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Posted by brite7 (Member # 16245) on :
 
I have terrible complications from getting the mercury removed from my teeth. Suffering tremendously. Had to remove the composites replaced them with temps. One denitst suggests removing the temps and replacing with Porcelain inlay/onlay. Is porcelain a safe material? Im very confused.

Thank you for your help,
Brite
 
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
Oh gosh.. I watched a video of Hulda Clark lately and she literally apologized for asking people to replace their mercury fillings.

She said she ws wrong and that all the materials out there that replace the mercury that are white are just as bad????

I do not know if she meant porcelain .. too..

But she said to just pull the teeth.....and let them make bridges of some sort??

Not sure what that material would be either.

Good question for sure...!!!
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Bridges are made of materials that are not that great, either.
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Brite,

How much have you researched this thus far? Has your dentist walked you through this? He should.

From your dentist: some sort of name of the inlay, a company, a laboratory where they are made so you can have exact details of contents.

Then, what glues or cements will be used - contents?

How long should these last?

Your dentist should give you all this information or at least supplier name so that you can ask more questions.

I don't know if Hal Huggins is still around but you can google his name. He has authored books on this subject. See if you can ask his opinion. If not, might there be others in his book (or articles) to which you can turn?

Is there an organization of dentistry suggested for those with MCS (multiple chemical sensitivies), for example?

Can you do a test on the glues or cements before the inlay would be done? I'm not sure how this would be done but there is one acupuncturist in my town who has worked with a local dentist much like Dr. Huggins -testing patients (in advance of procedure) for their ability to tolerate dental materials.

I don't have all the answers - just more questions. It's so good that you are asking before you do anything.

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If your area has a support group for those with MCS, find out about the dentists and solutions they've discovered. Not sure where in the SW you live, but there is one town in Ariz. with many MCS patients.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Google: "Hal Huggins" - and also: "Hal Huggins" porcelain


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http://ciin.org

The Chemical Injury Information Network (CIIN) is a support and advocacy organization dealing with Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS).

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Call for more information: (406) 547-2255

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Ask them, too:

http://www.porphyriafoundation.com/

The American Porphyria Foundation


Houston, TX

Toll free: 866-APF-3635
 - Telephone: 713-266-9617

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Details about porphyria are included because most patients with MCS and many patients with lyme also have liver stress that can lead to excess porphyrins, a sort of chronic or secondary porphyria. It is best to avoid chemicals that can trigger porphyria.

From a group for those with a chronic stealth infection similar to lyme -- Cpn.

http://www.cpnhelp.org/secondaryporphyria

Secondary Porphyria: what you should know before starting a CAP (combined antibiotic protocol)

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You might want to check that out for suggestions for how to keep porphyrins down - as well as look at the KPU protocol - and incorporate around your dental procedures. Beta Carotene is one of the very best protectors.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=071168

Topic: PORPHYRIA LINKS - Re: Cytochrome P-450 liver detox pathway
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Posted by brite7 (Member # 16245) on :
 
Thanks so much Keebler [Smile] You are the best! I havent even though about asking about the glues and cement, etc.

Here is what the dentist had emailed me as the components in the porcelain. I do need to find out the name of the inlay and lab, etc.

I wanted to copy and paste the info the dentsit emailed me but it's a pic and dont know how to do that.
 
Posted by brite7 (Member # 16245) on :
 
Thanks for the info Srpingshowers. I have to say afer all the suffering I have been through with my teeth, in my particualr circumstance I regret having the amalgams remvoved. But that's my own personal experience. I didnt have any teeth problems prior to this.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Sorting through this, here is what I would suggest:

* First search for Hal Huggins to see what he says/said. Call anyone you can who has authored with him. You never know when someone knows someone who works in your area.

* Google: Klinghardt "porcelain inlays"

[If you have recently had the mercury removed, search for Klinghardt's metal detox protocol. However, it sounds like you did that some time ago.]

* Call both the MCS group and the Porphyria Foundation for lists of dentist near you

* LymeNet archives search --

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search

Search for posts by GiGi (use her member number 259)

Then Search in the subject line of the medical forum for posts: porcelain, dental; teeth; fillings, etc.

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I don't recall anything about porcelain in the past couple years but you should read through some of those first and then you can email GiGi.

She does not use her PM function here but often invites questions about dental and heavy metals / detox issues:

* You can email GiGi at [email protected]

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Posted by Myco (Member # 9536) on :
 
I think Porcelain is fairly safe as are bridges. Implants no.

I agree with above. I am really ****ed that I had my amalgams removed. I followed someone's advice on this board and a certain holistic lyme dr. I will not name and think it was the worse move I ever made. They were properly removed but I think drilling into the amalgams, even with a dam is outright dangerous and not worth the exposure. I had 8 removed in two sessions and the IV C afterward. Dumb.

Many have cracked since then and I have had them replaced with more of the same.

My advice on amalgam removal: Don't do it.

Antibiotics is the only treatment that helped me.
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
Very goog points by Keebler to test ingredients tested for compatability with you.

Had 2 people that were "allergic" to the glues / cements etc. Both were treated with NAET and were then not affected.
 
Posted by kidsatlast (Member # 4308) on :
 
Try this website for a list of "clean" dental materials: http://www.radicalmedicine.com/clean_dental_material_list.html

It would be best to find a holisitc dentist. Or you could try taking this list to a regualr dentist, but he or she might just be unsure how to proceed and not convinced of the science of it.
 
Posted by coltman (Member # 21272) on :
 
Hmm I read zirconium is one of the best materials for crowns bio -compatible and strong
 
Posted by brite7 (Member # 16245) on :
 
I'm so sorry for your pain (((cottonbrain))) and (((Myco))) I very much emapthize with you. All 9 of my teeth hurt [Frown]

Thanks for everyone's info. Kisatlast great link!!!

Really great how the NAET worked, massman.
 


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