I have dizziness that 'comes and goes'...well it came quite suddenly this morning, I feel like I'm on a very rocky boat, basically another debilitating sx. Also no hunger (not like me)!
Can nausea and dizziness correlate with..a coinfection (only treating Lyme right now)...or during ovulation???
I feel like I'm going to pass out (never have) and am also experiencing increased swallowing probs, etc.
Feeling sorry for myself I can't even *think* of stepping outside to enjoy the spectacular weather. Sigh.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Sounds like Mal de Embarquement. The inner ear really does take a ride with lyme. Weather changes with barometric pressure also can cause sudden shifts in symptoms.
The "no hunger" is because the inner ear it telling your stomach: "don't even think about it."
GINGER CAPSULES are best but a stop gap measure can be making a ginger tea from your kitichen spice jar of ginger.
Are you taking minocycline, azithromycin or Biaxin? Those can affect the inner ear. For reasons explained in detail in the tread below, LIVER SUPPORT is essential to help protect your ears.
Vestibular symptoms are very common with lyme but not all vestibular symptoms are from lyme.
Although the not eating much could be a part of the puzzle - low blood sugar can cause vertigo - your LLMD may want you to see LL ear specialist. If so, be sure they are LL as some will want to give steroids and steroids can make lyme much worse and harder to treat.
There is one kind of vertigo that has a simple and effective office treatment that in non-invasive and is drug-free: BPV (benign positional vertigo). More in about that here:
Fairly good day for me yesterday. Not so today. No nausea or dizziness. headache, pressure and yes,
Increased swallowing symptoms. I laid down and cannot even nap because of breathing/swallowing.
Could be the co-infections btm. Bart is known to cause nausea and gastro stuff. It really is hard to know what is casuing what unless you get relief form symptoms when targeting a specific co-infection.
I never get relief, so I never know ....you seem to be pretty much in the same boat.......gotta find us some oars that work!
Sorry that your waters are a stormy sea today.
Ff
Posted by btmb03 (Member # 18394) on :
Thank you Keebler, yes, am presently trying fresh, grated ginger with lemon juice, salt/sugar + asafoetida (sp?).
I've had the dizziness in varying degrees over the years and haven't had the chance to do much reading about it so thx so much for those links...I have my work cut out for me!
Posted by btmb03 (Member # 18394) on :
Well so much for your "good" day yesterday feelfit - sorry it's so frustrating for you too.
I suppose only time will tell when hitting the co's and maybe (or maybe not) these sx will improve.
In the meantime my brain feels like I'm a bubble-head!! Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- I had a folder for asafoetida on my desktop but can't find it (organization is not my forte). I recall that being of tremendous help in overall support when I've used that in the past.
Good idea remembering to add some salt and lemon - lemon will help stop nausea and lemon and a little sea salt can help with electrolytes. If you have agave, that provides a bit more even ride for blood sugar and (before everyone jumps on the sweetness) a touch of natural sweetness can be very helpful at a time of inner ear distress. -
Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
Keebler,
Is there any relationship with dizziness and teeth movement? My husband has been dizzy..he does not have lyme and is healty..no abx or any meds prior...
But he is now having his teeth straigtened with "invisaline"
His bite was off and he just wanted to do it...for looks and bite issues.
As this is the only change he can think of, just wondering if this could be a connection. He did have impacted wax buildup which was removed..but did not help yet.
His md gave him steroids...which put me in a panic. He is not open to anything I am doing naturally...unfortunately. He is a total "MD is God" believer. Steroids did nothing.
He will be sent to specialists I believe soon. IT is impacting his life.
Would like others opinions on what to do for a non lymie with dizziness!
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- lightparfait,
Sounds like he will dismiss my suggestions but if his MD will consider any of this, it could help. PubMed has lots of good medical abstracts on most of my suggestions, he can look it all up for verification.
Does your husband have bruxism (grinding of teeth in his sleep)? THAT will cause vertigo. If so, magnesium is the number one rescue method for that.
If he wears the "invisaline" at night, which I'm sure is part of the protocol, he may be chewing on it, causing more stress and pressure on the TMJ.
Other than that, I remember having braces in 6-8 grades and my mouth hurt so much. I was rather brain foggy even then but don't know if that can contribute to vertigo.
He should do some research on that, though.
* DECREASE INFLAMMATION. Curcurmin is tops. Magnesium, too. Ginger also decreases inflammation, that is partly how it helps to reduce vertigo.
* CRANIAL-SACRAL therapy might be excellent for him. www.upledger.com
* BIOFEEDBACK for PAIN diagnosis may be covered by insurance. Great stress reducing skills there.
Biofeedback would probably not be covered for TMJ and may not for vertigo. But it is often covered by pain and those other areas benefit from learning the skills. Find someone who knows about all this, though, not just a pain therapist. The orthodontist may have a referral but it should be done through his MD for insurance to cover it.
* FELDENKRAIS TECHNIQUE so that he can learn how to best hold his head, neck, spine, etc.
Assessing ergonomics - how his work, home, hobby tools fit him and he best maintains good posture. A new pillow?
Or Yoga. A Feldenikrais practitioner is best as they can assess alignment more so than most yoga instructors. A good P.T. can be of help but Feldenkrais is so much better if he can do that. It's just basic - but very intricate - body mechanics.
With the jaw position changing and the teeth moving - it is essential to have training in how to carry the body during these changes. -
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Posted by Skyler (Member # 11549) on :
One Day this just started happening to me and it lasted several months. It was constant vertigo. But this was before i knew I had lyme or got treatment.
Now, on occasion this happens to me, but its never nearly as bad or does it last as long.
I hope you start feeling better. Having this symptom can be so problematic. Stay strong and optimistic.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- lightparfait,
I forgot the very first questions that should be asked. You need not answer; it's more of a personal check-list:
Does your husband consume even a trace of aspartame (Nutrasweet/Equal)? Check gums, mints, beverages, toothpaste.
MSG ? Google for all the names it hides under.
Is he dehydrated? If he consumes alcohol, while doing so, does he consume at least that much water and - preferably - more? LIke one glass of water for every glass of beer, more for hard liquor.
Is his diet balanced regarding glycemic index? Low blood sugar can cause vertigo. Does he eat enough brightly colored vegetables and fruits? These can be amazing to help correct imbalance that contributes to many of the causes of vertigo.
Is he around chemicals? Even scented products can cause vertigo. Vinyl, especially, as it continues to off gas. Be sure to air out the car before getting it and frequently along every ride.
And, all this assumes he's already consulted his doctor and orthodontist. If not, I hope he will. Vertigo should be assessed as it can be connected with the heart or the brain as well as the ears. -
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Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
I had to find this post.
I have had vertigo issues in the past, but not much lately.
Well, today we drove in town, and I got carsick on the way there.
Once we reached our destination and I got out of the car, I was fine.
On the way home I got sick again, but when I got out of the car this time I went into a vertigo/nausea sensation.
The last thing I felt like doing was eating, because I thought for sure I was going to toss my cookies, but I forced myself to eat.
After I go t my son off to school, I laid down and slept for about an hour.
I still feel slightly out of kilter, and I have a headache. Nothing is really helping it.
I've also been dealing with TMJ for the past week or so. Even the chiropractor hasn't been able to get things back in alignment.
Actually, she said nothing even seems to be out of alignment; she can't feel any clicking or anything, even though I'm hearing clicking and am having a LOT of pain.
Ugh, thank God I see the LLMD this week.
Posted by btmb03 (Member # 18394) on :
Starfall, do let us know what your LLMD says. I'm sorry you had to go through this. Especially when it comes on all of a sudden or worsens 'out of nowhere'. Feel better soon!
Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
Thanks for your insights Keebler...I have passed the info onto him...it takes him awhile to absorb new thoughts in medical treatments. These things are radical to him. This is the problem, to accept new thought patterns for those who are brilliant!
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