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Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
 
Does anyone have experience or knowledge of the Paraclesus Clinic in Switzerland for Lyme/Parkinson's? How do they do with such patients?

I have a Swedish colleague, who's father is 69 and has had Parkinson's for 7 years. He wants to get evaluation and treatment for Lyme, etc., which was never diagnosed, but he did have a tick bite 15 years ago with a large rash for a long time.

Another colleague recommended that he go to the Paraclesus Clinic in Switzerland, which is well-known and works with Lyme.

However, I listened to a lecture that the director gave in CT on their treatment of Lyme. ANd they don't treat the infection(s) at all! They only work on the "milleau" or "terrain," with natural treatments.

I know that that really isn't sufficient at all! At least that is my feeling and understanding from having tried the natural route myself for years to no avail and watched other do the same.

In the lecture, he was saying that after 3 weeks intensive treatment, people are much better and back to work. And then they continue on in treatment for 2-3 years. That is rather a rosy picture, which doesn't correspond to reality in my experience. Esp without treating the infections!!

Any direct experience or knowledge of the clinic?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I have many concerns about this. I'd also like to know more about the specifics and the long-term follow ups.

I saw a similar question in another thread here about this clinic just yesterday and went to that author's web page.

While support and "terrain" is absolutely vital to address and, yes, all that can help people feel better - any doctor who treats any lyme patient also better be totally educated about the workings of the spirochete.

Spirochetes should not be ignored.

The article was far too much for me to take in and my attention span is just too short to follow.

There may be some things in that protocol that are worth a look - but I would NEVER, EVER advise anyone to just ignore spirochetes. Never. Ever.

And, it seem true (for now) that there is no cure for lyme but it's never good to ignore the nature of the spirochete.

Still, for a start, this might be worth a consideration for someone new to treatment -- but I'd ALSO get an ILADS-educated LLMD or LL ND's advice (or someone who is expert in understanding the borrelia spirochete and his exact strain and all coinfections) before actually embarking on any treatment.

I'd want to talk directly with the patients who reported success. I want to see them in person. That is usually not possible but, through their local lyme support group, it might be possible to have more detail about how these folks are doing - but I'd also want to know more about their case before treatment began.

If they are still doing fantastic, that sure could be good news.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Paraclesus Clinic in Switzerland:

http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/lyme-borreliose-and-its-biological-medicine-treatment/

Lyme Borreliose and its Biological Medicine Treatment
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/103440
 
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
 
Whew, that's what I thought. Thanks for the links.

While the mileu is important, of course, to expect that to take care of these infections, and after 15 or more years of infection, and having developed Parkinson's 7 years ago---completely ridiculous!

Wowee, that is massive ignorance IMO.
 


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