I am curious about his double intracellular protocol and any success with it.
I have read and also heard from another doctor that he loads up on heavy Doxy and Biaxin together, evn though they target the same form of the Lyme germ. He is obviously very well respected and I am wondering about success with that, dosage, etc...
Please PM me if you don't want to post in the thread.
Thanks
Posted by CD57 (Member # 11749) on :
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Posted by psr1 (Member # 22957) on :
Not doing that with me...Bicillin and Plaquenil and later Flagyl
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
He did that combo with me. His protocols work great.
Posted by migs (Member # 16496) on :
sixgoofykids - were you just on that alone or with a bunch of other stuff?
And did he mention the science behind it? Is it for Lyme or Mycoplasma?
Thanks a lot.
Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
But I always remember none of them put you into remission w/o the need for Abx.
quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids: He did that combo with me. His protocols work great.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
With a bunch of other stuff. No, I don't know the science behind it, but I always felt best on those protocols vs others he had me on. I told myself that if I came back from Germany and didn't feel better, I wanted to go back on Mepron/Biaxin/mino. I felt best on those.
Seekhelp is correct (I don't always write my complete history with every post ). I quit Dr. H's treatment and went to Germany for an alternative treatment, which put me in remission. Once I stopped abx, I went downhill fast, but I had to stop them for the Germany treatment.
I say his protocols are great, because they are. They really go after the bugs in various combos. I have heard him say in a talk that most people relapse who were treated on abx alone (his figure was 99%), so he's trying other ways to "finish" treatment after the hardcore abx to beat the bugs down. That's essentially what I did, but finished in Germany instead of with him.
Posted by LightAtTheEnd (Member # 24065) on :
I am not a patient of Dr. H., but my doctor just put me on that combination. Too early to say anything about results.
Posted by Marcie (Member # 10070) on :
Six- You said you felt better on Mepron, Bixian, and mino. Is Mino an intracellular? Just wondering bec. I am on it now and it is giving me a hard time with herxing?
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Marcie, I'm not sure, I've been off abx since 2008, so I've forgotten a lot of that kind of thing. A lot of people have a hard time on mino because it reaches the cognitive symptoms. It was one of my favorite meds .... but we are all different. The meds I hated the most were Zith and Tindamax, with Amoxicillin coming in a close third.
Posted by ghook (Member # 13102) on :
In his presentations he explains that ALL the co-infections are intracellular plus of course the Lyme itself has an intracellular form. So putting a patient on only one intracellular drug is not "going to cut it". You need at least 2 intracellular drugs on board to get the load down, when you're dealing with so many intracellular infections. The intracellulars are Macrolides, Tetracyclines (Doxy, Mino), Tygacil, Flagyl / Tinda, Rifampin (one of the strongest for getting into the cell), Fluroquinolones and Ketek. (Although Dr, H in NY won't prescribe Ketek.) Hope that helps!
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). I quit Dr. H's treatment and went to Germany for an alternative treatment, which put me in remission. Once I stopped abx, I went downhill fast, but I had to stop them for the Germany treatment.