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Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
i think i'm still having problems with thrush.

my tongue in the morning has a heavy white stringy film. later in the day it turns to a greyish color with a yellow film. if you drag your finger across it, it has a furry appearance.

i was on difulcan for weeks. then i tried the liquid nystatin which gave me diahhrea and didn't seem to help all that much.

i have got to get rid of this, but how?

there must be some natural cures.

i have used the natural toothpastes and mouthwashes but don't seem to see improvement.

listerine literally burns the heck out of my mouth.

and oh yes, can a dentist treat thrush?
 
Posted by sk8ter (Member # 8671) on :
 
I am dealing with this same issue. There must be something natural. God Bless
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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There are lots of options. DGL is the top one.

You might search "thrush" in the archives for past threads. There have been many. Here's that link:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search/search_forum/1
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Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
Plain yogurt might help.
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
From page 34 of Burrascano:

"MANAGING YEAST OVERGROWTH
Many patients with weakened defenses, such as from chronic illnesses, including Lyme Disease, develop an overgrowth of yeast. This begins in the mouth and then spreads to the intestinal tract. Therefore the primary line of defense is careful oral hygiene, replenishing the beneficial bacteria by daily intake of yogurt, Kefir, and/or acidophilus, and by following a strict low carbohydrate diet.

ORAL HYGEINE:

CLEANSING
Brush the teeth, tongue, gums, inner cheeks and palate first with toothpaste, then again for 30
seconds while holding an antiseptic mouthwash in the mouth Then, rinse by scrubbing while holding
plain water in the mouth.

TOOTHPASTE
Use ``AP-24'' toothpaste, sold by NuSkin Enterprises. Unlike conventional toothpastes that may contain alcohols, formaldehydes and abrasives, this product cleans in a unique way. It contains two ``surfactants'' (detergent-like cleansers) that are very effective without being harsh. This product is available in two forms- regular and whitening (both contain fluoride). Choose either one.

In addition, get from them their patented toothbrush that is designed to work with this toothpaste. It cleans better and is far gentler than regular or electric toothbrushes.
Order AP-24 products by calling 1-800-487-1000. The U.S. reference # is 9256681-R

MOUTHWASHES
Use an antiseptic mouthwash (Scope, Listerine, etc.), and brush the teeth, tongue, gums, cheeks and the roof of the mouth while holding the mouthwash in the mouth. Do this for 30 seconds, then rinse repeatedly with water.

For especially thick or resistant thrush, the most effective (and drastic) treatment, employed as a last resort, consists of using "Dakin's Solution" as a mouth rinse. Make this by mixing one teaspoon of household liquid bleach (Clorox) in four ounces of water. A small amount is held in the mouth while brushing, then spit out, and repeated until the thrush has cleared. This is usually a one-time treatment, but may have to be repeated every few weeks.

After using an antiseptic, it is necessary to immediately eat yogurt or chew an acidophilus capsule to replenish the beneficial flora in the mouth.

Because the germ count, both harmful and beneficial, will be artificially reduced after such a cleaning, and because yeasts are opportunists, the yeast infection can come back. By having the yogurt or acidophilus then, the yeast will be crowded out and a more normal oral flora will result."
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
My lyme doc had me follow the Burrascano procedure above, rinse with water, and then open a probiotic capsule and empty it onto my tongue.

I was to leave it there until it all dissolved. That can take an hour.

That puts the good flora back on the tongue.

It worked for me.
 
Posted by INEBG (Member # 27690) on :
 
I've had terrible problems with thrush, too. What worked best for me, in addition to ensuring that I take excellent probiotics, was using Bio-K. My chiropractor told me about it. It's a yogurt-shot with many more beneficial bacteria in it than regular yogurt or keifer. I let it sit in my mouth for awhile before swallowing it. That worked for me when nothing else, including abx, did.
 
Posted by Tammy N. (Member # 26835) on :
 
Keebler,

What is DGL? Can't recall.

Thank you.
 
Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :
 
Thieves oil - which is a clove and cinammon oil mixture. Couple drops in water, gargle for a minute, then swish and swallow. Do this 3 times a day.

Also, empty a capsule of acidophillus into your mouth, sip water, swish for as long as you can stand it, and swallow.

But I swear by thieves oil. It's a blend that you can only get at www.youngliving.com

http://www.youngliving.com/thieves-essential-oil/Thieves-Oil
 
Posted by hoot (Member # 19281) on :
 
gargle with a few drops of lugol's iodine diluted in water

swish and spit it out

(do not use if allergic to iodine)
 
Posted by snaps (Member # 25104) on :
 
ditto on the thieves. good suggestion!
 


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