned!

DITTO!!
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
my pc was down soawy..ok i have lyme from a few years back and sufffering from that .

.this i need alike a hole in the head u no? i will go to another doc tomo..promise to get that thing out..

.it is a little black dot at this point...i do not have a primary but im seeing a lld april 3 in nyc...

i obviously cant wait to get t he tick out until then..

.so ima have to go to urgent care...ill go tomo promise.....i will keep u posted at least now docs will beleivbe me when i say i have lyme disease!!!
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
no the er doc was an idiot.

..he dint even try to take it out..he said i took it out the nite b4 but i dint!!!!

then he said that i should leave it in coz thats what they ( i guess by they he means the medical community) are doing now!! what a jerk i i did reportt him to the

adminstrator...

i was out of pain meds and was in alot of pain that nite.

.and he said that if god came down to him and told him to give me pain meds he would nt do it.!!.


im like o u r above god now?? what a big A"i said just until to tide me over until april 3. i have appoint to see lld doc then and he said that/..

he sent me home with tyl not even extra str!!!omg!!!
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
[QB] What a quack!!! Report him!!! Take pictures of the embedded tick NOW!!! Put a newspaper date up to the tick for at least one photo!!!

Prove that you "got treatment" at the ER and they LEFT IT IN!!!

Got that photo yet?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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And remember that if that tick is still in there it will need to be excised - cut out - not just pulled. They can easily cut it out in a doctor's office.


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Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
ok thanks keeb and too too..but does that mean i am infected all over again and have to start from scratch? the tick is stilll in there...im gonna go to a doc tomo well a np is tha

t ok? i mean are they just as goood?

tootoo i could report him for leaving that in me? the tick? ok get back please
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
ok thanks keeb and too too..but does that mean i am infected all over again and have to start from scratch? the tick is stilll in there...im gonna go to a doc tomo well a np is tha

t ok? i mean are they just as goood?

tootoo i could report him for leaving that in me? the tick? ok get back please
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Relax, not all ticks are infected. However, it could be. Follow guidelines from the LDA.

http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/


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Yes, the doctor was out of line and incompetent. However, I doubt any criticism you may make about the doctor will hold much water as it's now already five days later and you still have the tick. Anyone handing such a complaint would say that if it were urgent to you, it would have been addressed sooner.


You would need to document much - such as not being able to get in to see another doctor earlier, etc. - but if the tick is tested and comes back positive, that is important. But, since all tick tests are not accurate, you will still need to be assessed by a very good LLMD.


good luck.


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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Nomolyme, I'm with Tutu - get some photos of the tick imbedded tick head with a current newspaper showing the date AND...... I'd be filing a written complaint with the hospital and the State Medical Board. And I might just send copies to the AMA, the CDC, and anybody else I can think of who might pay attention.

This is EXACTLY the kind of situation where I wish more folks would put together a little homeopathic `tick bite kit' to keep on hand..... there are just too many times when you can't get proper medical care in a timely manner. Anything that might offer an increased level of protection in these situations just makes sense to me.

I'll bump up the thread about it since it's tick season in some places.....

Here's the link in case it gets buried too fast.........

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/78831?
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
ok i went to a nurse pract yesterday..she said to wait two weeks if it didnt come out by itslef then to call her and she will take it out...


she said that most of it was out..when i was trying to get it out myself i got little slivers out...like one at a time ..the thing was not engorged with blood.....thsi whole thing is moot coz i have chronic lyme n e way no?

n e way..i went to another er and that doc took the rest out....

it was in for 5 days..im worried.

im so upset. w docs and one np and they alll give differnt treatments...should i take the tc still..im so confused..
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
i meant to say 3 docs and one np and i got differnt treatments like one doc said take tx for 10 days the other said for one day and the other didnt give me ne tx at all...
 
Posted by nomolyme (Member # 18639) on :
 
lyme toot too i dint take the photo......i just cant fight n e more im giving up,....im tired of fighting and arguing etc just to live...and be pain free.
 


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