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Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
Why dont they do more IV treatments besides the obvious
IV Vitamin C
IV Peroxide
IV Nutrition
IV Chelation (edta)

?
Others?

Why do they not try to put things like Other
natural antibiotics to use via IV?

Like GSE and OLE and TRO and or other stuff that might help kill these bugs?

Curious about this.

Am I the only person who wonders this.. Esp if you have a port or picc line and wonder why not more natural supplements might work well that way?

I dont know.? what am i missing?
 
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
"Am I the only person who wonders this.."

Most likely you are.

[Big Grin]

Tonight I was wondering why I keep running out of dish washer liquid so quickly...

And later I was wondering what I could eat that looked like ice cream, smelled like ice cream and tasted like it.. but wasn't full of sugar.

Never did I wonder about why we weren't able to get IV vitamins.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
Oh >> hey> I am sure I am not the only one...

I found this about now how some are doing IV MMS

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-intervenous.htm
 
Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
One day I was wondering about this. Then I looked at my keyboard and noticed the '$$$$' signs on the 4 key, that's when I stopped wondering.
 
Posted by kitty9309 (Member # 19945) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by springshowers:
Oh >> hey> I am sure I am not the only one...

I found this about now how some are doing IV MMS

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-intervenous.htm

Really bad idea. See here for a thorough discussion:


http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=570&hilit=jim+humble
 
Posted by kitty9309 (Member # 19945) on :
 
Here too:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=871&p=7798&hilit=jim+humble#p7798
 
Posted by radfaraf (Member # 11909) on :
 
Natural doesn't make if automatically safe. Unless there are studies showing something via IV is safe and effective no doctor who wants to keep their license is going to attempt it and I wouldn't blame them.
 
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
 
Good question Spring. Maybe it's because IV's are not natural anyways? More likely because there is more financial incentive in studying and developing new RX drugs. But if you think of it, many of our medications originated from a natural source (PCN and Nystatin come to mind).
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
I've heard of some place that does colloidal silver as an IV. I don't think it cured anyone, though.

I did hydrogen peroxide IVs & it didn't help. I also got IVs from the Fibromyalgia & Fatigue Center. They put all kinds of stuff in IVs but they didn't help me.

Maybe it's just not that effective to do IVs for something that can hide in various parts of the body such as the bone marrow, brain, in between cells, etc...?
 
Posted by tosho (Member # 10191) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pryorka:
One day I was wondering about this. Then I looked at my keyboard and noticed the '$$$$' signs on the 4 key, that's when I stopped wondering.

[lol]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Not everything can be used as an IV. And not all natural methods will adequately treat lyme or other tick-borne infections.

Some LL NDs use IV Garlic. It's been use in China for a very long time. But, they use it as part of a program that varies according to each patient. IV Garlic can be caustic to some people's veins so it's not as easy as it sounds.

Most MDs are not educated in methods other than pharmaceutical. It's not so easy as just doing this or that, years of study has to go into this and it has to be something very specific to address spirochetal infection while keeping the patient safe.

Not all natural methods are effective to the degree required with tick-borne infections. And not all natural methods are all that easy on a patient, either.

Find a good, experienced ILADS-educated LL ND (naturopathic doctor). That's the only way you will have someone both educated and also licensed to treat with these methods.

In all fairness, you cannot expect an MD to treat with a style requiring four years of training that is very different from the four years in medical school. The use of natural medicine is very complex and it is not so black and white.

Many NDs use some pharmaceuticals, just as many MDs incorporate some nutritional supplements &/or herb formulas. Good medicine is what works best - and best administered by those with extensive training in the methods they use.

Sometimes, too, a gentle approach can be as effective as a IV. Working smarter when harder doesn't work sort of thing. Knowing all about the spirochete - all the stages, forms, cycles & biofilm - is the first order of business. That step is often overlooked.
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Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
I've done IV Glutathione. Did not notice any difference though.

I am now, however, craving ice cream.
 
Posted by ninjaphire (Member # 18234) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tincup:
"Am I the only person who wonders this.."
Tonight I was wondering why I keep running out of dish washer liquid so quickly...

And later I was wondering what I could eat that looked like ice cream, smelled like ice cream and tasted like it.. but wasn't full of sugar.

Pshaw. Such simple problems.

1. Reuse dishes. [Wink]
2. Sugar-free Ice Cream!
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
Many "natural" treatments go through our digestive systems first before getting further into the body.

This can change the structure and function of what is being used. To put something directly into the blood is extremely different and possibly may do more harm than good, or do nothing.
 


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