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Posted by marriedchick (Member # 20214) on :
 
Hi Everyone -

I've been sick with lyme and candida for 12 years. I've ALWAYS suspected that I might have adrenal fatigue but I've gotten two different tests...one from my current mainstream Endochrinologist and one from my old naturopath. They both said I don't have it.


I really wonder though. Is it possible these tests are not accurate? It seems like when I've tried adrenal supplements in the past, they give me a boost...


I do get overstimulated from them sometimes though but they definitely help my overall energy...getting me off the couch to where I can function a little again.


Should I listen to my doctors and finally settle in my mind that I don't have adrenal fatigue?? I just don't understand how it's possible that I can be this ill after all these years and my adrenals are just fine!


Thanks.
Carolyn
 
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
 
they need to be tested through saliva in one day 4x through a reputable lab (aeron, neuroscience, etc)

derek
 
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
 
bovine adrenal supp/
 
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
I found that weak adrenals were a big part of my lyme disease complex.

When I avoid sugar, caffeine, alcohol, white flour products, take vitamin C, licorice root, other adrenal restoratives, avoid stress.....AND especially consume nettles....that I become more energetic, have less asthma and allergies, less PMS, less brain fog...etc. The list goes on.

For more info on the health benefits of nettles, see the link below. One doesn't necessarily need a test for adrenal weakness. This type of diet is good for anyone and will improve your health whether or not you have a chronic illness.

Try it and see what results you get. You can't go wrong. At this point I am trying to do these things along with antibiotics.I am doing very well....however, it does take persistence and time so don't be discouraged.

Some people think it's the yeast being killed off by this type of diet. I think that may have something to do with it but I feel very excited about the evidence that shows how much our adrenal glands are involved and how they are strengthened by diet, stress reduction, laughing...surrounding yourself as much as you can with a soothing atmosphere. This includes colors and music that soothe you.

http://lymesentinel.blogspot.com/2009/10/health-benefits-of-stinging-nettle.html
 
Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daystar1952:
I found that weak adrenals were a big part of my lyme disease complex.

When I avoid sugar, caffeine, alcohol, white flour products, take vitamin C, licorice root, other adrenal restoratives, avoid stress.....AND especially consume nettles....that I become more energetic, have less asthma and allergies, less PMS, less brain fog...etc. The list goes on.

daystar - Don't know where you're from, but in the southern US, I believe that we refer to nettles as "poke salad". Yes, they are edible and we cooked and ate them as greens.
 
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
I'm from the Northeast.......Wow......that's what Polk Salad is??? I had no idea. What about that song Polk Salad Annie? :-)
 
Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daystar1952:
I'm from the Northeast.......Wow......that's what Polk Salad is??? I had no idea. What about that song Polk Salad Annie? :-)

Yes, it's POKE Salad and the song made it famous outside of The South (although most people still have no idea what it is).

BTW daystar - If a person has hypercoagulation, they might want to be careful eating / drinking nettle products (POKE SALAD) of any kind, as it has a tendency to 'slow' the blood (another Southern slang term).

Got any more tea, drink or food alternatives for adrenal fatigue? I'm also trying to work on this, but have to be careful. Collecting suggestions from all.
 
Posted by Renee K (Member # 21220) on :
 
Conventional docs do not recognize adrenal fatigue

They recognize adrenal failure. It doesn't dawn on them that there are stages of disease, that the adrenals can weaken before shutting down completely.

I take a b complex, b5 500 mg daily and extra C to support my remaining adrenal gland, had one removed for a tumor in 2006 which I feel let the Lyme go wild....

I also take a herbal formulation to support the adrenals that my LLMD prescribes.

Frequent small meals with protein at every meal, no concentrated carbs, sugar, caffeine which all stress the adrenal glands by messing with insulin levels

Bed by 10 pm, try to get as much uninterrupted sleep as possible.
 
Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
You sound as if you've really been through the mill, Renee. Thanks for the excellent suggestions! Let's all hope 2010 brings much better health to us all.
 
Posted by CherylSue (Member # 13077) on :
 
My Lyme doctor had me try Isocort, and that made a difference for me. My adrenals did need help. I have been working full time for a year and a half now. Prior to that I was on disablity for two years and very sick.
 
Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CherylSue:
My Lyme doctor had me try Isocort, and that made a difference for me. My adrenals did need help. I have been working full time for a year and a half now. Prior to that I was on disablity for two years and very sick.

CherylSue - I'm rather ignorant in these matters, but isn't Isocort some type of cortisol derivative?
 
Posted by marriedchick (Member # 20214) on :
 
Well, my current lyme doctor believes what my Endo says, that there is no adrenal fatigue. I had an alternative-type doctor before tell me it's dangerous to take the adrenal extracts if you don't need it. Is this true? Is it possible I could harm myself???

I want to try to take it again to try to help myself. I'm so weak and just get even more wiped out when I try to take any drugs for lyme or yeast.
 
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ping:

...we refer to nettles as "poke salad". Yes, they are edible and we cooked and ate them as greens.

Ping, I think pokeweed and nettles are two different plants.

Stinging nettle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinging_nettle

Pokeweed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed


Carol
 
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
I also use licorice root to sweeten my tea. This root is suppose to support the adrenals too. I guess you have to be a bit careful if you have high blood pressure tho. Siberian Ginseng is also supposed to help
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
Sorry ! [bonk] Too complicated !

[ 12-24-2009, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: massman ]
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
best decision i ever made was naturally supporting my adrenals.

sleep is good, energy is good, i love it
 
Posted by Lymeorsomething (Member # 16359) on :
 
Chick, check your thyroid too. [Smile] The adrenals are fairly resilient but the thyroid not so much. Hypothyroidism can drop cortisol levels too so rule out both.

Isocort is good and fairly standardized as far as dosing. Each tablet is the approx equivalent of 2.5 mgs of Cortef.

Adrenal glandulars can be helpful but it's hard to know what you're getting and what components are dosed at...

Herbs may be a good place to start...rhodiola and other adaptogens...

I took several months of cortisol (cortef) @ 20 mgs per day with little to no results so often it's the thyroid or a combination of hormones.

There were some posts on Wilson's temperature syndrome recently....may be worth a look...
 
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
My integrative doc said Prime One adrenal drops are really the best and only thing that works. Russian olympians are given this supplement to rebuild adrenals. She said Cortef is useless as it doesn't build them.

I will mentioned the doc sells Prime One in the office. They do not sell Rx Cortef.
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
[bow] "only thing that works." [Wink]
 


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