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Posted by lalyme (Member # 8964) on :
 
I have been on ABX for three years for Lyme and Co. Have yeast overgrowth. And tested positively for Candida in a big way. Do I stop abx...what to do?
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
here's some good info for you [Smile]

yeast & candida Lymetoo/TUTU's links:
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Candida diet and elimination:
Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms
Yeast Infection, The Silent Epidemic from dentist, docdave

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CANDIDA,,,WHAT LLMDS ARE MISSING by Bugg, .7.7.08..excellent!

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Posted by coltman (Member # 21272) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lalyme:
Have yeast overgrowth. And tested positively for Candida in a big way.

What tests are this? What are your numbers?
 
Posted by lalyme (Member # 8964) on :
 
Coltman,

The tests are IgG and IgA. IgG is 1.72

and the IGM is 1.00.

Both are flagged in the tests results which say that the norm is less tha .89
 
Posted by gemofnj (Member # 15551) on :
 
Hi lalyme!

Your PM mailbox is full! So..

You do not have to stop taking abx, but I would ask your doctor for a RX to get it under control. He may suggest several rounds of Diflucan or Nystatin or something even stronger.

I am surprised he did not give you something after review of your test results.

In addition, are some good suggestions that really work for keeping candida at bay. This may seem like a lot of info, but its just a few steps.

First and foremost: DIET - no carbs, sugar all promote yeast

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

that includes, mayo, vinegar, pickles, alcohol, coleslaw and anything FERMENTED or that has mold, such as cheese, mushrooms. all FEED yeast.

only yogurts without sugar or aspartame and sugar are ok. keifer without sugar is also recommended.

NEXT: high culture/high strain refrigerated probiotics are extremely necessary in combating yeast are a must!

some great over the counter brands are: Megaflora from Megafoods, Renew Life Ultimate Flora Critical Care, and NSI 15-35. you can get them in a good health food store.

probiotics do not kill yeast, but just replace the good flora bacteria that abx is killing along with the bad bacteria (lyme & co's)

remember to compare the number of live cultures and strains before purchase. the more cultures/strains the better. minimum of 20,000 live cultures/8 strains is a good start.

THIRD: in addition to having additional flora, you may want to start taking an herbal antifungal such as fungal defense or oregamax 2-4 times a day as a preventative.

other natural herbs that KILL yeast are: olive leaf, coconut oil, grape fruit seed extract, garlic, pau d'arc, etc. personally, the most effective was oregano.

FOURTH: detoxing is also helpful in keeping candida at bay. some good suggestions would be steam, sauna, exercise (sweating if possible), lemon water, added fiber, warm bath soaks, etc.

If you still get candida, or you want to be extra proactive, you could also add enzymes in addition to probiotics and natural antifungals:

Candizyme is an enzyme blend, and my LLMD suggested I take this. I have also used Digest Gold by Enzymedica.

For VAGINAL: yeast guard is a great vaginal aid which is a blend of vinegar and water. it helps to neutralize the ph in the vaginal area. this is found at target or pharmacies. or, the good old fashioned way, small amount of vinegar mixed with 2 cups of water.

Yeast starts on the tongue! dipping your toothbrush in bleach and rinsing well with water each time you use it will kill any live yeast organisms left on your brush. you can actually REINFECT with yeast that lives on your toothbrush!!

one more thing, birth control can REALLY increase the candida issue too.

do consult with your doctor.

good reading:

http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/BurrGuide2008.pdf

http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/candidadiet.html

http://www.candida-cure-recipes.com/candida-cleansing.html

good luck!
 
Posted by coltman (Member # 21272) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lalyme:
Coltman,

The tests are IgG and IgA. IgG is 1.72

and the IGM is 1.00.

Both are flagged in the tests results which say that the norm is less tha .89

I dunno I have same numbers for Candida and I didnt even take abx
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Coltman.. Many of us had yeast before treatment began. Lyme suppresses the immune system and makes it easy for yeast to take over.

Here is a good comprehensive link on diet and a 5 step approach to knocking it out.

I would definitely ask your dr for Nystatin and Diflucan. I took Nystatin TABLETS everyday during treatment for Lyme.

( the liquid contains sugar and the powder is nasty )

DIET is one of the most important aspects of keeping yeast under control.

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html
 
Posted by lalyme (Member # 8964) on :
 
Thank you all so much!!! Just bought Oregano Oil and started Diflucan. Any recs for best place to get nystatin?
 


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