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Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
 
Does anyone else here get hallucinations? Sometimes at night, just when I'm falling asleep I wake up and see a spider coming down on me. It looks so real for abou tthirty seconds then slowly disappears. I've had this for years, and it started BEFORE I started treatment.

It used to always be spiders but now sometimes I see a black ball just going down my wall, or the other night it looked like a bunch of gnats just in one spot flying by my ceiling. I feel like I'm going crazy!
 
Posted by kellyjk4 (Member # 19731) on :
 
Hi Lisa,

I don't have much experience yet, so I can't offer any brilliant advice. [Roll Eyes]

When I used to take Ambien, though, I had a lot of problems like what you describe.

I know it's freaky - when you find out what it is, let us know!
 
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
My son used to have it.I did have hallucinations...BUT to me was my mother that would show up and would talk to me.

I was numb from head to toe( coma situation) and could not move my mouth to speak and could not move my legs and hands...I used to stay for hrs like 2-3 hrs like that .I could hear people talking and could not even raise my voice.My mouth would not obey as I was numb.

I was seeing angels and my mother all the time smiling at me.
My son was seeing monsters and it was scary for him to go to his room and sleep.

That was the time that I felt parts of the day numb until I was numb 24/7 chocking to death!!!


Do not worry keep treating infection...it would pass....The bugs are playing the tricks on your brain ...IS not the real you.You need suport when you feel like this and you can come here and share.

I know it sucks you are not crazy .My son suffered more from them as he got treatment 1 year later than me.I was able to take high dosages of cleansers and did HULDA CLARCK protocoll to keep my sanity as NOBODY WAS HELPING ME.

THEY WERE SAYING I HAVE A MIGRANE. A$$XXXX doctors....and ignorant would lock you up if you say so( I never talked about it ) I knew I had somthing but did not KNOW THE NAME is NEUROBORRELIOSIS ..that makes you like that with the rest of other bugs in the brain ..TREAT it and talk to your LLMD only.

I do not have it anymore.SINCE I put lyme in remission ...it went away !!!!
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Just when you are falling asleep - these can be "hypnogogic" hallucinations and, actually, they are rather normal at that magic moment just before sleep. But, some can be rather distressing and unwanted.


Good point about some drugs causing this.


It can also be a sign of liver stress - excess toxins in the body will cause the NMDA neuro receptors to party too much. Magnesium and liver support can help calm that down.


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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Hypnagogic hallucinations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogic_hallucinations

Hypnagogia

Excerpt:

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Sensory phenomena

Transition to and from sleep may be attended by a wide variety of sensory experiences.


These can occur in any modality, individually or combined, and range from the vague and barely perceptible to vivid hallucinations. [22]

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Sounds

Hypnagogic imagery is often auditory or has an auditory component.

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- Full article at the link above - it contains many more great explanations for sensory stuff.

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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Oh, and here's a caution NOT to mention it to medical personnel.

I had bouts of this many years ago and my ND/ acupuncturist told me what these were and that it's pretty common for even "normal" people and can come in waves.


However, when I was getting the electrodes glued on before a sleep study, the tech and I were just chatting (or so I thought. "Just chatting" NEVER happens within the walls of a hospital.)


I had mentioned my amazement and wonder at this as I had just learned the term and had experienced some pretty cool hypnagogic stuff at that time as well as some lucid dreaming.


Well, he wrote in my file that I had hallucinations. I flunked the sleep study, in part due to the noisy environment so the MD who reviewed my file diagnosed me just from that as schizophrenic.


That dx, not from talking to me, but only from suffering form insomnia, being startled by sudden noises and the tech's note about hallucinations and my eyes "flashing" lights when I tried to fall asleep.


THAT report caused my reception among doctors to dive even further than it had been as a "CFS" patient (lyme was not tested for another year after that).


Be very careful what you say to anyone who has your chart nearby. It is impossible to get anything really corrected - and just who are they going to believe, anyway?


It took years before I found a GP to see me as I really am, understanding that I had been mis-dx.

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[ 04-29-2009, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
 
Alv, is your Mom in Heaven? Maybe it was her? I'm glad your son's hallucination's have stopped.

Keebler, I checked out that link, and it does sound right about hypnagogic hallucinations. I wnder why though, they go through such stages. I get them every night for a week then they disappear for months. I wonder if has to do with toxins in my brain.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Here are a couple more links. Apparently, this can also happen during the day. Be sure to check any drugs you are taking and see if this might be a side-effect, too.


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http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/44221.htm

Sleep Disorders: Hypnagogic Hallucinations

Excerpt:
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All of these phenomena are not that uncommon in the general population and, in many instances, are considered normal.

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http://neurology.health-cares.net/hypnagogic-hallucination.php

What is hypnagogic hallucination?


Hypnagogic hallucination is episodes of seeing and hearing things as one is falling asleep. These dreams can be frightening and can often cause a sudden jerk and arousal just before sleep onset. For example, you may see yourself falling and awaken with a sudden jerk, just before impact.


As the subject drifts off to sleep, he/she moves into a state that combines the environment, of which the subject is still partially aware, with a dream-like state of sleep, in which he might see people and hear them talking. The experiences are often frightening.


* Sleep deprivation, irregular sleep schedules, and medications all can predispose to occurrences of this phenomenon.

* Hypnagogic hallucinations can occur at sleep onset, either during daytime sleep episodes or at night.


They are usually quite vivid, and often involve vision. The visual hallucinations usually consist of simple forms - colored circles or parts of objects - that are constant or changing in size.
People may also see the image of an animal or a person, and are more often in color. Auditory hallucinations are also common, but other senses are seldom involved.


Hypnagogic hallucinations are dreams that intrude on wakefulness, which can cause visual, auditory, or touchable sensations.


They occur between waking and sleeping, usually at the onset of sleep, and can also occur about 30 seconds after a cataleptic attack. Hypnagogic hallucinations are a feature of narcolepsy.

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Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
 
Why can't I see chocolate kisses, or puppy dogs, or Brad Pitt, why the spiders????
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Yeah, I could go for George Clooney! I don't know why the creepy crawly stuff, either.

Sometimes stuff we see on TV will come back in images during sleep. I hate it when that happens. I don't watch violence, but it's hard not to be flashed with some of the violent commercials for upcoming shows.


Still, liver support, B-vitamins, fish oil, magnesium, calcium, zinc . . . all are excellent to help calm down these events.


Yoga, Tai Chi or Qi Gong and gentle music in the evening all might help the brain settle down, too.

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Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
I had something today, I don't know that I'd call it hallucination--maybe it's something like lucid dreaming that you mentioned.

I know I wasn't asleep--The Wiggles were on, and I was listening to my kids fussing at each other, and i started thinking about the colors of a sunset (huh?).

I was thinking about the light being pink with yellowish background--not mixed into orange, but separate in a way--and I was actually seeing this.

Then the "vision" shifted that I was sitting on the highway by the Giant grocery store and watching a tornado coming out of the sunset toward me.

It scared the daylights out of me because it seemed really real, even though I knew I was awake and lying on my couch.

It's been a weird day.
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
are you on med amandine, sp ??

this caused my husband terrible hallucinations; he was seeing 2 little boys sitting on our basement stairs, and talking to them all night long.

i was writing down some of the wierd things he was saying and he withheld this had been going on for 2 weeks to him!!

he immediately cut back on 1 of these pills and it stopped these horrible events for him.

parkinson's meds are notorious for this!
 
Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
 
Because of yeast probs I have been off all abx for a week now. Just taking iron and vit c.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Starfall,

I think you had a bit of a hypnotic event. When we relax enough, often we can experience hypnosis and have mini-movies that we seem to be in.

Then something brings us out of it. It happens to everyone now and then. More so when watching certain television shows for some.

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Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
 
Here's a link to prior discussions on this. http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=050780
 
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
Yes LISAS My mom is in heaven and I could not be there with her the last year when she felt sick and died within a year.THE GUILT of not beeing there eat me alive.

THAT TRIGGERED LYME and coinfections to activate before the next bite....I already have been assymtomatic and started showing symtoms of depresion strongly after that event in almost 1 year after she died -I was a gonner too.

YES every time the bacteria was flaring all of them ( bart mostly and ricketsia ) the brain would become worst from the toxic releases of the bugs. Yes it shows liver and brain is toxic and in my case IT WAS!!
 


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